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[Paphitis]

Bananiot,
The TC belief was that Yorgadjis was the most fanatical EOKA member,and later on ,as minister for Interiror,he was the operational head of the EOKA remnants...He was thus despised and feared...Do you believe this was the case???

The above are just TC myths and exaggerations. Yorgadjis yielded much power and influence within the Makarios cabinet, but was never more influential over former EOKA members than Grivas and Makarios themselves. There were no EOKA remnants. The organisation did not exist. There were many former EOKA fighters who were rewarded with positions of High Office or became senior public servants.

There was only the CNG and Cyprus Police, who were under the command of Makarios, followed by Yorgadjis and Grivas. TMT strongholds at Kophinou and Kokkina were attacked by the CNG, for blocking the Nicosia to Limassol highway at Kophinou and for Turkish arms smuggling in Kokkina. Even after weeks of CNG and police patrols being attacked, Makarios hesitated and did not want to attack the TMT. Eventually CNG personnel were killed from TMT ambush along the highway, and so Makarios was left with no other choice. The strongholds were reluctantly attacked, and this is what the TMT wanted.

Yes BIR, TMT kept ambushing ROC CNG and police, some were killed, and then the ROC attacked back.

You still refuse to answer my question...There was no CNG in 1963,the two sides could NOT come to an agreement between 1960 -63 to form it...So,
WHO WERE THE GC PARAMILITARIES WHO WERE ATTACKING MY ENCLAVE IN NICOSIA AT THE END OF DECEMBER 1963,IF NOT EOKA REMNANTS????????

Here we go again, you self-serving Turk.

The TCs disrupted governmental processes, organised illegal gangs of TMT with their own insurgent army, prepared enclaves to assist the partition of Cyprus and then you have the audacity to complain if our ministers defend the territorial integrity of the Republic of Cyprus by organising a Greek Cypriot defence!

Spot on!

There was Civil Disobedience from TMT supporting Turkish Cypriots to further Partition, and Yorgadjis responded by sending in the Police!

[YFred]

Bananiot,
The TC belief was that Yorgadjis was the most fanatical EOKA member,and later on ,as minister for Interiror,he was the operational head of the EOKA remnants...He was thus despised and feared...Do you believe this was the case???

The above are just TC myths and exaggerations. Yorgadjis yielded much power and influence within the Makarios cabinet, but was never more influential over former EOKA members than Grivas and Makarios themselves. There were no EOKA remnants. The organisation did not exist. There were many former EOKA fighters who were rewarded with positions of High Office or became senior public servants.

There was only the CNG and Cyprus Police, who were under the command of Makarios, followed by Yorgadjis and Grivas. TMT strongholds at Kophinou and Kokkina were attacked by the CNG, for blocking the Nicosia to Limassol highway at Kophinou and for Turkish arms smuggling in Kokkina. Even after weeks of CNG and police patrols being attacked, Makarios hesitated and did not want to attack the TMT. Eventually CNG personnel were killed from TMT ambush along the highway, and so Makarios was left with no other choice. The strongholds were reluctantly attacked, and this is what the TMT wanted.

Yes BIR, TMT kept ambushing ROC CNG and police, some were killed, and then the ROC attacked back.

You still refuse to answer my question...There was no CNG in 1963,the two sides could NOT come to an agreement between 1960 -63 to form it...So,
WHO WERE THE GC PARAMILITARIES WHO WERE ATTACKING MY ENCLAVE IN NICOSIA AT THE END OF DECEMBER 1963,IF NOT EOKA REMNANTS????????

Here we go again, you self-serving Turk.

The TCs disrupted governmental processes, organised illegal gangs of TMT with their own insurgent army, prepared enclaves to assist the partition of Cyprus and then you have the audacity to complain if our ministers defend the territorial integrity of the Republic of Cyprus by organising a Greek Cypriot defence!

Spot on!

There was Civil Disobedience from TMT supporting Turkish Cypriots to further Partition, and Yorgadjis responded by sending in the Police!

So are you saying that all TCs killed during this time were TMT and there were no innocent TCs picked on the road side and killed. My god the police were killing innocent civilians. RoC RIP.

[Paphitis]

Bananiot,
The TC belief was that Yorgadjis was the most fanatical EOKA member,and later on ,as minister for Interiror,he was the operational head of the EOKA remnants...He was thus despised and feared...Do you believe this was the case???

The above are just TC myths and exaggerations. Yorgadjis yielded much power and influence within the Makarios cabinet, but was never more influential over former EOKA members than Grivas and Makarios themselves. There were no EOKA remnants. The organisation did not exist. There were many former EOKA fighters who were rewarded with positions of High Office or became senior public servants.

