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[Oracle]

A potentially interesting thread ruined by the deletions which questioned the validity of these partisan sources.

A thread now reserved as a soapbox for Bananiot and some TCs.

What a shame for freedom of speech ....

I think you will find that Bananiot was the first member to offer anything that was useful. DT was the next member, and then Get Real! jumped on an all out hysterical campaign to trash this thread.

I have the right to start any thread I like, and Bananiot offered some very clear and concise factual information, on this occasion! Freedom of Speech is important for all of us, not just Get Real!

Do you have any information of your own? I would like to hear your views, since you grew up in this era.

Droushiotis is not a source I would give much credence too, but most information given in Bananiot's posts have proven to be quite factual and accurate apart from some emotive passages where he describes Tassos Papadopoulos, and Yorgadjis as 'Turk Haters'.

This thread is about disproving the TC myth that Yorgadjis was a menacing TC eating killer. I believe the objective has been fulfilled since Bananiot and Bir haven't offered any credible evidence to prove otherwise.

I wasn't referring to any of GR!'s deletions. Maybe mine were collateral damage along with those. But I was merely querying how Bananiot was being regarded as the fount of all knowledge and why his opinions or paraphrasing one source like the already discredited partisan Droushiotis was all the evidence required. There was nothing personal. Bananiot then attacked my mother ... so maybe that's why they were deleted, I suppose.

Keep up the good work ...

[Paphitis]

A potentially interesting thread ruined by the deletions which questioned the validity of these partisan sources.

A thread now reserved as a soapbox for Bananiot and some TCs.

What a shame for freedom of speech ....

I think you will find that Bananiot was the first member to offer anything that was useful. DT was the next member, and then Get Real! jumped on an all out hysterical campaign to trash this thread.

I have the right to start any thread I like, and Bananiot offered some very clear and concise factual information, on this occasion! Freedom of Speech is important for all of us, not just Get Real!

Do you have any information of your own? I would like to hear your views, since you grew up in this era.

Droushiotis is not a source I would give much credence too, but most information given in Bananiot's posts have proven to be quite factual and accurate apart from some emotive passages where he describes Tassos Papadopoulos, and Yorgadjis as 'Turk Haters'.

This thread is about disproving the TC myth that Yorgadjis was a menacing TC eating killer. I believe the objective has been fulfilled since Bananiot and Bir haven't offered any credible evidence to prove otherwise.

I wasn't referring to any of GR!'s deletions. Maybe mine were collateral damage along with those. But I was merely querying how Bananiot was being regarded as the fount of all knowledge and why his opinions or paraphrasing one source like the already discredited partisan Droushiotis was all the evidence required. There was nothing personal. Bananiot then attacked my mother ... so maybe that's why they were deleted, I suppose.

Keep up the good work ...

Yes I believe yours was collateral damage.

Bananiot was not regarded as the fountain of knowledge, but I asked him about the subject at hand since he was the only person to have offered useful information, apart from Vuryek and DT.

Yes, we are well aware about Droushiotis, and the fact that he is not the most unbiased of sources. Bananiot did reply, and hist posts did contain more useful and factual information apart from 1 or 2 unsubstantiated claims he made about Tassos Papadopoulos and Yorgadjis, which can be only regarded as his opinion!

I believe most people are smart enough to distinguish between the facts he did provide, and his unsubstantiated opinions about Tassos Papadopoulos and Yorgadjis.

I believe Get Real! is the one that sparked the deletions, not you.

[Get Real!]

..., and Bananiot offered some very clear and concise factual information,

Based on which sources?

This thread is about disproving the TC myth that Yorgadjis was a menacing TC eating killer.

Has it changed direction now? I thought this thread was about your ignorance and stupidity!

I believe the objective has been fulfilled since Bananiot and Bir haven't offered any credible evidence to prove otherwise.

Contradicting yourself again eh? Didn't even last a minute!

How’s the stew coming along Paphitis?

[BirKibrisli]

Bananiot,
The TC belief was that Yorgadjis was the most fanatical EOKA member,and later on ,as minister for Interiror,he was the operational head of the EOKA remnants...He was thus despised and feared...Do you believe this was the case???

The above are just TC myths and exaggerations. Yorgadjis yielded much power and influence within the Makarios cabinet, but was never more influential over former EOKA members than Grivas and Makarios themselves. There were no EOKA remnants. The organisation did not exist. There were many former EOKA fighters who were rewarded with positions of High Office or became senior public servants.

There was only the CNG and Cyprus Police, who were under the command of Makarios, followed by Yorgadjis and Grivas. TMT strongholds at Kophinou and Kokkina were attacked by the CNG, for blocking the Nicosia to Limassol highway at Kophinou and for Turkish arms smuggling in Kokkina. Even after weeks of CNG and police patrols being attacked, Makarios hesitated and did not want to attack the TMT. Eventually CNG personnel were killed from TMT ambush along the highway, and so Makarios was left with no other choice. The strongholds were reluctantly attacked, and this is what the TMT wanted.

Yes BIR, TMT kept ambushing ROC CNG and police, some were killed, and then the ROC attacked back.

You still refuse to answer my question...There was no CNG in 1963,the two sides could NOT come to an agreement between 1960 -63 to form it...So,
WHO WERE THE GC PARAMILITARIES WHO WERE ATTACKING MY ENCLAVE IN NICOSIA AT THE END OF DECEMBER 1963,IF NOT EOKA REMNANTS????????

