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[boomerang]

Yes,I personally believe there was an atempted genocide against the Armenians,but not by the Turks,but by the Ottomans...Talat Pasha,who is considered by most historians to be the person who planned it was ethnically Turkish...But we cannot tarnish all Turks with the genocide brush which is unfortunately what certain people are trying to do now....I think it is being disrespectful to the memory of the victims to try to use it for political gain by third parties...

That's right Bir, everyone else does the dirty work and poor old Turkey gets the blame for it every time. Fifty years of mistreatment to the Armenians and you blame one Talat Pasha for it. Where was the Turkish government when they marched the Armenians off their land and killed them, playing tavli?

Kafenes, there was no attempt. It happened.

Yfred, it was an attempt or else I wouldn't be here right now.

My question is very simple, why have everybody ignored the previous one.

If I robbed a bank and went to court, I couldn't excuse myself by saying 'why did you ignore the previous bank robber and you're trying me now?'. This court case is against the Armenians. You want to start another case against the previous one, go ahead and start one but don't excuse this one because of that.

Not if the new robber is robbing the previous robber. The turks rightly or wrongly always associated the Armenians and Russians to be the same. Was no Armeninans involved with the russinas in the previous one. I am only trying to understand why humans behave the way they do. They don't just one day decide to kill their neighbour, except in Oracle DT and GR's case of course. There are exception to every rule.

pou tin mia malakia stin alli malakia...what?...

[DT.]

Yes,I personally believe there was an atempted genocide against the Armenians,but not by the Turks,but by the Ottomans...Talat Pasha,who is considered by most historians to be the person who planned it was ethnically Turkish...But we cannot tarnish all Turks with the genocide brush which is unfortunately what certain people are trying to do now....I think it is being disrespectful to the memory of the victims to try to use it for political gain by third parties...

That's right Bir, everyone else does the dirty work and poor old Turkey gets the blame for it every time. Fifty years of mistreatment to the Armenians and you blame one Talat Pasha for it. Where was the Turkish government when they marched the Armenians off their land and killed them, playing tavli?

Kafenes, there was no attempt. It happened.

Yfred, it was an attempt or else I wouldn't be here right now.

My question is very simple, why have everybody ignored the previous one.

If I robbed a bank and went to court, I couldn't excuse myself by saying 'why did you ignore the previous bank robber and you're trying me now?'. This court case is against the Armenians. You want to start another case against the previous one, go ahead and start one but don't excuse this one because of that.

Not if the new robber is robbing the previous robber. The turks rightly or wrongly always associated the Armenians and Russians to be the same. Was no Armeninans involved with the russinas in the previous one. I am only trying to understand why humans behave the way they do. They don't just one day decide to kill their neighbour, except in Oracle DT and GR's case of course. There are exception to every rule.

pou tin mia malakia stin alli malakia...what?...

Yfred's having those haunting dreams again with gc kids he murdered back in the good ol' days.

[BirKibrisli]

The TCs had the backing of UK and Turkey and they knew this very well. If they didn't have the encouragement and support of Turkey and UK they would not be able to do what they did. The how the TCs started the conflict in 1958 is well recorded, as is the how Turkey started the war in 1974.

Greece is not a foreign country to the vast majority of Cypriot people. Cyprus is a separate country not because this is what the Cypriot people choose, but because this is what served the interests of the foreign Imperialists whose interests you are serving.

And your hypocrisy continues. Now you even threaten us for taking away our whole island because you want to make every single innocent Greek Cypriot to "pay the price" for a past conflict which was initiated by you.

And then you tell us that the Turks should not even apologize (let alone pay the price) for a genocide of millions!!!

So we should apologize and pay the price...
The Turks, despite starting the conflicts, the wars and commiting the worst kinds of genocides and ethnic cleansings, should not recognize their crimes, should not apologize, should not pay the price but they should instead by rewarded on the expense of the human and democratic rights of their victims!!

No matter what you say,Piratis,the fact remains ,without your bloodyminded and foolhardy demand for Enosis with Greece,recent history of Cyprus would be wastly different...You know that as well,but your fanatical mind will not allow you to say it...It is easier to blame the weak and defenceless minority for all that befallen on your arrogant head...