There was only the CNG and Cyprus Police, who were under the command of Makarios, followed by Yorgadjis and Grivas. TMT strongholds at Kophinou and Kokkina were attacked by the CNG, for blocking the Nicosia to Limassol highway at Kophinou and for Turkish arms smuggling in Kokkina. Even after weeks of CNG and police patrols being attacked, Makarios hesitated and did not want to attack the TMT. Eventually CNG personnel were killed from TMT ambush along the highway, and so Makarios was left with no other choice. The strongholds were reluctantly attacked, and this is what the TMT wanted.

Yes BIR, TMT kept ambushing ROC CNG and police, some were killed, and then the ROC attacked back.

You still refuse to answer my question...There was no CNG in 1963,the two sides could NOT come to an agreement between 1960 -63 to form it...So,
WHO WERE THE GC PARAMILITARIES WHO WERE ATTACKING MY ENCLAVE IN NICOSIA AT THE END OF DECEMBER 1963,IF NOT EOKA REMNANTS????????

Here we go again, you self-serving Turk.

The TCs disrupted governmental processes, organised illegal gangs of TMT with their own insurgent army, prepared enclaves to assist the partition of Cyprus and then you have the audacity to complain if our ministers defend the territorial integrity of the Republic of Cyprus by organising a Greek Cypriot defence!

Spot on!

There was Civil Disobedience from TMT supporting Turkish Cypriots to further Partition, and Yorgadjis responded by sending in the Police!

So are you saying that all TCs killed during this time were TMT and there were no innocent TCs picked on the road side and killed. My god the police were killing innocent civilians. RoC RIP.

Who was killed on the 21 Dec 1963?

Got any evidence?

[BirKibrisli]

Bananiot,
The TC belief was that Yorgadjis was the most fanatical EOKA member,and later on ,as minister for Interiror,he was the operational head of the EOKA remnants...He was thus despised and feared...Do you believe this was the case???

The above are just TC myths and exaggerations. Yorgadjis yielded much power and influence within the Makarios cabinet, but was never more influential over former EOKA members than Grivas and Makarios themselves. There were no EOKA remnants. The organisation did not exist. There were many former EOKA fighters who were rewarded with positions of High Office or became senior public servants.

There was only the CNG and Cyprus Police, who were under the command of Makarios, followed by Yorgadjis and Grivas. TMT strongholds at Kophinou and Kokkina were attacked by the CNG, for blocking the Nicosia to Limassol highway at Kophinou and for Turkish arms smuggling in Kokkina. Even after weeks of CNG and police patrols being attacked, Makarios hesitated and did not want to attack the TMT. Eventually CNG personnel were killed from TMT ambush along the highway, and so Makarios was left with no other choice. The strongholds were reluctantly attacked, and this is what the TMT wanted.

Yes BIR, TMT kept ambushing ROC CNG and police, some were killed, and then the ROC attacked back.

You still refuse to answer my question...There was no CNG in 1963,the two sides could NOT come to an agreement between 1960 -63 to form it...So,
WHO WERE THE GC PARAMILITARIES WHO WERE ATTACKING MY ENCLAVE IN NICOSIA AT THE END OF DECEMBER 1963,IF NOT EOKA REMNANTS????????

Here we go again, you self-serving Turk.

The TCs disrupted governmental processes, organised illegal gangs of TMT with their own insurgent army, prepared enclaves to assist the partition of Cyprus and then you have the audacity to complain if our ministers defend the territorial integrity of the Republic of Cyprus by organising a Greek Cypriot defence!

Put a sock in it ,you half-witted Greek...(That feels good!!!!! )

The agressors have become the victims once again...Killing women and children has now become "organising a Greek Cypriot defence"....GO Oracle...Grivas,your father,would be very proud of you...

[Paphitis]

Bananiot,
The TC belief was that Yorgadjis was the most fanatical EOKA member,and later on ,as minister for Interiror,he was the operational head of the EOKA remnants...He was thus despised and feared...Do you believe this was the case???

The above are just TC myths and exaggerations. Yorgadjis yielded much power and influence within the Makarios cabinet, but was never more influential over former EOKA members than Grivas and Makarios themselves. There were no EOKA remnants. The organisation did not exist. There were many former EOKA fighters who were rewarded with positions of High Office or became senior public servants.

There was only the CNG and Cyprus Police, who were under the command of Makarios, followed by Yorgadjis and Grivas. TMT strongholds at Kophinou and Kokkina were attacked by the CNG, for blocking the Nicosia to Limassol highway at Kophinou and for Turkish arms smuggling in Kokkina. Even after weeks of CNG and police patrols being attacked, Makarios hesitated and did not want to attack the TMT. Eventually CNG personnel were killed from TMT ambush along the highway, and so Makarios was left with no other choice. The strongholds were reluctantly attacked, and this is what the TMT wanted.

