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If Famagusta is returned...

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby denizaksulu » Fri Apr 16, 2010 5:38 pm

Piratis wrote:
MR-from-NG wrote:
Sotos wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
Sotos wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
Sotos wrote:if you can not accept that Cyprus can be ruled by Cypriots because you are a minority and you will not have as much say as we do then obviously this island can not fit both of us. It is either us or you. A fight to the end.


And if you cannot accept that the only possible solution is a BBF with political equality,it will be a fight to the end all right...It will not be us..it will be you,bloody Greek fanatics,who will loose...You are no Cypriot...You have not an ounce of empathy or compassion for your fellow Cypriots of Turkish background...Only when your kind is eliminated from Cyprus will Peace and Justice come...Come on,I do not have another 50 years to wait...Make my day...Start your war now...!!!What are you waiting for...??? :evil: :evil: :D


I am 100% Cypriot ... unlike you. Empathy means to give to you 30% of our land and 50% of power when you are 18% ? :lol: You fucking idiot don't know what empathy means. Like you don't know what democracy means. Like you don't know what human rights means. Like you don't know what independence means. You just take words and give to them whatever meaning that you want! My favorite one is the meaning you give to unification. Unification for you means everything split in two :lol: Fucking moron! And the war you have already started when you invaded our island! We will defend our island from foreign invaders and our island will be free!



Listen,you stinkingGreek fanatical leper...Cyprus is my homeland and no one,let alone a treacherous Greek bastard like yourself will change that fact...You can take your democracy and human rights smokescreen and stick it up your sorry Greek arse...You showed your treachery in 1950,1960,1963,1967 and 1974...I cannot wait for the day you and your fellow ENOSIS -worshipping Greek septic tanks are wiped out from the face of Cyprus...Go on,put your money where your foul mouth is...Lets see who are the invaders and who are the treacherous cowards in Cyprus... :D


Cyprus is not your homeland. The homeland of Turks is Central Asia. Don't you even know your own history? :roll: Turks are from Central Asia who came and invaded our lands. You do not belong here. We don't mind foreigners, we have many others. But if you want to live in Cyprus you should become civilized otherwise we will have to send you back to Central Asia to live together with the Taliban with whom you share religion and have similar culture and ideals. You are just not suitable for a European country.


I blame my forefathers for this. You, you little shit should have been circumcised and speaking fucking Turkish if they did their jobs properly. Instead here you are playing the fucking majority and superiority card.


We were lucky that Cyprus was one of the last territories to be captured by the Turks and that the Turks lost control of our island in 1878, or else none of us would be here today.

If it wasn't for the Ottomans the population of Cypriots would have been 2 or 3 times more today. Not only the Turks have massacred 10s of thousands of Cypriots, but they let Cyprus into famines that drove the numbers of the Cypriot population down, while at the same time they were bringing their Settlers in our island to replace the local population. They couldn't get rid all of us at once since they needed slaves to exploit, but the process to annihilate us, de-Hellenize our island and replace us with Muslims was well on its way.

It is sad that today in the 21st century you exhibit the same kind of mentality as your forefathers did. It appears that universal principles such as democracy and human rights never registered with you.

Instead of threatening us with more of the same aggression (and then have the nerve to blame us because we have to fight in the conflicts and wars you initiate against us) it would be much better to finally leave behind that kind of middle age mentality and accept to have in Cyprus what exists in every other modern EU country.

For starters you should finally abandon your century old aim of de-Hellenizing Cyprus and start respecting the culture and identity of the majority of the population of this island as well as our history. You are free to define your identity and maintain your culture and similarly you should start respecting ours. There are many multi-ethnic nations around the world (most are today) and this is never a problem as long as all citizens are equal with no discrimination against them merely because they belong to one or another ethnic group.

The anachronistic Ottoman practices of dividing people based on their religion and giving different rights to people belonging to different groups should stay where it belongs - in the past. So should other racist apartheid practices such as segregation via ethnic cleansing.

Any kind of negotiation for a solution should be done within the above framework and anything that is undemocratic and violates the human rights of any number of citizens should be out of the question. This is the only way to find a true and lasting solution.

If you think that because you currently have more military power than us that you can blackmail us and force us to accept something racist and undemocratic that will benefit you on our expense, this will not provide a permanent solution since you should not expect the Cypriot people to be able to tolerate indefinitely racist discriminations and injustices on their expense. Such kind of "solution" will only be part of the problem and the circle of blood and violence will continue.

The most important thing you need to understand is this: Cyprus, the whole of it, belongs to all Cypriots, and the majority of all parts are GCs. Therefore there can not be any "Turkish Cyprus" anywhere on this island. The TCs are free to maintain their separate language, religion and culture and they will have their fair share of resources from the state in order to do this. They will also have the 100% of their human and democratic rights. Beyond that TCs will be equal Cypriot citizens, and they will participate in the normal democratic procedures along with the rest of Cypriots so we can all together decide what we want for our own island. In a democracy not every citizen needs to agree (that is impossible), and as long as the human rights of all citizens are 100% respected, decisions beyond that are taken by a majority vote.

The numerous other successful multi-ethnic nations show the way. We know what works and we know what doesn't. We learned from our own mistakes and the mistakes that many other nations did in the past, and this time don't expect from us to accept something racist and undemocratic, no matter how much we are forced and blackmailed.



Here goes.....it was gathering dust...........mixed with Icelandic ash.


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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Apr 16, 2010 5:42 pm

B25 wrote:Bravo Piratis, well said.

Now wait for that little shit Bir to come on line and start his Enosis bullshit again and how we should all be sorry for the TCs situation blah blah blah.

