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[denizaksulu]

Yeah right the Charity man has spoken. Let's ethnically cleanse the GCs steal their lands and properties donate them to trashy settles (hey they are lovely creatures because after all they are Turks like Mr Charity man) and then tell the GCs to hey "see through race" they are ordinary human beings, be realistic, let them stay...

Yeah right. The turks just woke up one morning and decided to invade. The one thing TCs feared was that they had become sitting ducks in the enclaves once the GC NG acquired Tanks. One must learn to analyse the risks involved in ones actions.
I thought that you greeks were good at maths. What went wrong then? or was that not part of finite analysis calculations. Instead of reducing risk you increased it to infinity.
Work that one out.

Pyro; are you suggesting that the forcible acquisition of GC land and homes was premedidated? I think not. There were miscalculations definitely, and the failure of the following 'peace talks' led to these acquisitions. There were decent refugees who would not touch a single book in the libraries of the 'deserted' homes of Greek Cyps. For a number of years they waited patiently till the 'peace talks' broke down. After that we know what happened when it was free for all and the northern admin mi-appropriated all the GC land and 'illegally' sold them of. We know that and I suspect that you know that. Now we have the settlers, whether we like it or not and as Tim says they seem part of the northern demography, and as time passes it will be nigh impossible to dislodge them.

You have to ask Denktash if it was premeditated or not Deniz, not the decent TC who would not even take a book from the library of his host home. Imo it was and that is proven from what happened to the GCs who remained enclaved in Karpas. All forced to leave slowly slowly and all replaced by settlers.

It is not a matter of showing a humane face to them, it's a matter of changing the demographics,and we are not talking for some 1-2%, TCs+settlers today are more than 33% of the total... do you understand what that means in terms of power sharing? Next we have the problem of the properties they acquired, nobody would be willing to return anything, so what humane face are we supposed to show them, for each one staying ANOTHER GC refugee loses everything, stays refugee for ever...

The TC side together with Ankara created additional problems to the already existing Cyprus problem. If we want a solution someone has to take responsibility and solve those problems. Who would that be the GCs???

So for the settlers: EVERYBODY who was not married with a TC should LEAVE. It doesn't matter if s/he was born here. He does not belong here, he is a product of illegal settlement. Not by grabbing him and his family and throwing him in the sea.TURKEY must built him a new home somewhere in Turkey, provide him equal lands and properties there, give him all the money he needs, to make a fresh start and REPATRIATE HIM. There is sun, there is air in Turkey, there is everything they need.

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Of course all the above assume that we will have a solution soon. I don't see it coming, in fact I see a new phase in Cyprus problem. That the north of Cyprus will become full of settlers and all original TCs will be history in the next 20 years or so. After that the Cyprus problem will no longer be a problem between 2 communities but a problem between Cyprus and Turkey as an occupation and settlement power.

You may be right or maybe wrong. I know that there were plans for partition, but for a negotiated partition; not by invasion and the terrors of war. Unfortunately the 1974 coup happened which lent itself an opportunity for Turkey to invade and everything got out of hand. Damn it.

Hey Deniz,
One can say that not only our brains here in Cyprus always mulfunctioned, we were also unlucky on top of it.

Just when we had some chance to solve the damn problem with Christofias Talat, boom we rolled an iki-bir and there comes Eroglu

Look at your zar properly, it was shesh besh not iki bir. Next time use a bodiri. You may have a better luck.

Just for you Yfred. Go and get baptised.


That is Stavrovouni btw.

But our one is prettier.

Her karga kendi yavrusunu en guzeli sanir./ All crows think their offspring is the pretiest. Mine is still bigger.

[Pyrpolizer]

I think Fredie deserves a second chance to chose.
Listen Fredie. When you get baptized all your sins are washed away. This means after that you can start making new sins....

So what's your choice now?

[denizaksulu]

I think Fredie deserves a second chance to chose.
Listen Fredie. When you get baptized all your sins are washed away. This means after that you can start making new sins....

So what's your choice now?

Please dont confuse our Freddy.

[YFred]

I think Fredie deserves a second chance to chose.
Listen Fredie. When you get baptized all your sins are washed away. This means after that you can start making new sins....

So what's your choice now?

I don't have any sins to start with which is why I don't need to fast. God help all those that are fasting this August.

