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[DTA]

1/2 a million tcs may not be an exageration there is an estimated 200000 in the uk alone.

According to the 2001 census there are 77,673 Cypriot-born people residing in the UK so it would be interesting to know how those making these ridiculous estimates arrive at their figures.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Cypriots

have a look at this: an estimated 130,000 (not including those born in the uk)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turks_in_t ... ed_Kingdom

I've had a look. It's garbage. I followed the link to here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/voices/multilingual/turkish.shtml

An estimated 100,000 Turkish nationals and 130,000 nationals of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus currently live in the UK.

Estimated by who? Where is the source? Cretin Ramadan?

According to the only reliable source that exists for these statistics, the offical UK Census, there are less than 78,000 Cypriot-born residents of the UK, and most of these will not be Turkish Cypriot.

BTW, cretinous grandiose self-appointed TC community leaders aren't alone in over-inflating their numbers, to make themselves sound more important and politically influential. The National Federation of Cypriots claims there are 300,000 UK Cypriots.

It's simply bullshit.

Even the museum of london put the figures of TCs in the uk at over 100,000 and this does not include those born in the uk.

by the way the british census does not have a clarification for TCs. We either have to tick Turkish or other so it is hardly a reliable source.

http://wapedia.mobi/en/British_Turks

this backs up my claim about us being refered to as other so the british census being flawed.

[YFred]

Then get the fuck out of tiny Cyprus ...

Since when has Cyprus been just greek?
If anybody needs to fuck off out of Cyprus, it is greeks like you, back to Lesbos island where you belong.

[DTA]

There are 60 Million Turks. Who cares if a few hundred thousand call themselves "TC"s. They are still just Turks. If we all stuck to that terminology, there will be no quibbling.

Dearest please get your facts right. There are 500 million Turkish speaking people on earth. Over 100 million in China alone.

Sorry I underestimated.

[Malapapa]

1/2 a million tcs may not be an exageration there is an estimated 200000 in the uk alone.

According to the 2001 census there are 77,673 Cypriot-born people residing in the UK so it would be interesting to know how those making these ridiculous estimates arrive at their figures.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Cypriots

have a look at this: an estimated 130,000 (not including those born in the uk)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turks_in_t ... ed_Kingdom

I've had a look. It's garbage. I followed the link to here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/voices/multilingual/turkish.shtml

An estimated 100,000 Turkish nationals and 130,000 nationals of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus currently live in the UK.

Estimated by who? Where is the source? Cretin Ramadan?

According to the only reliable source that exists for these statistics, the offical UK Census, there are less than 78,000 Cypriot-born residents of the UK, and most of these will not be Turkish Cypriot.

BTW, cretinous grandiose self-appointed TC community leaders aren't alone in over-inflating their numbers, to make themselves sound more important and politically influential. The National Federation of Cypriots claims there are 300,000 UK Cypriots.

It's simply bullshit.

Even the museum of london put the figures of TCs in the uk at over 100,000 and this does not include those born in the uk.

Christ almighty, will you stop flogging a dead horse?

http://www.museumoflondon.org.uk/Englis ... /1295/1283

There is an estimated community of 100,000 Turkish Cypriots in Britain,

And this number would certainly include TCs born in the UK, although many of these will be mixed background and/or consider themselves British.

But again that word 'estimated'. By who? The Museum would have asked TC community representatives to give them a figure. And they will have exaggerated hugely, as is clear from the actual figure provided in the census which includes all Cypriots of which TCs make only a minority.

[DTA]

1/2 a million tcs may not be an exageration there is an estimated 200000 in the uk alone.

According to the 2001 census there are 77,673 Cypriot-born people residing in the UK so it would be interesting to know how those making these ridiculous estimates arrive at their figures.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Cypriots

have a look at this: an estimated 130,000 (not including those born in the uk)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turks_in_t ... ed_Kingdom

I've had a look. It's garbage. I followed the link to here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/voices/multilingual/turkish.shtml

An estimated 100,000 Turkish nationals and 130,000 nationals of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus currently live in the UK.

Estimated by who? Where is the source? Cretin Ramadan?

According to the only reliable source that exists for these statistics, the offical UK Census, there are less than 78,000 Cypriot-born residents of the UK, and most of these will not be Turkish Cypriot.

BTW, cretinous grandiose self-appointed TC community leaders aren't alone in over-inflating their numbers, to make themselves sound more important and politically influential. The National Federation of Cypriots claims there are 300,000 UK Cypriots.

