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[YFred]

Your mom should of swallowed you when you were in delight form.

What is it with GCs and mothers. Have you been starved of childhood love or something. Leave the fucking mothers alone, particularly the ones who are old or departed. Grow up for fuck sake.

We're getting somewhere now. The emotion that you defend so rightly when I talk about mothers, is the same emotion the GC's have with the north when you talk about Turkifying it.

Then you have a serious emotional problem, with something you cannot have. Sooner you deal with it the sooner you may find peace my friend. Otherwise it will send you round the twist which will help nobody, least of all you or your descendents.

So be it, for as long as Turkey can get away with it for. It is, what it is. I guess we'll have to wait till she gets carved up into states like a pizza pie.

You have to realise that this is much bigger than Turkey. USA has to go first before such an event, but even if it happend, the smaller peace will still be bigger than what Greece or Cyprus can cope with.

You lost me. What do you mean USA has to go first before such an event?

So long as USa is there, Turkey has 100% support like Israil. Nothing will happen to her. Our big brother has even a bigger brother, if you get my drift.

Oh, your still relying on connections for scare tactics. You dope, USA has been giving you every sign that they want nothing to do with how your country's policies are run. USA may even be the first country to slap you down officially.

Have you tried your 5 minutes on the commedy circuit. You are very funny. Do you really believe what you are saying? Or are you just trying to wind me up.

[growuptcs]

Your mom should of swallowed you when you were in delight form.

What is it with GCs and mothers. Have you been starved of childhood love or something. Leave the fucking mothers alone, particularly the ones who are old or departed. Grow up for fuck sake.

We're getting somewhere now. The emotion that you defend so rightly when I talk about mothers, is the same emotion the GC's have with the north when you talk about Turkifying it.

Then you have a serious emotional problem, with something you cannot have. Sooner you deal with it the sooner you may find peace my friend. Otherwise it will send you round the twist which will help nobody, least of all you or your descendents.

So be it, for as long as Turkey can get away with it for. It is, what it is. I guess we'll have to wait till she gets carved up into states like a pizza pie.

You have to realise that this is much bigger than Turkey. USA has to go first before such an event, but even if it happend, the smaller peace will still be bigger than what Greece or Cyprus can cope with.

You lost me. What do you mean USA has to go first before such an event?

So long as USa is there, Turkey has 100% support like Israil. Nothing will happen to her. Our big brother has even a bigger brother, if you get my drift.

Oh, your still relying on connections for scare tactics. You dope, USA has been giving you every sign that they want nothing to do with how your country's policies are run. USA may even be the first country to slap you down officially.

Have you tried your 5 minutes on the commedy circuit. You are very funny. Do you really believe what you are saying? Or are you just trying to wind me up.

I think you should take your fez off right now and get serious.

[YFred]

Your mom should of swallowed you when you were in delight form.

What is it with GCs and mothers. Have you been starved of childhood love or something. Leave the fucking mothers alone, particularly the ones who are old or departed. Grow up for fuck sake.

We're getting somewhere now. The emotion that you defend so rightly when I talk about mothers, is the same emotion the GC's have with the north when you talk about Turkifying it.

Then you have a serious emotional problem, with something you cannot have. Sooner you deal with it the sooner you may find peace my friend. Otherwise it will send you round the twist which will help nobody, least of all you or your descendents.

So be it, for as long as Turkey can get away with it for. It is, what it is. I guess we'll have to wait till she gets carved up into states like a pizza pie.

You have to realise that this is much bigger than Turkey. USA has to go first before such an event, but even if it happend, the smaller peace will still be bigger than what Greece or Cyprus can cope with.

You lost me. What do you mean USA has to go first before such an event?

So long as USa is there, Turkey has 100% support like Israil. Nothing will happen to her. Our big brother has even a bigger brother, if you get my drift.

Oh, your still relying on connections for scare tactics. You dope, USA has been giving you every sign that they want nothing to do with how your country's policies are run. USA may even be the first country to slap you down officially.

Have you tried your 5 minutes on the commedy circuit. You are very funny. Do you really believe what you are saying? Or are you just trying to wind me up.

I think you should take your fez off right now and get serious.

Don't be fooled by my light hearted manner, I am very serious.

[georgios100]

Here come the bullies again... The TCS want another war. They "won" the 1974 war but ended up with the short end of the stick, living in no mans land, waiting for handouts from mother Turkey so they can put food on the table. Not able to provide a decent living for their families, education for their kids and non recognition from the civilized world...