Banaiyamu je gagon.

[Pyrpolizer]

I think Fredie deserves a second chance to chose.
Listen Fredie. When you get baptized all your sins are washed away. This means after that you can start making new sins....

So what's your choice now?

I don't have any sins to start with which is why I don't need to fast. God help all those that are fasting this August.

Banaiyamu je gagon.

IM-PO-SSI-BLE ! Every devil has at least a million. I have 3 million, Kikapu some more, Bir made his first 900,000 on a Greek island last year damn he is still Mother Theressa, Piratis can't count them anymore,DT, GR, Oracle, Paphitis etc are on the same wagon counting, Deniz cheated and got baptized at Stavrovouni so he is clean, there is only you left Freddy, so how many are they?

[YFred]

I think Fredie deserves a second chance to chose.
Listen Fredie. When you get baptized all your sins are washed away. This means after that you can start making new sins....

So what's your choice now?

I don't have any sins to start with which is why I don't need to fast. God help all those that are fasting this August.

Banaiyamu je gagon.

IM-PO-SSI-BLE ! Every devil has at least a million. I have 3 million, Kikapu some more, Bir made his first 900,000 on a Greek island last year damn he is still Mother Theressa, Piratis can't count them anymore,DT, GR, Oracle, Paphitis etc are on the same wagon counting, Deniz cheated and got baptized at Stavrovouni so he is clean, there is only you left Freddy, so how many are they?

A a . Etho eneho dibode. Aspruindo asprin? Gadalaves? Beyazcigin beyazi. roc took some of my land in 63 and as if that was not enough, they helped themselves in 74 too. Thieving bastards.
No sins. But I like your sins list? Who has Deniz cheated on then? Spill the beans old boy, don't just leave us in suspense, that's not good form is it?

[SKI-preo]

Just think about it. Jabba the hut and Denktash. Never seen in the same place at the same time.

[repulsewarrior]

The same could be said for GCs their arrogance and intrangience is well know which has and will continue to take them down the wrong path to permanent loss. We see you as you see the Turks before reacting just think about what I am saying before you explode with your standard responses.

truly vp, if you love this island you must fight. this insanity must stop somewhere. in essence you must choose as i have to be Cypriot, not Greek and not Turkish. the "Turks" and the "Greeks" hold the agenda, we must change this.

[denizaksulu]

I think Fredie deserves a second chance to chose.
Listen Fredie. When you get baptized all your sins are washed away. This means after that you can start making new sins....

So what's your choice now?

I don't have any sins to start with which is why I don't need to fast. God help all those that are fasting this August.

Banaiyamu je gagon.

IM-PO-SSI-BLE ! Every devil has at least a million. I have 3 million, Kikapu some more, Bir made his first 900,000 on a Greek island last year damn he is still Mother Theressa, Piratis can't count them anymore,DT, GR, Oracle, Paphitis etc are on the same wagon counting, Deniz cheated and got baptized at Stavrovouni so he is clean, there is only you left Freddy, so how many are they?

Ah, Panayia mou. I have been exposed.

[denizaksulu]

I think Fredie deserves a second chance to chose.
Listen Fredie. When you get baptized all your sins are washed away. This means after that you can start making new sins....

So what's your choice now?

I don't have any sins to start with which is why I don't need to fast. God help all those that are fasting this August.

Banaiyamu je gagon.

IM-PO-SSI-BLE ! Every devil has at least a million. I have 3 million, Kikapu some more, Bir made his first 900,000 on a Greek island last year damn he is still Mother Theressa, Piratis can't count them anymore,DT, GR, Oracle, Paphitis etc are on the same wagon counting, Deniz cheated and got baptized at Stavrovouni so he is clean, there is only you left Freddy, so how many are they?

A a . Etho eneho dibode. Aspruindo asprin? Gadalaves? Beyazcigin beyazi. roc took some of my land in 63 and as if that was not enough, they helped themselves in 74 too. Thieving bastards.
No sins. But I like your sins list? Who has Deniz cheated on then? Spill the beans old boy, don't just leave us in suspense, that's not good form is it?

For your info Yfredo. my grandmothers lakap was ASPRU and my grandfather from Ay,Theodoros was 'BEYAZ'. Doesnt that tell you something? (Hakikaten)