It's simply bullshit.

Even the museum of london put the figures of TCs in the uk at over 100,000 and this does not include those born in the uk.

by the way the british census does not have a clarification for TCs. We either have to tick Turkish or other so it is hardly a reliable source.

http://wapedia.mobi/en/British_Turks

this backs up my claim about us being refered to as other so the british census being flawed.

but if you look deeper in to census considering what I have told you then the figures are agin realistic if as I will admit not transparent.

[DTA]

1/2 a million tcs may not be an exageration there is an estimated 200000 in the uk alone.

According to the 2001 census there are 77,673 Cypriot-born people residing in the UK so it would be interesting to know how those making these ridiculous estimates arrive at their figures.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Cypriots

have a look at this: an estimated 130,000 (not including those born in the uk)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turks_in_t ... ed_Kingdom

I've had a look. It's garbage. I followed the link to here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/voices/multilingual/turkish.shtml

An estimated 100,000 Turkish nationals and 130,000 nationals of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus currently live in the UK.

Estimated by who? Where is the source? Cretin Ramadan?

According to the only reliable source that exists for these statistics, the offical UK Census, there are less than 78,000 Cypriot-born residents of the UK, and most of these will not be Turkish Cypriot.

BTW, cretinous grandiose self-appointed TC community leaders aren't alone in over-inflating their numbers, to make themselves sound more important and politically influential. The National Federation of Cypriots claims there are 300,000 UK Cypriots.

It's simply bullshit.

Even the museum of london put the figures of TCs in the uk at over 100,000 and this does not include those born in the uk.

Christ almighty, will you stop flogging a dead horse?

http://www.museumoflondon.org.uk/Englis ... /1295/1283

There is an estimated community of 100,000 Turkish Cypriots in Britain,

And this number would certainly include TCs born in the UK, although many of these will be mixed background and/or consider themselves British.

But again that word 'estimated'. By who? The Museum would have asked TC community representatives to give them a figure. And they will have exaggerated hugely, as is clear from the actual figure provided in the census which includes all Cypriots of which TCs make only a minority.

you just posted a link that backs up what I said and your claim of exageration is at best conjecture

[Malapapa]

1/2 a million tcs may not be an exageration there is an estimated 200000 in the uk alone.

According to the 2001 census there are 77,673 Cypriot-born people residing in the UK so it would be interesting to know how those making these ridiculous estimates arrive at their figures.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Cypriots

have a look at this: an estimated 130,000 (not including those born in the uk)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turks_in_t ... ed_Kingdom

I've had a look. It's garbage. I followed the link to here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/voices/multilingual/turkish.shtml

An estimated 100,000 Turkish nationals and 130,000 nationals of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus currently live in the UK.

Estimated by who? Where is the source? Cretin Ramadan?

According to the only reliable source that exists for these statistics, the offical UK Census, there are less than 78,000 Cypriot-born residents of the UK, and most of these will not be Turkish Cypriot.

BTW, cretinous grandiose self-appointed TC community leaders aren't alone in over-inflating their numbers, to make themselves sound more important and politically influential. The National Federation of Cypriots claims there are 300,000 UK Cypriots.

It's simply bullshit.

Even the museum of london put the figures of TCs in the uk at over 100,000 and this does not include those born in the uk.

Christ almighty, will you stop flogging a dead horse?

http://www.museumoflondon.org.uk/Englis ... /1295/1283

There is an estimated community of 100,000 Turkish Cypriots in Britain,

And this number would certainly include TCs born in the UK, although many of these will be mixed background and/or consider themselves British.

But again that word 'estimated'. By who? The Museum would have asked TC community representatives to give them a figure. And they will have exaggerated hugely, as is clear from the actual figure provided in the census which includes all Cypriots of which TCs make only a minority.

you just posted a link that backs up what I said and your claim of exageration is at best conjecture

I posted it to show your source material, from the Museum itself, and to show the word 'estimated'.

The UK census is not conjecture, it's not an estimate, it's fact.

And if you genuinely can't see that these numbers the TC's bandy around are way, way off the mark then you're as delusional as the so-called community leaders who made them up in the first place. But I don't think you are delusional. I think you don't have enough self-worth to admit that maybe you got it wrong.

[Malapapa]

Here are some more details from the UK census on Cypriot-born people which may be of interest.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/u ... cyprus.stm

[DTA]

1/2 a million tcs may not be an exageration there is an estimated 200000 in the uk alone.

