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Postby YFred » Sun Apr 11, 2010 12:11 pm

Oracle wrote:
runaway wrote:
Oracle wrote:Now get out of Cyprus!


rum yalakalarına tokat gibi cevap! :lol: Bravo Oracle. Would you like dirty rum in exile kakapouros to stay whereever he is?


Kikapu is a Turkish Cypriot with democratic, law-abiding principles and is 100% entitled to live and prosper in Cyprus (indeed, welcomed in any civilised country) as any other native or RoC-legalised migrant.

Accept in London, he wouldn't dare appear in a certain solicitors office. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby YFred » Sun Apr 11, 2010 12:15 pm

Oracle wrote:
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YFred wrote:I seem to remember the radio speech of Makarios when he said he will throw all the turks into the sea.


Firstly, moronic Turk-dirt ... you have to provide some evidence that Makarios made such a statement, you lying Turk!


Where is your evidence for the above, you f*ckwit!


C'mon you blundering Turk!

Where is the evidence?


How many times is runaway going to cover for you running away?

Honest gov I never run away from nobody. I did hear it clear as a bell from the church on the Stavros hill.

It was just after one of the episodes of Frosu and Tovli.
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Postby YFred » Sun Apr 11, 2010 12:20 pm

Get Real! wrote:
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halil wrote:The Turkish Cypriots were forced to withdraw into defended enclaves, and it was therefore in January 1964, not in 1974, that Cyprus was divided. On 14 January 1964 "Il Giorno" of Italy reported: "Right now we are witnessing the exodus of Turkish Cypriots from the villages. Thousands of people abandoning homes, land, herds. Greek Cypriot terrorism is relentless. This time the rhetoric of the Hellenes and the statues of Plato do not cover up their barbaric and ferocious behaviour." The Turkish Cypriots had to establish an elected authority to govern themselves whilst confined in their enclaves.

Where is GR and Oracle who claimed that the TCs forced themselves into the enclaves. You are Prize arses.

The above rubbish was written by Michael Stephen who worked for a "think tank" company who had Turkey for a customer. The idea was for him to manufacture stories in Turkey’s favor in return for a fee.

The source of what Halil quoted is here…

http://www.tcn-cy.freeuk.com/m-stephen.htm

…and here…

http://www.ataa.org/reference/trnc/genocide_trnc.html

We have covered Michael Stephen dozens of times, but people like you and Halil aren't very bright so chances are you'll quote him again one or two months later!

I’m sure you’re both nice guys in real life (I know Halil personally anyway) but let’s face it… neither of you should be posting in the CyProb! Image

So what we witnessed couldn't been happening then? we just made it up.
GR Lurucina had refugees from 6 surrounding villages from 1963 to 74.
What the fuck are you talking about? Who gives a shit what Michael or Shmichael wrote.
When will you get it into your thick head that these were Cypriots driven from their homes. You should be ashamed of yourself. You call yourself a Cyptriot.
Yeah right.
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Postby runaway » Sun Apr 11, 2010 12:40 pm

Oracle wrote:
runaway wrote:
Oracle wrote:Now get out of Cyprus!


rum yalakalarına tokat gibi cevap! :lol: Bravo Oracle. Would you like dirty rum in exile kakapouros to stay whereever he is?


Kikapu is a Turkish Cypriot with democratic, law-abiding principles and is 100% entitled to live and prosper in Cyprus (indeed, welcomed in any civilised country) as any other native or RoC-legalised migrant.


denizrumyalakası is not? :lol:
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Postby Bananiot » Sun Apr 11, 2010 12:57 pm

The title of this thread is "Who was Yiorgadjis". Can we for once stick to the subject? The photo below shows Yiorgadjis with Denktash just after the assassination of Hikmet and Yurkan by the thugs of TMT, probably acting under orders from Denktash.

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The two Turkish Cypriot journalists and lawyers, who supported the peaceful coexistence of the two communities, were murdered on April 23, 1962. Yurkan as soon as he parked his car and Hikmet while he was in bed with his wife. In the same room his tow children were asleep. Denktash was considered the chief suspect and he was actually asked to go to the police for questioning. He never did. However, the murders were on purpose linked with the bombs that went off at TC mosques on March 25 1962 in Nicosia.

Tow days after the explosions. Yurkan visited the Turkish Embassy in Nicosia. The Ambassador (Dirvana) was well known for his support to Inonu and moderate policies in general. There, he was informed that the bombs were planted by TC extremists.

Where does Yiorgadjis come into all these, you may ask. Yurkan and Hikmet (remember, they were true Cypriots) met Yiorgadjis, who was the Minister of Internal Affairs, and passed on to him the information they obtained from the Turkish Embassy. The wily Yiorgadjis secretly recorded the talk they had.