Do you consider that "winning"? I think you just dug a deeper hole for yourselves. Refusing to submit to a unified RoC, the hole will get deeper and deeper... You may start another war but this time help in on the way for RoC from a worldwide coalition which would wipe out Turkey it self.

Your best choice is to work things out the civilized way and get with the program. War is not the solution, you'll loose big time, sit on the table to get this solution done, once & for all.

These scare tactics don't work no more, start behaving like Cypriots, not Turks (if you know the difference).

Georgios100

You are not paying attention,Georgio...
It was Sotos who threaten us with war...I simply invited him to put his money where his big mouth is...If he insist that after all that happened since the 50s the TCs will agree to become a minority in Cyprus,he is bonkers...The only possible realistic solution is a BBF with political equality...If you keep your heads in the sand and keep on accusing the TCs for the results of your bloody Enosis dream,you will get no sympathetic hearing from anyone...We are behaving like Cypriots,it is YOU who are behaving like Greeks...Just ask Piratis...Cyprus is a Greek island,and he will defend his right to Enosis to the last drop of his blood...What am I supposed to tell him??? Okey we lie down and give up...????

Hi there Bir,

Ny name is not Sotos or Piratis. As far as Enosis is concerned, I stated many times, Enosis is a dead issue, a long time ago.

I think like a Cypriot and so do you. It's your fellow TCs that get excited and promote bullish behavior, not me or you. If all TCs had your attitude towards the Cyprob, the solution would be here already.

Do you hear this TCs? Follow Bir's lead, the only way out of this. You have nothing to loose except the "supervision" from mother Turkey, not really a big loss, if you are to become Europeans.

It is up to you Bir, to convince your "paisano"s to give up warlike talk, threats and inflammatory posts on this board.

Nice talking to you.

Georgios100

[growuptcs]

Your mom should of swallowed you when you were in delight form.

What is it with GCs and mothers. Have you been starved of childhood love or something. Leave the fucking mothers alone, particularly the ones who are old or departed. Grow up for fuck sake.

We're getting somewhere now. The emotion that you defend so rightly when I talk about mothers, is the same emotion the GC's have with the north when you talk about Turkifying it.

Then you have a serious emotional problem, with something you cannot have. Sooner you deal with it the sooner you may find peace my friend. Otherwise it will send you round the twist which will help nobody, least of all you or your descendents.

So be it, for as long as Turkey can get away with it for. It is, what it is. I guess we'll have to wait till she gets carved up into states like a pizza pie.

You have to realise that this is much bigger than Turkey. USA has to go first before such an event, but even if it happend, the smaller peace will still be bigger than what Greece or Cyprus can cope with.

You lost me. What do you mean USA has to go first before such an event?

So long as USa is there, Turkey has 100% support like Israil. Nothing will happen to her. Our big brother has even a bigger brother, if you get my drift.

Oh, your still relying on connections for scare tactics. You dope, USA has been giving you every sign that they want nothing to do with how your country's policies are run. USA may even be the first country to slap you down officially.

Have you tried your 5 minutes on the commedy circuit. You are very funny. Do you really believe what you are saying? Or are you just trying to wind me up.

I think you should take your fez off right now and get serious.

Don't be fooled by my light hearted manner, I am very serious.

Seriously dillusional. For thinking about prosperity in the north to Turkeys tune.

[growuptcs]

Your mom should of swallowed you when you were in delight form.

What is it with GCs and mothers. Have you been starved of childhood love or something. Leave the fucking mothers alone, particularly the ones who are old or departed. Grow up for fuck sake.

We're getting somewhere now. The emotion that you defend so rightly when I talk about mothers, is the same emotion the GC's have with the north when you talk about Turkifying it.

Then you have a serious emotional problem, with something you cannot have. Sooner you deal with it the sooner you may find peace my friend. Otherwise it will send you round the twist which will help nobody, least of all you or your descendents.

So be it, for as long as Turkey can get away with it for. It is, what it is. I guess we'll have to wait till she gets carved up into states like a pizza pie.

You have to realise that this is much bigger than Turkey. USA has to go first before such an event, but even if it happend, the smaller peace will still be bigger than what Greece or Cyprus can cope with.

You lost me. What do you mean USA has to go first before such an event?