According to the 2001 census there are 77,673 Cypriot-born people residing in the UK so it would be interesting to know how those making these ridiculous estimates arrive at their figures.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Cypriots

have a look at this: an estimated 130,000 (not including those born in the uk)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turks_in_t ... ed_Kingdom

I've had a look. It's garbage. I followed the link to here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/voices/multilingual/turkish.shtml

An estimated 100,000 Turkish nationals and 130,000 nationals of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus currently live in the UK.

Estimated by who? Where is the source? Cretin Ramadan?

According to the only reliable source that exists for these statistics, the offical UK Census, there are less than 78,000 Cypriot-born residents of the UK, and most of these will not be Turkish Cypriot.

BTW, cretinous grandiose self-appointed TC community leaders aren't alone in over-inflating their numbers, to make themselves sound more important and politically influential. The National Federation of Cypriots claims there are 300,000 UK Cypriots.

It's simply bullshit.

Even the museum of london put the figures of TCs in the uk at over 100,000 and this does not include those born in the uk.

Christ almighty, will you stop flogging a dead horse?

http://www.museumoflondon.org.uk/Englis ... /1295/1283

There is an estimated community of 100,000 Turkish Cypriots in Britain,

And this number would certainly include TCs born in the UK, although many of these will be mixed background and/or consider themselves British.

But again that word 'estimated'. By who? The Museum would have asked TC community representatives to give them a figure. And they will have exaggerated hugely, as is clear from the actual figure provided in the census which includes all Cypriots of which TCs make only a minority.

you just posted a link that backs up what I said and your claim of exageration is at best conjecture

I posted it to show your source material, from the Museum itself, and to show the word 'estimated'.

The UK census is not conjecture, it's not an estimate, it's fact.

And if you genuinely can't see that these numbers the TC's bandy around are way, way off the mark then you're as delusional as the so-called community leaders who made them up in the first place. But I don't think you are delusional. I think you don't have enough self-worth to admit that maybe you got it wrong.

how can you quote the uk census figures as accurate when I have already told you (and you can look it up yourself) there is no clasification for TC and in most cases Turks are lumped in to the 'other catorgory' have you lived in london I said to a friend of mine (non turk) that there was an estimated 500,000 turkic people living in the uk and he thought I was massively underestimating the population.

[DTA]

1/2 a million tcs may not be an exageration there is an estimated 200000 in the uk alone.

According to the 2001 census there are 77,673 Cypriot-born people residing in the UK so it would be interesting to know how those making these ridiculous estimates arrive at their figures.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Cypriots

have a look at this: an estimated 130,000 (not including those born in the uk)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turks_in_t ... ed_Kingdom

I've had a look. It's garbage. I followed the link to here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/voices/multilingual/turkish.shtml

An estimated 100,000 Turkish nationals and 130,000 nationals of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus currently live in the UK.

Estimated by who? Where is the source? Cretin Ramadan?

According to the only reliable source that exists for these statistics, the offical UK Census, there are less than 78,000 Cypriot-born residents of the UK, and most of these will not be Turkish Cypriot.

BTW, cretinous grandiose self-appointed TC community leaders aren't alone in over-inflating their numbers, to make themselves sound more important and politically influential. The National Federation of Cypriots claims there are 300,000 UK Cypriots.

It's simply bullshit.

Even the museum of london put the figures of TCs in the uk at over 100,000 and this does not include those born in the uk.

Christ almighty, will you stop flogging a dead horse?

http://www.museumoflondon.org.uk/Englis ... /1295/1283

There is an estimated community of 100,000 Turkish Cypriots in Britain,

And this number would certainly include TCs born in the UK, although many of these will be mixed background and/or consider themselves British.

But again that word 'estimated'. By who? The Museum would have asked TC community representatives to give them a figure. And they will have exaggerated hugely, as is clear from the actual figure provided in the census which includes all Cypriots of which TCs make only a minority.

you just posted a link that backs up what I said and your claim of exageration is at best conjecture

I posted it to show your source material, from the Museum itself, and to show the word 'estimated'.

The UK census is not conjecture, it's not an estimate, it's fact.

And if you genuinely can't see that these numbers the TC's bandy around are way, way off the mark then you're as delusional as the so-called community leaders who made them up in the first place. But I don't think you are delusional. I think you don't have enough self-worth to admit that maybe you got it wrong.

and as for admitting that I got it wrong, I have no problem with that, but the fact is that because the Turks of the uk are not included in the census in any meaningful way we have to look at other sources, and all the other sources have backed up the figures that I have presented.