I know the role of the imperialists in our conflict very well...It was they who dragged Turkey kicking and screaming into the equation mid 50s...But the fact remains without ENOSIS they and Turkey could do very little to advance their ambitions....When you accept this fact we can move forward , trying to find a just solution....

And please do not put words in my mouth...Nowhere did I say Turkey should not apologise for the Armenian calamity...I know little about that sensitive issue,and what little I know leeds me to believe something terrible has happened in the dying years of the Otoman empire...I believe Turkey and Armenia should be allowed to sort it out amongst themselves...Without opportunistic Turk-haters like yourself trying to use those poor people's fate for your own selfish ends....

[BirKibrisli]

Yes,I personally believe there was an atempted genocide against the Armenians,but not by the Turks,but by the Ottomans...Talat Pasha,who is considered by most historians to be the person who planned it was ethnically Turkish...But we cannot tarnish all Turks with the genocide brush which is unfortunately what certain people are trying to do now....I think it is being disrespectful to the memory of the victims to try to use it for political gain by third parties...

That's right Bir, everyone else does the dirty work and poor old Turkey gets the blame for it every time. Fifty years of mistreatment to the Armenians and you blame one Talat Pasha for it. Where was the Turkish government when they marched the Armenians off their land and killed them, playing tavli?

Kafenes, there was no attempt. It happened.

Yfred, it was an attempt or else I wouldn't be here right now.

My question is very simple, why have everybody ignored the previous one.

If I robbed a bank and went to court, I couldn't excuse myself by saying 'why did you ignore the previous bank robber and you're trying me now?'. This court case is against the Armenians. You want to start another case against the previous one, go ahead and start one but don't excuse this one because of that.

It is understandable,kafenes,that you are very emotional on this subject...
As a TC I know the feeling of being at the receiving end of gross injustice for being who you are....But it is a historical fact that those events took place under the Ottoman Empire..There was no Turkish government in those days...I am not trying to sweep the terrible tragedy under the carpet...I am saying things are not as simple as some people want to present them for their own selfish reasons....And you cannot blame the entire Turkish race today for an act of barbarity commited by a headless government of an Empire abolished by the founder of the present Turkish Republic...Lets wait and see what the Turkish and Armenian governments will come up with...The Armenian victims,like all victims deserve justice and respect...Without creating more injustice and prejudice along the way...

[DTA]

I really dont know much about what happened, I have read some about the Turkish version of events and thanks to Armenian cypriot who pointed me in the right direction I have also read some about the Armenia version of events.

I think it is undeniable that something terrible happened, but if that was genocide I am not sure, I have to ask the question and I do so without meaning any offense just seeking understanding, why does Armenia not support an independant historical commission on the events?

Surely if this commission finds the ottomans guilty of genocide then there can be no more claiming that it was not an act of genocide?

[Piratis]

The TCs had the backing of UK and Turkey and they knew this very well. If they didn't have the encouragement and support of Turkey and UK they would not be able to do what they did. The how the TCs started the conflict in 1958 is well recorded, as is the how Turkey started the war in 1974.

Greece is not a foreign country to the vast majority of Cypriot people. Cyprus is a separate country not because this is what the Cypriot people choose, but because this is what served the interests of the foreign Imperialists whose interests you are serving.

And your hypocrisy continues. Now you even threaten us for taking away our whole island because you want to make every single innocent Greek Cypriot to "pay the price" for a past conflict which was initiated by you.

And then you tell us that the Turks should not even apologize (let alone pay the price) for a genocide of millions!!!

So we should apologize and pay the price...
The Turks, despite starting the conflicts, the wars and commiting the worst kinds of genocides and ethnic cleansings, should not recognize their crimes, should not apologize, should not pay the price but they should instead by rewarded on the expense of the human and democratic rights of their victims!!

No matter what you say,Piratis,the fact remains ,without your bloodyminded and foolhardy demand for Enosis with Greece,recent history of Cyprus would be wastly different...You know that as well,but your fanatical mind will not allow you to say it...

Bir, revolutions do not always succeed. The fact that the two foreign Imperialists have managed to defeat our revolution for freedom is not something that shows that the revolution of the Cypriot people was wrong. These are the usual tactics of the Imperialists. They threaten the oppressed people that if they dare to revolt seeking their rights that they will oppress them even more.