Bir has shown his true colours with his recent postings, his foul mouth gutter spewing insults really show him for what he is. Then a couple of other like Mr Frof and Runway.

Yeah, empathy and compassion they say, go fuck yourselves I say.



Pot and kettle comes to mind. You have spewn nothing but sewage from your mouth since day one. What a joke. Bir simply returns like for like. Its the only language you dumbskulls understand.
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Postby DTA » Fri Apr 16, 2010 6:18 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
B25 wrote:Bravo Piratis, well said.

Now wait for that little shit Bir to come on line and start his Enosis bullshit again and how we should all be sorry for the TCs situation blah blah blah.

Bir has shown his true colours with his recent postings, his foul mouth gutter spewing insults really show him for what he is. Then a couple of other like Mr Frof and Runway.

Yeah, empathy and compassion they say, go fuck yourselves I say.



Pot and kettle comes to mind. You have spewn nothing but sewage from your mouth since day one. What a joke. Bir simply returns like for like. Its the only language you dumbskulls understand.


I would second this!
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Re: If Famagusta is returned...

Postby EPSILON » Fri Apr 16, 2010 6:47 pm

georgios100 wrote:Whenever Famagusta is returned, I have serious doubts, many of the displaced Varoshiotes may not relocate back to their native town, including most of my immediate family members... 6 brothers & 2 sisters. Similar situation from most of my friends from Varoshia. To my surprise, none of their descendants (kids), born after the 1974 war, expressed any interest in returning back "home".

Most of them are "settled" in other cities or abroad. Others lost interest or motive to return back.

My question to you is:

Who is ready to return to Varoshia at a moments notice? Are we ready to re-claim Varoshia, the jewel of Cyprus?


Georgios100


You make a basic mistake
If Famagusta be returned the hoteliers will take-for 4th time-compensasion for their hotels- Citizens will ask Afganistan government,among others, to support them financially for cleaning streets and re-building houses and cinemas-believe me even Mongolians will declare themselves as citizens of Famagusta intending to return back...!!1
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Postby B25 » Fri Apr 16, 2010 7:59 pm

DTA wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
B25 wrote:Bravo Piratis, well said.

Now wait for that little shit Bir to come on line and start his Enosis bullshit again and how we should all be sorry for the TCs situation blah blah blah.

Bir has shown his true colours with his recent postings, his foul mouth gutter spewing insults really show him for what he is. Then a couple of other like Mr Frof and Runway.

Yeah, empathy and compassion they say, go fuck yourselves I say.



Pot and kettle comes to mind. You have spewn nothing but sewage from your mouth since day one. What a joke. Bir simply returns like for like. Its the only language you dumbskulls understand.


I would second this!


of course you would, turkish shit smells all the same, no!

Deniz, old fella, the idea of my post was to highlight the hypocricy your bumchum Bir is displaying. He makes out to be the moderate, compassionate, peace loving cypriot. My arse, he has shown us his true side, a murdering, tmt supporting partionist pig that he is.

So, on yer bike!

As for the Dozy Turkish Arsehole (aka DTA), waste of skin as the klingdons would say.
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Apr 16, 2010 8:02 pm

No words can describe USofA education. Flipin 'eck. Emma spells better than you. Shame on you.
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Postby B25 » Fri Apr 16, 2010 8:15 pm

denizaksulu wrote:No words can describe USofA education. Flipin 'eck. Emma spells better than you. Shame on you.


You lost me there grandad!
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Apr 16, 2010 8:51 pm

B25 wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:No words can describe USofA education. Flipin 'eck. Emma spells better than you. Shame on you.


You lost me there grandad!



as I proud granddad, I suggest you light a candle; it might help you see better.

Years ago on the CF, Bir/BK was Gentleman Jim on this forum. Many GCs will attest to that fact; that did not stop numbskulls from using unacceptable language towards him. Perhaps now he realises that this is the common language of this forum. Like for like. He even took me by surprise. So remember, pot and kettle.
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Postby growuptcs » Fri Apr 16, 2010 9:22 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
B25 wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:No words can describe USofA education. Flipin 'eck. Emma spells better than you. Shame on you.


You lost me there grandad!



as I proud granddad, I suggest you light a candle; it might help you see better.

Years ago on the CF, Bir/BK was Gentleman Jim on this forum. Many GCs will attest to that fact; that did not stop numbskulls from using unacceptable language towards him. Perhaps now he realises that this is the common language of this forum. Like for like. He even took me by surprise. So remember, pot and kettle.


Your right deniz, they were more down to earth back then. The sudden change of heart isn't because of GC's antagonizing them. Sticks and stones....remember? It's because they see a forceful ending coming to this impasse thats not in their favor.
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Apr 16, 2010 9:46 pm

growuptcs wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
B25 wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:No words can describe USofA education. Flipin 'eck. Emma spells better than you. Shame on you.


You lost me there grandad!



as I proud granddad, I suggest you light a candle; it might help you see better.

Years ago on the CF, Bir/BK was Gentleman Jim on this forum. Many GCs will attest to that fact; that did not stop numbskulls from using unacceptable language towards him. Perhaps now he realises that this is the common language of this forum. Like for like. He even took me by surprise. So remember, pot and kettle.


Your right deniz, they were more down to earth back then. The sudden change of heart isn't because of GC's antagonizing them. Sticks and stones....remember? It's because they see a forceful ending coming to this impasse thats not in their favor.


For fear of an erroneous response, would you please tell me who 'they' are. TCs, GCs, partitionista's, unionists and what ever other factions?

Bir extended his hand in friendship and was bitten more than once. He, indeed we are all learning.
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