So long as USa is there, Turkey has 100% support like Israil. Nothing will happen to her. Our big brother has even a bigger brother, if you get my drift.

Oh, your still relying on connections for scare tactics. You dope, USA has been giving you every sign that they want nothing to do with how your country's policies are run. USA may even be the first country to slap you down officially.

Have you tried your 5 minutes on the commedy circuit. You are very funny. Do you really believe what you are saying? Or are you just trying to wind me up.

I think you should take your fez off right now and get serious.

Don't be fooled by my light hearted manner, I am very serious.

Seriously dillusional. For thinking about prosperity in the north to Turkeys tune.

[YFred]

Your mom should of swallowed you when you were in delight form.

What is it with GCs and mothers. Have you been starved of childhood love or something. Leave the fucking mothers alone, particularly the ones who are old or departed. Grow up for fuck sake.

We're getting somewhere now. The emotion that you defend so rightly when I talk about mothers, is the same emotion the GC's have with the north when you talk about Turkifying it.

Then you have a serious emotional problem, with something you cannot have. Sooner you deal with it the sooner you may find peace my friend. Otherwise it will send you round the twist which will help nobody, least of all you or your descendents.

So be it, for as long as Turkey can get away with it for. It is, what it is. I guess we'll have to wait till she gets carved up into states like a pizza pie.

You have to realise that this is much bigger than Turkey. USA has to go first before such an event, but even if it happend, the smaller peace will still be bigger than what Greece or Cyprus can cope with.

You lost me. What do you mean USA has to go first before such an event?

So long as USa is there, Turkey has 100% support like Israil. Nothing will happen to her. Our big brother has even a bigger brother, if you get my drift.

Oh, your still relying on connections for scare tactics. You dope, USA has been giving you every sign that they want nothing to do with how your country's policies are run. USA may even be the first country to slap you down officially.

Have you tried your 5 minutes on the commedy circuit. You are very funny. Do you really believe what you are saying? Or are you just trying to wind me up.

I think you should take your fez off right now and get serious.

Don't be fooled by my light hearted manner, I am very serious.

Seriously dillusional. For thinking about prosperity in the north to Turkeys tune.

Delusional? who me? You are welcome to take her on and remove her lock stock and barrel

[growuptcs]

Pretty soon the wizard of oz in Turkey will have to answer to DORAthy. So you have to wait to do your song and dance. Midget.

[BirKibrisli]

Here come the bullies again... The TCS want another war. They "won" the 1974 war but ended up with the short end of the stick, living in no mans land, waiting for handouts from mother Turkey so they can put food on the table. Not able to provide a decent living for their families, education for their kids and non recognition from the civilized world...

Do you consider that "winning"? I think you just dug a deeper hole for yourselves. Refusing to submit to a unified RoC, the hole will get deeper and deeper... You may start another war but this time help in on the way for RoC from a worldwide coalition which would wipe out Turkey it self.

Your best choice is to work things out the civilized way and get with the program. War is not the solution, you'll loose big time, sit on the table to get this solution done, once & for all.

These scare tactics don't work no more, start behaving like Cypriots, not Turks (if you know the difference).

Georgios100

You are not paying attention,Georgio...
It was Sotos who threaten us with war...I simply invited him to put his money where his big mouth is...If he insist that after all that happened since the 50s the TCs will agree to become a minority in Cyprus,he is bonkers...The only possible realistic solution is a BBF with political equality...If you keep your heads in the sand and keep on accusing the TCs for the results of your bloody Enosis dream,you will get no sympathetic hearing from anyone...We are behaving like Cypriots,it is YOU who are behaving like Greeks...Just ask Piratis...Cyprus is a Greek island,and he will defend his right to Enosis to the last drop of his blood...What am I supposed to tell him??? Okey we lie down and give up...????

Hi there Bir,

Ny name is not Sotos or Piratis. As far as Enosis is concerned, I stated many times, Enosis is a dead issue, a long time ago.

I think like a Cypriot and so do you. It's your fellow TCs that get excited and promote bullish behavior, not me or you. If all TCs had your attitude towards the Cyprob, the solution would be here already.

Do you hear this TCs? Follow Bir's lead, the only way out of this. You have nothing to loose except the "supervision" from mother Turkey, not really a big loss, if you are to become Europeans.

It is up to you Bir, to convince your "paisano"s to give up warlike talk, threats and inflammatory posts on this board.

