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The sad truth about Varosha....

Postby cymart » Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:14 pm

Turkey found it abandoned,grabbed it and looted it.....a few years later there were initiatives for it to be given to the U.N. so its original Greek-Cypriot inhabitants could return as negotiations for a solution progressed,but this was rejected by both sides under various pretexts.(see western plan,1978 and last weeks article by Nicos Rolandis)
Ever since then there have been various attempts to deal with the situation but knowing its value as a bargaining chip,Turkey will not give it up until the Greek-Cypriots come to an overall deal with them or at least meet some serious demands of theirs.The tragedy is that for the first ten years or so many of the buildings could have been renovated quickly,but after more than thirty five years most will have to be demolished as mold has infiltrated them to such an extent that it will be impossible to eradicate(See article by Nathan Morley in the Cyprus Mail on Alan Weissmans book 'The world without us' for which the author was given access to Varosha for research purposes)
Perhaps unknown to most Greek-Cypriots is that the closed area of Varosha is used in certain parts,mainly around the Sandy beach Hotel area by several thousand Turkish Military personnel as a holiday centre and there are a few hundred other people from the Turkish Cypriot municipality who are allowed access to provide services for them such as waste disposal,water,electricity etc.)
By visiting the Return to Varosha site on Multiply.com any one will see that there is a lot of information about Varosha,both past and present including some very interesting recent photos of the closed area.
As a person with an avid interest and family connections there I have always wanted to go back,but am well aware that many of the older former inhabitants are no longer alive and their descendants have no particular desire to go,even if they could...and under the best scenario,it would be at least five years before the town could be rebuilt.
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Postby YFred » Sun Apr 11, 2010 12:33 am

Magusa could have been given back many times and was not purely because of GC intransigence.

They can pay for its demolition and its reconstruction for punishment.
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Postby georgios100 » Sun Apr 11, 2010 2:09 am

Famagusta was looted along time ago...

I am referring to the current houses occupied by TCs to this day. These houses are in living condition but when the handover takes place, the TC occupants will destroy them while moving out...
YFred is talking only for him self. The rest of his kind may not share his "good nature"...

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Postby vaughanwilliams » Sun Apr 11, 2010 7:52 am

georgios100 wrote:Famagusta was looted along time ago...

I am referring to the current houses occupied by TCs to this day. These houses are in living condition but when the handover takes place, the TC occupants will destroy them while moving out...
YFred is talking only for him self. The rest of his kind may not share his "good nature"...

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What would GCs do, if the boot was on the other foot? If GCs were pulling out would they burn their houses down or leave flowers and a bottle of wine?
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Apr 11, 2010 4:56 pm

georgios100 wrote:Famagusta was looted along time ago...

I am referring to the current houses occupied by TCs to this day. These houses are in living condition but when the handover takes place, the TC occupants will destroy them while moving out...
YFred is talking only for him self. The rest of his kind may not share his "good nature"...

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This is totally wrong, why should they do such a thing? there are ways to stop this eg have the UN oversee their return.
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Postby runaway » Sun Apr 11, 2010 5:46 pm

Magosa won't be given to the enemy FULL STOP
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Postby Liontaroui » Sun Apr 11, 2010 7:17 pm

I'll be there
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Postby YFred » Sun Apr 11, 2010 7:59 pm

georgios100 wrote:Famagusta was looted along time ago...

I am referring to the current houses occupied by TCs to this day. These houses are in living condition but when the handover takes place, the TC occupants will destroy them while moving out...
YFred is talking only for him self. The rest of his kind may not share his "good nature"...

Georgios100

George, you are very wrong, most TCs I know are the same as me. Nothing will be demolished. I really think you should reconsider your conclusion however you arrived at it. Perhaps you can explain to us how you arrived at such a conclusion.
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Postby Liontaroui » Sun Apr 11, 2010 9:01 pm

Giorgo, the very nice gentleman in my Aunt's house (just outside the wire) has kept it in perfect condition. The areas inside, that were looted, will be in a very bad state as doors and windows were left open during the looting. Even if houses are closed, the smallest leak through normal wear and tear after 35 years will be pretty much fucked.
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Postby Liontaroui » Sun Apr 11, 2010 9:03 pm

And runaway, if that was the case they would have printed kochania and sold it to the Orams already. Go tell it to the liontaroui...
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