[Paphitis]

..., and Bananiot offered some very clear and concise factual information,

Based on which sources?

This thread is about disproving the TC myth that Yorgadjis was a menacing TC eating killer.

Has it changed direction now? I thought this thread was about your ignorance and stupidity!

I believe the objective has been fulfilled since Bananiot and Bir haven't offered any credible evidence to prove otherwise.

Contradicting yourself again eh? Didn't even last a minute!

How’s the stew coming along Paphitis?

[Get Real!]

..., and Bananiot offered some very clear and concise factual information,

Based on which sources?

This thread is about disproving the TC myth that Yorgadjis was a menacing TC eating killer.

Has it changed direction now? I thought this thread was about your ignorance and stupidity!

I believe the objective has been fulfilled since Bananiot and Bir haven't offered any credible evidence to prove otherwise.

Contradicting yourself again eh? Didn't even last a minute!

How’s the stew coming along Paphitis?

They’re running circles around you and nobody’s coming to save you Paphitis…

Recipe of the week:

Paphitis' Juice --> Boil --> Australian Stew!

[Paphitis]

Bananiot,
The TC belief was that Yorgadjis was the most fanatical EOKA member,and later on ,as minister for Interiror,he was the operational head of the EOKA remnants...He was thus despised and feared...Do you believe this was the case???

The above are just TC myths and exaggerations. Yorgadjis yielded much power and influence within the Makarios cabinet, but was never more influential over former EOKA members than Grivas and Makarios themselves. There were no EOKA remnants. The organisation did not exist. There were many former EOKA fighters who were rewarded with positions of High Office or became senior public servants.

There was only the CNG and Cyprus Police, who were under the command of Makarios, followed by Yorgadjis and Grivas. TMT strongholds at Kophinou and Kokkina were attacked by the CNG, for blocking the Nicosia to Limassol highway at Kophinou and for Turkish arms smuggling in Kokkina. Even after weeks of CNG and police patrols being attacked, Makarios hesitated and did not want to attack the TMT. Eventually CNG personnel were killed from TMT ambush along the highway, and so Makarios was left with no other choice. The strongholds were reluctantly attacked, and this is what the TMT wanted.

Yes BIR, TMT kept ambushing ROC CNG and police, some were killed, and then the ROC attacked back.

You still refuse to answer my question...There was no CNG in 1963,the two sides could NOT come to an agreement between 1960 -63 to form it...So,
WHO WERE THE GC PARAMILITARIES WHO WERE ATTACKING MY ENCLAVE IN NICOSIA AT THE END OF DECEMBER 1963,IF NOT EOKA REMNANTS????????

They were Yorgadjis plain clothed Special Constables who clashed with Turkish Cypriot crowds. They were Police Officers and were on the RoC's pay roll! There was no EOKA paramilitary in 1963.

And the incident occurred on the 21 Dec 1963!

Yorgadjis was Interior minister at the time!

Minister of the Interior
In office
16 Aug 1960 – 1 Nov 1968

[Oracle]

Bananiot,
The TC belief was that Yorgadjis was the most fanatical EOKA member,and later on ,as minister for Interiror,he was the operational head of the EOKA remnants...He was thus despised and feared...Do you believe this was the case???

The above are just TC myths and exaggerations. Yorgadjis yielded much power and influence within the Makarios cabinet, but was never more influential over former EOKA members than Grivas and Makarios themselves. There were no EOKA remnants. The organisation did not exist. There were many former EOKA fighters who were rewarded with positions of High Office or became senior public servants.

There was only the CNG and Cyprus Police, who were under the command of Makarios, followed by Yorgadjis and Grivas. TMT strongholds at Kophinou and Kokkina were attacked by the CNG, for blocking the Nicosia to Limassol highway at Kophinou and for Turkish arms smuggling in Kokkina. Even after weeks of CNG and police patrols being attacked, Makarios hesitated and did not want to attack the TMT. Eventually CNG personnel were killed from TMT ambush along the highway, and so Makarios was left with no other choice. The strongholds were reluctantly attacked, and this is what the TMT wanted.

Yes BIR, TMT kept ambushing ROC CNG and police, some were killed, and then the ROC attacked back.

You still refuse to answer my question...There was no CNG in 1963,the two sides could NOT come to an agreement between 1960 -63 to form it...So,
WHO WERE THE GC PARAMILITARIES WHO WERE ATTACKING MY ENCLAVE IN NICOSIA AT THE END OF DECEMBER 1963,IF NOT EOKA REMNANTS????????

Here we go again, you self-serving Turk.

The TCs disrupted governmental processes, organised illegal gangs of TMT with their own insurgent army, prepared enclaves to assist the partition of Cyprus and then you have the audacity to complain if our ministers defend the territorial integrity of the Republic of Cyprus by organising a Greek Cypriot defence!

[Paphitis]

..., and Bananiot offered some very clear and concise factual information,

Based on which sources?

This thread is about disproving the TC myth that Yorgadjis was a menacing TC eating killer.

Has it changed direction now? I thought this thread was about your ignorance and stupidity!

I believe the objective has been fulfilled since Bananiot and Bir haven't offered any credible evidence to prove otherwise.

Contradicting yourself again eh? Didn't even last a minute!

How’s the stew coming along Paphitis?

They’re running circles around you and nobody’s coming to save you Paphitis…

Recipe of the week:

Paphitis' Juice --> Boil --> Australian Stew!

[Get Real!]

It's just about ready...