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[B25]

Cyprus needs an intergrated transport system.

Trains are part of that. They should also have a train shuttle between Larnaca / Paphos airports to the main towns of their respective locations as well. Infact i think that there should be a shuttle between Larnaca airport and the Protaras areas.

Why do you have to lay down miles of steel tracks when there is an excellent motorway network covering those routes already...?

Come on grump you can't be serious.

cars off roads, less pollution, safer away from the idiots, no traffic fines and no need for parking places.

[Tim Drayton]

Railway systems throughout the world carry millions of people and goods each day into large citys and towns. They are a very efficient way of keeping general traffic off of public roads.

1. Trains in Cyprus would never run on time, as the driver would be just having a coffee break rather than driving the train.

2. There would not be enough people using trains to make them economic.

3. The dual carriageways that run into the towns at the moment appear to be sufficient to cope with current traffic flows.

4. Locals would want to park their cars as near to the track as possible to avoid walking more than five metres to step on the train, thus causing chaos upon the platform.

A train system will therefore not work very well in Cyprus.

I did this study for 10% less than the budget .... where do I pick up the rest of the cash?

Anyone fancy a drink? I have just earned 270,000 Euros for coming up with the obvious.

The main reason trains would not work in Cyprus is the very spread out small population.

In the UK trains work very well within and between the large conurbations.

In Cyprus the main towns have smaller populations than some London suburbs, so it doesn't make sense.

I think we are talking more about something like a tram running on its own dedicated tracks rather than in the street. In Germany they have something similar between Dusseldorf and Duisburg. This is a very different 'animal' from a full-guage railway and such a system could well be viable.

If it is EU driven it will be a disaster...

The very fact that half the island will be excluded from the survey shows how ill thought out is it from the start...

Would I really drive from here (Pissouri) to Limassol to get on a 'tram' to Nicosia...? You'd just stay in the car...

Remember how tram lines were dug up in the UK (I remember many of them still being in the middle of the road when I was a kid) to be replaced by more flexible bus services...?

Exploit the (excellent) motorway network in Cyprus fist and provide a public transport system by buying a few coaches... Coach stations in Pafos (okay, and Polis), Limsaaol, Larnaca and Nicosia with mini-buses covering outlying villages and integrated with the main services...

There, I've just saved us all €300,000

On the other hand, many European countries invested in and developed thier tram networks, doing imaginative things like diverting lines into tunnels with underground stations in city centres and creating dedicated stretches of track. It is argued that, given certain passenger volumes, trams are more economical than buses.

[cyprusgrump]

Cyprus needs an intergrated transport system.

Trains are part of that. They should also have a train shuttle between Larnaca / Paphos airports to the main towns of their respective locations as well. Infact i think that there should be a shuttle between Larnaca airport and the Protaras areas.

Why do you have to lay down miles of steel tracks when there is an excellent motorway network covering those routes already...?

Come on grump you can't be serious.

cars off roads, less pollution, safer away from the idiots, no traffic fines and no need for parking places.

You still have to drive to the railway station and park there...

Unless you have a network of buses which go from the villages to the railway station...? In which case why not stay on the bus...?

[cyprusgrump]

Railway systems throughout the world carry millions of people and goods each day into large citys and towns. They are a very efficient way of keeping general traffic off of public roads.

1. Trains in Cyprus would never run on time, as the driver would be just having a coffee break rather than driving the train.

2. There would not be enough people using trains to make them economic.

3. The dual carriageways that run into the towns at the moment appear to be sufficient to cope with current traffic flows.

4. Locals would want to park their cars as near to the track as possible to avoid walking more than five metres to step on the train, thus causing chaos upon the platform.

A train system will therefore not work very well in Cyprus.

I did this study for 10% less than the budget .... where do I pick up the rest of the cash?

Anyone fancy a drink? I have just earned 270,000 Euros for coming up with the obvious.

The main reason trains would not work in Cyprus is the very spread out small population.

In the UK trains work very well within and between the large conurbations.

In Cyprus the main towns have smaller populations than some London suburbs, so it doesn't make sense.

I think we are talking more about something like a tram running on its own dedicated tracks rather than in the street. In Germany they have something similar between Dusseldorf and Duisburg. This is a very different 'animal' from a full-guage railway and such a system could well be viable.

If it is EU driven it will be a disaster...

The very fact that half the island will be excluded from the survey shows how ill thought out is it from the start...

Would I really drive from here (Pissouri) to Limassol to get on a 'tram' to Nicosia...? You'd just stay in the car...

Remember how tram lines were dug up in the UK (I remember many of them still being in the middle of the road when I was a kid) to be replaced by more flexible bus services...?

Exploit the (excellent) motorway network in Cyprus fist and provide a public transport system by buying a few coaches... Coach stations in Pafos (okay, and Polis), Limsaaol, Larnaca and Nicosia with mini-buses covering outlying villages and integrated with the main services...

There, I've just saved us all €300,000

On the other hand, many European countries invested in and developed thier tram networks, doing imaginative things like diverting lines into tunnels with underground stations in city centres and creating dedicated stretches of track. It is argued that, given certain passenger volumes, trams are more economical than buses.

And what are the populations of these 'many European countries'...?

Lets face it - there are less than a million of us here - building a railway infrastructure for so few people doesn't make any sense at all...

[Gasman]

I cannot see Cypriots using trains (not unless the train will stop outside their house to collect them and drop them at the door of their destination). They won't use carparks if they are more than 10 yards from where they want to go. If they parked their car in the middle of the road they'd get a taxi to take them to the kerb.

The buses stop running unbelievably early. If there was real interest in getting people out of their cars, they could extend the operating times of the buses.

Mind you - if they really clamped down on the use of mobile phones whilst driving, maybe that would drive Cypriots onto the trains - t'would be the only way they could continue to travel and talk at the same time!

[EricSeans]

"We do not want any of your remnants of Colonial Rule in Pafos, so we are pleased to be excluded from the network Smile."

But at least they made sure the trains ran on time.

[CBBB]

"We do not want any of your remnants of Colonial Rule in Pafos, so we are pleased to be excluded from the network Smile."

But at least they made sure the trains ran on time.

I think you will find it was the fascist dictator Mussolini that got the trains to run on time.

[Oracle]

It's strange how most of the recent arrival Brits condemn the notion of railways in Cyprus whereas most of the GCs are in favour.

Could it be a throw-back of how badly the trains are run in GB?

As for Cyprus, I am tormented to find out not only have the Turks stolen the last engine to run in Cyprus, but they have also destroyed the old tracks which ran from Nicosia to Famagusta.

The nasty unappreciative Mongol invaders!

[BOF]

dwarling your brit bashing is becoming tiresome ... you asked how many brits to form your opinion? how do you know whose a recent arrival???
GCs in favour of a railway well theres only less than 700,000 here. how many of those did you ask?
the poulation of uk is 66 million so the railway has greater pressure on it in GB. it isnt as good as it used to be..but look at how long it takes to drive anywhere -
The indian railways carry vastly more people still and thats based on the System built by those imperial colonials you always bang on about (including the bloody scots).
Anyway your all wrong. the EU will cough up for the feasability study not Cyprus, then after much humming and harring a couple of oiks will produce the study that says its not feasible and it wont happen.. and the 300,000 will be gone - somewhere..

Oracle where are the tracks that are left in the ROC then ?
you wouldnt want the last engine left anyway, probably built by those colonials!

[apc2010]

Old track was nicosia to famagasta