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Postby sniper » Wed Apr 14, 2010 3:53 pm

Daniella wrote:to Eric : I tell you that apparently even if you go to Milan city streets not known anything strange. The problem is what happens in the shops and back room. :roll:
Unfortunately we do not yet have evidence of successful integration. The Chinese community is very closed, we know nothing of what happens between them. I have never seen such a funeral. Perhaps the Chinese never die?
To see the first signs of integration at best it will take another 2 or 3 generations. I'm sorry for this, because I have Chinese friends who are really good people, but when I try to go deeper about being immigrants they do not talk willingly.
I think they still do not care at all be accepted by us, have other things to think and to do, we'll find out in future.


maybe when you are trying to talk to them about their lives your approach might be a bit off, by calling them immigrants, maybe they are just uncomfortable with the terminology.

why would they need to be accepted?
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Postby Daniella » Wed Apr 14, 2010 4:07 pm

sniper wrote:
Daniella wrote:to Eric : I tell you that apparently even if you go to Milan city streets not known anything strange. The problem is what happens in the shops and back room. :roll:
Unfortunately we do not yet have evidence of successful integration. The Chinese community is very closed, we know nothing of what happens between them. I have never seen such a funeral. Perhaps the Chinese never die?
To see the first signs of integration at best it will take another 2 or 3 generations. I'm sorry for this, because I have Chinese friends who are really good people, but when I try to go deeper about being immigrants they do not talk willingly.
I think they still do not care at all be accepted by us, have other things to think and to do, we'll find out in future.


maybe when you are trying to talk to them about their lives your approach might be a bit off, by calling them immigrants, maybe they are just uncomfortable with the terminology.

why would they need to be accepted?



I do not call them immigrants, I call them by name ... :)
There is nothing wrong with the way I talk..
To answer to your last question:
Because at the end each immigrant want to be integrate in the host country. Life becomes easier, don't you think?
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Postby sniper » Wed Apr 14, 2010 4:21 pm

Daniella wrote:
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Daniella wrote:to Eric : I tell you that apparently even if you go to Milan city streets not known anything strange. The problem is what happens in the shops and back room. :roll:
Unfortunately we do not yet have evidence of successful integration. The Chinese community is very closed, we know nothing of what happens between them. I have never seen such a funeral. Perhaps the Chinese never die?
To see the first signs of integration at best it will take another 2 or 3 generations. I'm sorry for this, because I have Chinese friends who are really good people, but when I try to go deeper about being immigrants they do not talk willingly.
I think they still do not care at all be accepted by us, have other things to think and to do, we'll find out in future.


maybe when you are trying to talk to them about their lives your approach might be a bit off, by calling them immigrants, maybe they are just uncomfortable with the terminology.

why would they need to be accepted?



I do not call them immigrants, I call them by name ... :)
There is nothing wrong with the way I talk..
To answer to your last question:
Because at the end each immigrant want to be integrate in the host country. Life becomes easier, don't you think?


i meant that when you strike up conversation with them you want to talk about their lives as immigrants, i did not mean it to sound as that instead of calling them by name you say 'hey immigrant'. but always safer just to allow them to talk to you about it rather than probe. some immigrants do not want to integrate but rather keep to being surrounded by members of their own culture. for example when the greeks and cypriots went abroad they keep their communities around them, although they did integrate.

i just wanted to say that with the slightest mention of something that unknown to you is able to make someone close off. it does not mean that you have done something wrong, or that the other person is trying to push you aside, it just means that they are a little troubled and feel uncomfortable. maybe in their culture they are not too open about personal things and this to them is personal.
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Postby EricSeans » Wed Apr 14, 2010 4:26 pm

Daniella wrote:to Eric : I tell you that apparently even if you go to Milan city streets not known anything strange. The problem is what happens in the shops and back room. :roll:
Unfortunately we do not yet have evidence of successful integration. The Chinese community is very closed, we know nothing of what happens between them. I have never seen such a funeral. Perhaps the Chinese never die?
To see the first signs of integration at best it will take another 2 or 3 generations. I'm sorry for this, because I have Chinese friends who are really good people, but when I try to go deeper about being immigrants they do not talk willingly.
I think they still do not care at all be accepted by us, have other things to think and to do, we'll find out in future.


I know what you mean. I didn't see any Chinese in Milan the times I was there and it's clearly a major city compared to a medium-sized town. Mind you I wasn't looking out for them. By comparison, we have Chinese serving in the local police here. We all turn out in the streets for the Chinese New Year celebrations - and Mandarin is offered as a language to local Scots schoolkids. Looking at the future it would make sense for us to learn it. :) Have you been to China? I fully recommend it. Wherever you go you will become an instant celebrity/curiosity. Just don't mention the word "inscrutable". :wink:
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Postby Daniella » Wed Apr 14, 2010 4:28 pm

Ok sniper , I undestand now what you mean :wink: ( english is not my first language, I try to do the best :? )
thanks for explanation

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Re: china: too many men

Postby Get Real! » Wed Apr 14, 2010 5:26 pm

sniper wrote:With more than a billion people, China has too many men. According to the latest census, an average of 120 boys are born for every 100 girls, the greatest imbalance in the world.

And the point of this thread being what exactly? :? Lots of countries have more of one gender than the other but so what? :?
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Postby Wingnut » Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:50 am

its called an intelligent debate, something that happens very rarely on this forum
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Postby vaughanwilliams » Thu Apr 15, 2010 9:47 am

Wingnut wrote:yeah this is bad. the result of the commie's failed one-child policy. families tended to abort the girl cos they wanted boys.

expect to see a lot of rape, prostitution and misogyny in china in the next few years

also countries full of single angry men tend to go to war


That's what hydrogen bombs were invented for.
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