Yes BIR, TMT kept ambushing ROC CNG and police, some were killed, and then the ROC attacked back.

You still refuse to answer my question...There was no CNG in 1963,the two sides could NOT come to an agreement between 1960 -63 to form it...So,
WHO WERE THE GC PARAMILITARIES WHO WERE ATTACKING MY ENCLAVE IN NICOSIA AT THE END OF DECEMBER 1963,IF NOT EOKA REMNANTS????????

Here we go again, you self-serving Turk.

The TCs disrupted governmental processes, organised illegal gangs of TMT with their own insurgent army, prepared enclaves to assist the partition of Cyprus and then you have the audacity to complain if our ministers defend the territorial integrity of the Republic of Cyprus by organising a Greek Cypriot defence!

Put a sock in it ,you half-witted Greek...(That feels good!!!!! )

The agressors have become the victims once again...Killing women and children has now become "organising a Greek Cypriot defence"....GO Oracle...Grivas,your father,would be very proud of you...

Stop being hysterical!

You are referring to an incident that occurred on the 21 Dec 63 that involved TC separatists and the RoC Police. Yorgadjis would not have been present since he was Minister of the Interior!

You have once again made unsubstantiated claims that people were killed on this day. Please provide a credible link!

[BirKibrisli]

Bananiot,
The TC belief was that Yorgadjis was the most fanatical EOKA member,and later on ,as minister for Interiror,he was the operational head of the EOKA remnants...He was thus despised and feared...Do you believe this was the case???

The above are just TC myths and exaggerations. Yorgadjis yielded much power and influence within the Makarios cabinet, but was never more influential over former EOKA members than Grivas and Makarios themselves. There were no EOKA remnants. The organisation did not exist. There were many former EOKA fighters who were rewarded with positions of High Office or became senior public servants.

There was only the CNG and Cyprus Police, who were under the command of Makarios, followed by Yorgadjis and Grivas. TMT strongholds at Kophinou and Kokkina were attacked by the CNG, for blocking the Nicosia to Limassol highway at Kophinou and for Turkish arms smuggling in Kokkina. Even after weeks of CNG and police patrols being attacked, Makarios hesitated and did not want to attack the TMT. Eventually CNG personnel were killed from TMT ambush along the highway, and so Makarios was left with no other choice. The strongholds were reluctantly attacked, and this is what the TMT wanted.

Yes BIR, TMT kept ambushing ROC CNG and police, some were killed, and then the ROC attacked back.

You still refuse to answer my question...There was no CNG in 1963,the two sides could NOT come to an agreement between 1960 -63 to form it...So,
WHO WERE THE GC PARAMILITARIES WHO WERE ATTACKING MY ENCLAVE IN NICOSIA AT THE END OF DECEMBER 1963,IF NOT EOKA REMNANTS????????

Here we go again, you self-serving Turk.

The TCs disrupted governmental processes, organised illegal gangs of TMT with their own insurgent army, prepared enclaves to assist the partition of Cyprus and then you have the audacity to complain if our ministers defend the territorial integrity of the Republic of Cyprus by organising a Greek Cypriot defence!

Spot on!

There was Civil Disobedience from TMT supporting Turkish Cypriots to further Partition, and Yorgadjis responded by sending in the Police!

So are you saying that all TCs killed during this time were TMT and there were no innocent TCs picked on the road side and killed. My god the police were killing innocent civilians. RoC RIP.

YFred,please be kind to Paphidis...He is very happy in his ignorance,his denial of the facts you and I lived through in Cyprus...Sudden onset of reality might send him further around the bend...Have pity on him!Let him stew in his own juices...

[Paphitis]

Bananiot,
The TC belief was that Yorgadjis was the most fanatical EOKA member,and later on ,as minister for Interiror,he was the operational head of the EOKA remnants...He was thus despised and feared...Do you believe this was the case???

The above are just TC myths and exaggerations. Yorgadjis yielded much power and influence within the Makarios cabinet, but was never more influential over former EOKA members than Grivas and Makarios themselves. There were no EOKA remnants. The organisation did not exist. There were many former EOKA fighters who were rewarded with positions of High Office or became senior public servants.

There was only the CNG and Cyprus Police, who were under the command of Makarios, followed by Yorgadjis and Grivas. TMT strongholds at Kophinou and Kokkina were attacked by the CNG, for blocking the Nicosia to Limassol highway at Kophinou and for Turkish arms smuggling in Kokkina. Even after weeks of CNG and police patrols being attacked, Makarios hesitated and did not want to attack the TMT. Eventually CNG personnel were killed from TMT ambush along the highway, and so Makarios was left with no other choice. The strongholds were reluctantly attacked, and this is what the TMT wanted.