Nice talking to you.

Georgios100

It's nice talking to you to Georgio...
Long before you arrived on the scene I spend some years talking about the part the TCs played in our little tragedy,and tried to convince the TCs on this board that only a Unitary State solution based on democratic and human rights principles and one-vote-one-value system of politics would lead to a lasting and peaceful coexsistance in Cyprus...My efforts were sabotaged by those fanatical/extremist Greeks/GCs here who just kept distorting our recent history and attacking all things Turk and TC with vengence...Their refusal to accept the privital role Of ENOSIS,and the plight of the TCs between 1963-74,and their continuing accusations that the TCs are thieves who want to enjoy their gains on GC expense rubbed plenty of salt in my wounds...My family has lost all our properties in the South,and I have been living in exile for over 40 years...I have realised that people who refuse to see the facts and show little empathy or compassion for the TC predicament cannot be trusted not to try their ENOSIS ideal once again...I know that most GCs now accept that Enosis with Greece is an impossible dream,but they have replaced it with another (from what I deduct from the posts of the Extremists here)...The new dream is " To reduce the TCs into a political minority again,and dominate and rule them at will"...This is the new ENOSIS for the fanatical GCs...Once I realised the deep rooted hatred and bitterness against the TCs still burning in certain GC hearts,I could no longer try to convince my fellow TCs that they could trust their fellow GCs...The best I can hope for now is a BBF with polital equality with or without Turkey's guarantee...

My frustration is that the GC fanatics will not agree to such a solution,they would rather see the status quo continue,till "the balance of power changes" or "Turkey is dismantled" or"The EU puts enough pressure on Turkey to leave the TCs to their fate"...As none of this will ever happen,I can see the status quo continuing in the short term,replaced by Permanent Partition in the long term,leading to the Tiwanisation of the trnc eventually...That would mean total Turkification of the North,a fate the GCs say they do not want...I have tried and failed to convince the more fanantical GCs that they are really cutting off their nose to spite their face...Perhaps you will have better luck...

[Sotos]

Would GCs return to Maraş if it was under TRNC rule?

They would of already you freak.

They cant you moron. Try and keep up I know its hard for you due to your moronic brain but if property was returned to GCs in the Maraş area but it remained part of the TRNC would GCs return and live under our administration?

No, your the moron. It's like saying your having a boy before you have intercourse.

VP asked a legitimate question,growup...Presently no GC settlement is allowed in Varosia...If they were allowed, under the present trnc administration,would the GCs return to their properties.....That is the question...Answer it or say you refuse to answer it...Don't try to evade it...

We don't want to live under Turkish/Ottoman rule. We want to live free in our island!

And the TCs don't want to live under Greek/GC rule...They want to be free,and masters of their own future...How are we going to overcome this impass??? Partition seems to be the only reasonable solution...What say you,Sotos???

Why did you come to Cyprus then? Obviously you made a mistake. I don't remember us asking you to come to Cyprus and live under our rule. You created this impasse by coming to Cyprus and the problem will be solved by you leaving. This is a much more reasonable solution than the one you offer.

I was born in Cyprus,Sotos...Had no choice in the matter...So was my mother and my father,and all my ancestors for hundreds of years...If it was my choice I would never have chosen to be neighbours with such fanatical,bloodyminded,bitter and twisted individuals such as yourself...

I am not silly enough to fight the forces of history going back to 1571...But since YOU are,I dare you to remove the TCs from their homeland by force...go on make my day...You tried your best to get rid of us back in the 50s and the 60s,and you partly suceeded... I am the Aissie-living proof of that...

But the tables have turned now...Your fanatical Enosis -worshipping mind better grasp this...or your sorry arse will be very sore indeed....

You are the fanatical ones because you keep invading our island, keep killing the Cypriot people, keep bringing Settlers to our island ... and since you are foreigners you are not compatible with the local population of Cyprus and that is why you can't accept to live with us peacefully and with democracy ... you barbarians don't know what democracy is. The Turkish expansionism is the problem of Cyprus. You killed at least 30.000 Cypriots so far and then you say we are the ones who tried to get rid of you? And after all this is our island. You either like us for what we are or you can fuck of to where you belong and live along with other barbarian Muslims. Here is a Greek European Christian island. So either learn to live with Greek, European and Christian principles such as democracy and human rights or go back to Afghanistan, Turkmenistan and live like Taliban as you like.