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[Get Real!]

Isn’t it time we reconsidered Cyprus’ entry into the EU?

In the six years that we’ve joined the EU, all I’ve witnessed as a Cypriot citizen is a major fall in the quality of life Cypriots once enjoyed!

We’ve had a surge of foreigners gaining entry into the country which has led to a huge unemployment level by Cyprus standards, and a massive increase in crime including the introduction of crimes that were unheard of before!

On top of that our government is being pushed to legalize gay marriages, establish drug centers for junkies, the underworld has gained strength, and in the last five years gambling has taken biblical proportions on the island with a betting shop sprouting every 200m! Where exactly are we heading?

For whatever its worth, EU entry has also made Cyprus a very expensive holiday option that can no longer compete with other non-EU Mediterranean destinations.

Politically, entry into the EU has been a total failure as it has not upheld international law pertaining to the sovereignty and territorial integrity of UN-member Cyprus, and if anything it has encouraged Turkey to further cement her illegalities!

I can almost write a book about all the problems that have surfaced in the last five years but I’m going to keep this thread intro short and rather clattered due to lack of time.

Btw, on the plus side… the price of Scotch has come down by about 35%!

Does anyone else see a problem? Alarm bells ringing?


Regards, GR.

[Piratis]

Politically we are in a much stronger position now than what we have been before our EU entry. Only problem is that this government doesn't have the ability to utilize EU. Papadopoulos did a much better job in this, even though he was in power right after the referendum when everybody expected that we would be "punished" for our "no" vote.

Don't expect EU to magically make all the problems disappear, but don't underestimate the increased powers that our entry in EU offers to us.

About the problems that other EU citizens could create I think that this problems will be solved once the standards in certain EU countries of the former eastern block are raised. Of course being members of EU means that other EU citizens can come freely to Cyprus, but this is true the other way around, Cypriots being free to go to any other EU country.

Personally I think that the reforms that EU requires are mostly positive. Is the "betting shop" problem related with EU?

In overall I believe that Cyprus entry to EU is a positive thing. Cyprus is small and weak. We can not afford to be isolated.

[repulsewarrior]

if we move forward, away from the EU, it would require our supreme neutrality. that would necessitate our interlocutors to go beyond guarantors working as individual States, willing to work in unison without exception, regarding their interest (for our defense). without the right circumstances, like a Treaty of Defense between Turkey and Cyprus (at the theat of war with a common cause), this is more of wishful thinking.

indeed we have taken that road before to find how the workings of this combine is a deeper state. now our challenge is to accept the future by embracing the changes we must make toward it. futuristicly there is an end to famine, and there is peace in the middle east, mostly it depends on this region defining the meaning of the Principal, Bicommunality. what is it, if it is not greek/turk?; it is the State and the Nations, defining Identity, as an Individual and as well a Person. just as important is the definition of Bizonal, a geographic context which does not mean simply tearing something in two. think manifesto, and take it seriously for a second because i have had nothing better to do for about thirty years, ...then came the internet, the open gates, and now ps. the population of cyprus is 12 million. dear sir Real, check it out, cyprus, it's social-economy depends on the service we can provide to trading partners globally. beyondTurk/Greek, the Cypriot indentity must include the ability to grasp from many cultures the essentials which makes working within their context a sense of Universal expression. if we can facilitate the exchange of people from different cultures our importance will reflect the location we occupy geographically. thus why not many National Assemblies, where whether you are a Turk or a Greek or a Jew, you could run as a Maronite if you met their National Assembly's requirements. And no matter how many of these Communities exist there is one Sovereign State, representing the People as Individuals, each with an equal vote without distinction, as Cypriots. indeed maybe russians and the brits too, maybe bulgarians, what about Armenians. anyway, you get the idea...each with the ability to communicate in other languages, (or not); each with the responsibility to recognise the minorities amongst them and their special needs; this, beyond the status quo.

better we take the time to define ourselves, but the EU at its advent, now that we are members needs us to define them too...

[Oracle]

Let's change it, to suit us, when we are President!