Yes BIR, TMT kept ambushing ROC CNG and police, some were killed, and then the ROC attacked back.

You still refuse to answer my question...There was no CNG in 1963,the two sides could NOT come to an agreement between 1960 -63 to form it...So,
WHO WERE THE GC PARAMILITARIES WHO WERE ATTACKING MY ENCLAVE IN NICOSIA AT THE END OF DECEMBER 1963,IF NOT EOKA REMNANTS????????

Here we go again, you self-serving Turk.

The TCs disrupted governmental processes, organised illegal gangs of TMT with their own insurgent army, prepared enclaves to assist the partition of Cyprus and then you have the audacity to complain if our ministers defend the territorial integrity of the Republic of Cyprus by organising a Greek Cypriot defence!

Spot on!

There was Civil Disobedience from TMT supporting Turkish Cypriots to further Partition, and Yorgadjis responded by sending in the Police!

So are you saying that all TCs killed during this time were TMT and there were no innocent TCs picked on the road side and killed. My god the police were killing innocent civilians. RoC RIP.

YFred,please be kind to Paphidis...He is very happy in his ignorance,his denial of the facts you and I lived through in Cyprus...Sudden onset of reality might send him further around the bend...Have pity on him!Let him stew in his own juices...

Do you want to tall us about the stash of TMT weapons your father stashed under your bed? Weapons that were probably used to ethnically cleanse Armenians from Old Nicosia and which were probably used against the RoC's Police in order to spark the violence to further your Partition objectives.

Are you saying that the RoC Police didn't have the right to restore law and order and defend the Republic against your criminal actions?

[BirKibrisli]

Bananiot,
The TC belief was that Yorgadjis was the most fanatical EOKA member,and later on ,as minister for Interiror,he was the operational head of the EOKA remnants...He was thus despised and feared...Do you believe this was the case???

The above are just TC myths and exaggerations. Yorgadjis yielded much power and influence within the Makarios cabinet, but was never more influential over former EOKA members than Grivas and Makarios themselves. There were no EOKA remnants. The organisation did not exist. There were many former EOKA fighters who were rewarded with positions of High Office or became senior public servants.

There was only the CNG and Cyprus Police, who were under the command of Makarios, followed by Yorgadjis and Grivas. TMT strongholds at Kophinou and Kokkina were attacked by the CNG, for blocking the Nicosia to Limassol highway at Kophinou and for Turkish arms smuggling in Kokkina. Even after weeks of CNG and police patrols being attacked, Makarios hesitated and did not want to attack the TMT. Eventually CNG personnel were killed from TMT ambush along the highway, and so Makarios was left with no other choice. The strongholds were reluctantly attacked, and this is what the TMT wanted.

Yes BIR, TMT kept ambushing ROC CNG and police, some were killed, and then the ROC attacked back.

You still refuse to answer my question...There was no CNG in 1963,the two sides could NOT come to an agreement between 1960 -63 to form it...So,
WHO WERE THE GC PARAMILITARIES WHO WERE ATTACKING MY ENCLAVE IN NICOSIA AT THE END OF DECEMBER 1963,IF NOT EOKA REMNANTS????????

Here we go again, you self-serving Turk.

The TCs disrupted governmental processes, organised illegal gangs of TMT with their own insurgent army, prepared enclaves to assist the partition of Cyprus and then you have the audacity to complain if our ministers defend the territorial integrity of the Republic of Cyprus by organising a Greek Cypriot defence!

Spot on!

There was Civil Disobedience from TMT supporting Turkish Cypriots to further Partition, and Yorgadjis responded by sending in the Police!

So are you saying that all TCs killed during this time were TMT and there were no innocent TCs picked on the road side and killed. My god the police were killing innocent civilians. RoC RIP.

YFred,please be kind to Paphidis...He is very happy in his ignorance,his denial of the facts you and I lived through in Cyprus...Sudden onset of reality might send him further around the bend...Have pity on him!Let him stew in his own juices...

Do you want to tall us about the stash of TMT weapons your father stashed under your bed? Weapons that were probably used to ethnically cleanse Armenians from Old Nicosia and which were probably used against the RoC's Police in order to spark the violence to further your Partition objectives.

Sure...The weapons were for defending ourselves against possible EOKA attacks...They were not under my bed but in my bed,to hide them from the British...The place was Yialia,in Paphos,and the time was 1957-58...Anything else you would like to know????

[Viewpoint]

Bir did you pray every night that eoka would attack and shoot you in the head all in the cause of partition?

[BirKibrisli]

Bir did you pray every night that eoka would attack and shoot you in the head all in the cause of partition?

I probably would've ,VP,if I knew what Partition was....