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by **Tim Drayton** » Thu Apr 15, 2010 2:42 pm

I think we are confusing the 'Island Line' on the Isle of Wight, which is operated as a regular passenger service as part of the British Rail network using old London underground stock, pictured below, with a volunteer-run enthusiast's steam line which also exists on the island.

by **cyprusgrump** » Thu Apr 15, 2010 2:49 pm

BOF wrote:yes IOW railway is made up of old LT underground stock and occasional steam engines...and yes mainly by volunteers, but being mainly a tourist location, does it need to run all year?
have you any idea how many private lines are running in the UK mainly run by volunteers? normally referred to as "heritage railways".
Several like North yorkshire moors and the dorset railway provide all year round services and are well used. especially when the weather closes roads the trains keep running.
others such as the north norfolk railway have just been rejoined to the main line..
A railway here would be a good thing _IF you can get cypriots to realise its potential.
But if its going to have electical propulsion it will defeat the object of less pollution if the power station uses fuel oil...

What is the alternative...?

Power from the wind turbines perhaps...?

Headlines:

"Passengers stranded between Larnaca and Nicosia when wind dropped"

"Train services cancelled due to lack of wind"

by **cyprusgrump** » Thu Apr 15, 2010 3:16 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:I think we are confusing the 'Island Line' on the Isle of Wight, which is operated as a regular passenger service as part of the British Rail network using old London underground stock, pictured below, with a volunteer-run enthusiast's steam line which also exists on the island.

But it was built in 1864 Tim and large parts of the network have been closed... the line is now only 8½ miles long and the rolling stock was built in 1938! :lol:

You can't seriously believe that it would be economically viable to build and run the same thing today...?

by **Tim Drayton** » Thu Apr 15, 2010 3:18 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:I think we are confusing the 'Island Line' on the Isle of Wight, which is operated as a regular passenger service as part of the British Rail network using old London underground stock, pictured below, with a volunteer-run enthusiast's steam line which also exists on the island.

But it was built in 1864 Tim and large parts of the network have been closed... the line is now only 8½ miles long and the rolling stock was built in 1938!

You can't seriously believe that it would be economically viable to build and run the same thing today...?

Probably not. I share your scepticism, but would still like to see a serious feasibility study and some solid figures. I find 300,000 euros a bit steep for that, though.

by **Oracle** » Thu Apr 15, 2010 3:26 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:I think we are confusing the 'Island Line' on the Isle of Wight, which is operated as a regular passenger service as part of the British Rail network using old London underground stock, pictured below, with a volunteer-run enthusiast's steam line which also exists on the island.

But it was built in 1864 Tim and large parts of the network have been closed... the line is now only 8½ miles long and the rolling stock was built in 1938!

You can't seriously believe that it would be economically viable to build and run the same thing today...?

Probably not. I share your scepticism, but would still like to see a serious feasibility study and some solid figures. I find 300,000 euros a bit steep for that, though.

Based on what?

by **Oracle** » Thu Apr 15, 2010 3:32 pm

This cost £400,000!

by **Tim Drayton** » Thu Apr 15, 2010 4:02 pm

Oracle wrote:This cost £400,000!

I know what you mean. I did some work for a while at a factory in Turkey owned by a large multinational. They got the consultancy then known as Arthur Anderson to come in and do a study so that they could reorganise the factory. These people spend two years doing their study for a cost of two million US dollars. In the end, they recommended combining two departments and moving one particular task from a third department to this new department. That was it. Anybody with an ounce of common sense could have made that same recommendation for free!