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[Paphitis]

Spring is saddest time of year for Armenians

by Christopher Hitchens – Calgary Herald

http://cyprus.com/?p=284

[kafenes]

[aussieturk]

There was no Genocide,

sure there wasent, a few turks die = a kind of genocide.. the turks kill millions of armenians,, not even murder

many people die in war

Shows what you know. During WW1, Millions of Turks died trying to save the last piece of land left to defend. The Turks were being attached from every corner of the country, including by Armenians.

The armenians were asked to leave after the war and marched out, so a few died thats not genocide.

[boomerang]

The armenians were asked to leave after the war and marched out, so a few died thats not genocide.

asked to leave?...and marched out?...a few died?

wtf how old are you?...

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=29399&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

the least you can do is keep your mouth shut rather than opening it and removing all doubt...idiot

[Gasman]

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/apr/24/nation/la-na-obama-armenians-20100425

Despite pressure from activists and lawmakers, President Obama on Saturday again refused to declare the 1915 mass killings of Armenians a genocide.

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The United States relies on Turkey as a transit point for equipment for U.S. troops in the region. Turkey is also currently a rotating member of the United Nations Security Council, and the Obama administration badly wants its vote of support for a pending resolution to impose additional sanctions on Iran to limit its nuclear activities.

[denizaksulu]

There was no Genocide,

sure there wasent, a few turks die = a kind of genocide.. the turks kill millions of armenians,, not even murder

many people die in war

Shows what you know. During WW1, Millions of Turks died trying to save the last piece of land left to defend. The Turks were being attached from every corner of the country, including by Armenians.

The armenians were asked to leave after the war and marched out, so a few died thats not genocide.

1916? Is that when WWI ended?

[kafenes]

http://www.azatutyun.am/content/article/2023499.html

[GreekForumer]

Paphitis,

I've mentioned the issue of Australian recognition of the Armenian Genocide on another forum.

NZ, and Australia for that matter, will never recognise the AG because the Turkish government will force us to choose between AG recognition and the Anzac cove commemorations in Turkey every 25th April.


http://forum.hyeclub.com/showthread.php?t=18476

But you, Paphitis, have been a member(?) of the Australian armed forces and your participation in Anzac day commemorations must have been quite involved during your service. Do you think Australians would trade Anzac Cove commemorations for official Armenian Genocide recognition ?

Paphitis,
here is a test for Australia.

NZ caught in Gallipoli stoush

New Zealand has reportedly been caught up in a stoush between Australia and Turkey about a monument built in Sydney to remember the alleged Assyrian genocide during World War 1.

Plans for a major archaeological survey of the Gallipoli battlegrounds have been put on hold due to the argument, Radio New Zealand reports.

Archaeologists from New Zealand, Australia and Turkey were supposed to start work next Friday, to provide detailed information about military sites at Gallipoli.

But Turkey is withholding cooperation because it objects to the monument, alleging genocide of Turkey's Assyrian minority during and after World War I, Radio New Zealand reports.

Turkey says it does not want to block the survey of Gallipoli, but concedes it could be delayed while the dispute with Australia is sorted out.

The work was supposed to begin next Thursday.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/europe/4177838/NZ-caught-in-Gallipoli-stoush

[bigOz]

Ode to all the mindless stupid fanatics perpetuating false claims about the so called non-existent Armenian "Genocide"(???)

Historic fact No. 1:
see:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... _d1914.png

1914 official census listing population of Muslim, Greek and Armenians adds up the total number of Armenians living in Turkey to just under 1,200,000

Of these, only about 450,000 lived in the conflict area of Eastern Anatolia occupied by French, and got actively involved in the massacre of Kurds and Turks alike prior to anything else (Trabzon, Sivas, Erzurum, Kharput, Bitlis, Van, Diyarbakır, Kharpout, Marash etc).

So where the fuck the 2,000,000 Armenians existed to be massacred in that area?

Historic fact No. 2:
First Turkish Republic Census was held in 1927.
It was established that there were 123,602 Armenians residing in Turkey.

1931 French census showed 35, 000 Armenians (not originally born in France.

Canadian records show that 1,244 Armenians had come from Turkey between 1912 and 1914 (Imre Ferenczi, International Migration, Vol. 1, New York, 1929, p. 891).

In the same period, 34,136 Armenians emigrated to the United States, all of them from Turkey (Robert Mirak, Armenian Emigration to the U.S. to 1915).

In 1928, the number of Armenians who emigrated to Greece was 42,200 (League of Nations A. 33-1927).

The Bulgarian statistics record that in 1920 there were 10,848, and in 1926, 25,402 Gregorian Armenians (Annuaire statistique du Royaume de Bulgarie, 1931, p. 35). It is apparent that the difference of 15,000 Armenians came from Turkey.

Again according to the statistics of the League of Nations, 2,500 Armenians went to Cyprus.

Hovannisian gives the number of Armenians who emigrated to the Arab countries and Iran in the following list (‘The Ebb and Flow of the Armenian Minority in the Arab Middle East’, Middle East Journal, Vol. 28, No. 1(Winter 1974), p. 20):
Syria 100,000
Lebanon 50,000
Jordan 10,000
Egypt 40,000
Iraq 25,000
Iran 50,000 (TOTAL = 275,000)

Dr. Fridtjof Nansen’s (1861-1930) report states that, according to the League of Nations Emigrants’ Committee, the number of Armenians who emigrated during the First World War from Turkey to Russia was between 400,000 and 420,000. This figure is the number of Armenians who emigrated from Turkey, and who were living in Russia at the end of the war.

Grand total of 950,000 Armenians out of 1,200,000 living in Turkey officially accounted for! Taking into account the well known fact - thousands of Armenians died due to ill health when fleeing with the French in sub zero temperatures, total who died were around 200,000...
Now! Can anyone provide any historic facts to contradict the above figures and/or confirm the imaginary 2,000,000 figure?

FINALLY! Historic fact No. 3:
The Armenians who were massacred were not massacred on the orders of the Government. The culprits who were arrested were sent to the courts, were given sentences, including the death sentence, and the sentences were carried out.

Were the Armenians who massacred the Turks had also been punished? In Armenian books, they are portrayed as national heroes!
Quote from an anti-Turkish book. Hassan Arfa writes:

When the Russian armies invaded Turkey after the Sarikamish disaster of 1914, their columns were preceded by battalions of irregular Armenian volunteers, both from the Caucasus and from Turkey. One of these was commanded by a certain Andranik, a bloodthirsty adventurer. These Armenian volunteers, in order to avenge their compatriots who had been massacred by the Kurds, committed all kinds of excesses, more than six hundred thousand Kurds being killed between 1915 and 1916 in the eastern vilayets of Turkey.

Armenian genocide MY ARSE!!!