[wyoming cowboy]

Being a nation today is more like being a city state in ancient
Greece, where a group of smaller parts joined together to create a larger entity.of similar culture values..ie the EU, NAFTA, Cyprus has no other choice but to be a part of this entity, The next 100-150 years will probably determine whether or not we can obtain this worldwide or destroy ourselves....Through the use of the internet, which could be viewed as a connection to all of humanity, all must progress....with so much technology and ease of destruction and mass destruction, the ones who resist will resist as if its a matter of life or death....Its easier to combine 3 similar entities into one then trying to combine 235 different entities into one....This is the wave of our future....like it or not

[miltiades]

I have always considered our entry into EU as the most politically important event in the history of our island.
I believe that Cyprus is no longer just a small island on its own but an island that now has the European credentials shared by all other European nations. True that some developments that have taken place are not in line with the traditional Cypriot way of life. GR mentioned crime on the increase , this may be true as well as the increase in the cost of living but we can not blame everything on our membership to the EU . Strong government is required to take the drastic actions , supported by all the people not just the KOMMA , in order to tackle effectively the rise in crime .
We too have a long way to go before maturity dictates that certain aspects of our political affiliations and expressions are outdated , ridiculously non European and grotesque in every sense of the word. This continuing bullshit , Cyprus made , that a football club for crying out loud is either LEFT or RIGHT , a village coffee shop too , and many other establishments that are characterised as either LEFT or RIGHT. Such pure scatological politics belong in the underdeveloped parts of Africa amongst primitive tribes.

The European Union membership has lit the light that future generations will follow in order to eradicate our preconceived notions nurtured over hundreds of years , this beacon of light will guide us through the difficult times ahead but will also force us to see that we are not just an island but a part of a much larger world that is growing in stature year on year.

Prices in Cyprus are generated usually by mostly local forces , so that when the Limassol Council charges rents up to 100,000 for a beach side Cafe one then must expect that the operators have to charge equally exorbitant prices for their goods.When Cyprus airports are amongst the worlds most atrociously expensive airports and when the operators of these airports are billionaires one must surely wonder as to who is responsible for the increase in prices.Let us have no illusions , while some prices have had a direct hike from being in Europe most have not , they have been increased to such heights because of US , THE CYPRIOTS.
We have become to be known as greedy manipulators of prices. When a taxi ride from Paphos airport to central town costs as much as 60 Euros can we honestly blame our entry into Europe , I think most emphatically NO. It is the " Greed "that rules and dictates price increases. Im also guilty of that in some respect.
Let us hope that a positive government driven by the people and not the bloody KOMMATA takes the required action to ensure that this politically potent event in our history progresses and benefits the island of Cyprus and all its people.

[wyoming cowboy]

Race and religion are becoming almost homogenous throughout the western world, an ideal first envisioned by Alexander the Great, almost 2400 years ago....This Greek ideal of basing the human experience on logic, science and discovery will probably in 1000 years lead humanity to the edges of the universe.

[YFred]

Isn’t it time we reconsidered Cyprus’ entry into the EU?

In the six years that we’ve joined the EU, all I’ve witnessed as a Cypriot citizen is a major fall in the quality of life Cypriots once enjoyed!

We’ve had a surge of foreigners gaining entry into the country which has led to a huge unemployment level by Cyprus standards, and a massive increase in crime including the introduction of crimes that were unheard of before!

On top of that our government is being pushed to legalize gay marriages, establish drug centers for junkies, the underworld has gained strength, and in the last five years gambling has taken biblical proportions on the island with a betting shop sprouting every 200m! Where exactly are we heading?

For whatever its worth, EU entry has also made Cyprus a very expensive holiday option that can no longer compete with other non-EU Mediterranean destinations.

Politically, entry into the EU has been a total failure as it has not upheld international law pertaining to the sovereignty and territorial integrity of UN-member Cyprus, and if anything it has encouraged Turkey to further cement her illegalities!

I can almost write a book about all the problems that have surfaced in the last five years but I’m going to keep this thread intro short and rather clattered due to lack of time.

Btw, on the plus side… the price of Scotch has come down by about 35%!

Does anyone else see a problem? Alarm bells ringing?


Regards, GR.

Racism, Homophobia, zenophobia and lifophobia all in one.
Bloody hell, what's the matter with the ordinary Cypriot. Ohps I forgot GR is no ordinary Cypriopt, he is a Cheekykitten

[Me Ed]

For a country with zero natural resources and poor green crudentials, in about 20 years Cyprus is going to need all the alliances it can get.

Yes, there is some oil, but even that is not going to last for ever ...

[YFred]

For a country with zero natural resources and poor green crudentials, in about 20 years Cyprus is going to need all the alliances it can get.

Yes, there is some oil, but even that is not going to last for ever ...

They will have to get to it first and judging by how much Greece was able to get out, I wouldn't hold my breath for it, although judging by some of the posts from the patriots on this forum they could do us all a favour and hold their bearth ayway, the smell is rather annoying to say the least, what?