The ad hoc committee (made up of two judges, one GC one TC under the supreme judge Wilson) that was set up to investigate the murder of Hikmet and Yurkan called, among others, Yorgadjis for questioning. Yorgadjis lied to the committee. He claimed that Yurkan was afraid of his life and that he asked Yiorgadjis to record the meeting they had. He then handed over the tape which was heard publicly for the first time. Denktash actually cross questioned Yiorgadjis at one of the meetings of the ad hoc committee. The whole process, question-answer are documented in Phileleftheros 25-05-1962.

Yiorgadjis gave valuable weapons to the TC extremists. After the answers he gave to the committee, the TC newspapers were portrayed as traitors and agents of Yiorgadjis. One huge title of the time read: Yiorgadjis Reveals that Yurkan Passed on Secrets of the Turkish Embasy to the GC Leadership". The two murders journalists were branded as paid agents of the GC's and traitors that gave away everything to the GC's in order to enjoy their support (any similarities to the bash patriots of the forum should not be taken seriously).

Immediately after the murders the TC's in their vast majority felt sick with Denktash. Thanks to Yiorgadjis, Denktash came out of this stronger. In fact the political future of Denktash was on line after the murders but Yiorgadjis made sure that his old pal, that got him released from the British prison during the EOKA struggle, survived and even gained political points.

These events simply highlight the fact that the TC and GC nationalist worked hand in hand to destroy Cyprus.
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Postby YFred » Sun Apr 11, 2010 1:12 pm

Thanks for that Bananiot, I knew about the cooporation of the extremists on both sides, just did not realise how high and how far it went. God, we had no chance at all.

Why did Yorgadjis want Sampson Killed?

The interesting thing is that the patriots on this forum are also on the side of Eroglu. Some people will never learn.
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Postby Bananiot » Sun Apr 11, 2010 6:57 pm

February 10 1962, Limassol

Yiorgadjis was the guest speaker at the opening of the centre of the Association of EOKA fighters in Limassol District. He spoke for a new struggle for the realisation of national aspirations. Tasos Papadopoulos and Spyros Kyprianou were also present. The struggle of EOKA, he boasted, is not over but it continues with different means until the aspitations of our people are realised. The land in Cyprus, he added, has been Greek since the beginning of history. The Ottomans have disappeared from every single part of Europe except Cyprus, he noted. He called upon the EOKA fighters to struggle with faith, optimism and unity for the final realisation of our dream.

The Turkish Cypriot Ministers held an impromptu meeting and condemned the speech that publicly "offended the Turkish nation and the Turkish Cypriot community in Cyprus". Never before, anywhere else in the world, they said, a Minister sworn to uphold the Constitution, has tried so hard to undo the Constitution.

The above from "Mahi" newspaper, 11-2-1962
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Postby halil » Sun Apr 11, 2010 8:33 pm

Haravgi 7 February 1999

Extracts from an interview given by Father Andreas Stephanides, first printed in Haravgi on 19/4/1994:

There is no resident of Nicosia of a certain age group who would not remember Father Stephanides during the 1960s, who would ascend the pulpit after the holy liturgy at St. Anthony's church, later on at Phaneromeni and wherever else he could, cry out against the murderers of his son Yiannakis Stephanides and ask for justice. During the reign of Yiorgadjis, when his dreaded revengeful anger shadowed and crushed them all, Father Stephanides would shout into his face "Murderer, where are you keeping my son?" He used to lower his head, he says in his interview, and "Never did he look at me in the eyes. Neither did the other murderers who are dignitaries with titles today".
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Postby Bananiot » Sun Apr 11, 2010 9:03 pm

Just to clarify that Andreas Stephanides was a priest. He was interviewed by Takis Hadjigeorgiou for his successful tv show "xwris plaisia" some years ago and his story stirred public opinion so much that RIK put an end to the show a little later. He died some years back.
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Postby BirKibrisli » Mon Apr 12, 2010 12:13 am

Bananiot wrote:February 10 1962, Limassol

Yiorgadjis was the guest speaker at the opening of the centre of the Association of EOKA fighters in Limassol District. He spoke for a new struggle for the realisation of national aspirations. Tasos Papadopoulos and Spyros Kyprianou were also present. The struggle of EOKA, he boasted, is not over but it continues with different means until the aspitations of our people are realised. The land in Cyprus, he added, has been Greek since the beginning of history. The Ottomans have disappeared from every single part of Europe except Cyprus, he noted. He called upon the EOKA fighters to struggle with faith, optimism and unity for the final realisation of our dream.

The Turkish Cypriot Ministers held an impromptu meeting and condemned the speech that publicly "offended the Turkish nation and the Turkish Cypriot community in Cyprus". Never before, anywhere else in the world, they said, a Minister sworn to uphold the Constitution, has tried so hard to undo the Constitution.

The above from "Mahi" newspaper, 11-2-1962


This is where Piratis must be getting his inspiration from...Yiorgadjis' struggle to make Cyprus a Greek republic lives on in many hearts...This time by modern means of democracy and human rights masks.... :wink:
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