Here is an example from 1821:

"During the Greek War of Independence in 1821, the Ottoman authorities feared that Greek Cypriots would rebel again. Archbishop Kyprianos, a powerful leader who worked to improve the education of Greek Cypriot children, was accused of plotting against the government. Kyprianos, his bishops, and hundreds of priests and important laymen were arrested and summarily hanged or decapitated on July 9, 1821."

Of course if we were the "good slaves" type then the history of Cyprus would be very different. We would all speak Turkish by now and Cyprus would be part of Turkey. But we are not that type. We will fight for freedom and our right to determine the destiny of our own island in a democratic way until we achieve what is right and just.

It is easier to blame the weak and defenceless minority for all that befallen on your arrogant head...

The Turks are neither weak nor defenseless. The oppression of the Turks against the Cypriot people which started in 1571 and continues until today (they stopped oppressing us only for 80 years) is a testimony to this fact. The TCs in Cyprus have never been a separate entity from those in Turkey. Just like all other Turks they have been part of the Turkish population controlled directly by Ankara and serving the Turkish Interests. This continues today.

I know the role of the imperialists in our conflict very well...It was they who dragged Turkey kicking and screaming into the equation mid 50s...But the fact remains without ENOSIS they and Turkey could do very little to advance their ambitions....When you accept this fact we can move forward , trying to find a just solution....

Let me ask you Bir ... when we were about to join the EU Turkey was furious saying that we had no right to do this and she was threatening us. If at that point Turkey had invaded and occupied the whole Cyprus in order to prevent Cyprus from uniting with EU, what would that show? That the Cypriot people were wrong for seeking what was their right? Or that the Turks are barbarian criminals who do not respect the rights of the Cypriot people?

You telling me that the Turks did what they did to prevent us from achieving our freedom and self-determination is no excuse for what the Turks did. We are not going to do everything that Turkey demands just so to avoid the possibility of being punished by the barbarian Turks.

And please do not put words in my mouth...Nowhere did I say Turkey should not apologise for the Armenian calamity...I know little about that sensitive issue,and what little I know leeds me to believe something terrible has happened in the dying years of the Otoman empire...I believe Turkey and Armenia should be allowed to sort it out amongst themselves...Without opportunistic Turk-haters like yourself trying to use those poor people's fate for your own selfish ends....

You mean in the way Turkey is using the dispute between us in order to advance her own selfish ends? Why can Turkey support you and we can not support our Armenian brothers?

And about the "Turk-hater" part I repeat: I hate only those who support the violations of my human and democratic rights and I am perfectly justified to do so.

[BirKibrisli]

The TCs had the backing of UK and Turkey and they knew this very well. If they didn't have the encouragement and support of Turkey and UK they would not be able to do what they did. The how the TCs started the conflict in 1958 is well recorded, as is the how Turkey started the war in 1974.

Greece is not a foreign country to the vast majority of Cypriot people. Cyprus is a separate country not because this is what the Cypriot people choose, but because this is what served the interests of the foreign Imperialists whose interests you are serving.

And your hypocrisy continues. Now you even threaten us for taking away our whole island because you want to make every single innocent Greek Cypriot to "pay the price" for a past conflict which was initiated by you.

And then you tell us that the Turks should not even apologize (let alone pay the price) for a genocide of millions!!!

So we should apologize and pay the price...
The Turks, despite starting the conflicts, the wars and commiting the worst kinds of genocides and ethnic cleansings, should not recognize their crimes, should not apologize, should not pay the price but they should instead by rewarded on the expense of the human and democratic rights of their victims!!

No matter what you say,Piratis,the fact remains ,without your bloodyminded and foolhardy demand for Enosis with Greece,recent history of Cyprus would be wastly different...You know that as well,but your fanatical mind will not allow you to say it...

Bir, revolutions do not always succeed. The fact that the two foreign Imperialists have managed to defeat our revolution for freedom is not something that shows that the revolution of the Cypriot people was wrong. These are the usual tactics of the Imperialists. They threaten the oppressed people that if they dare to revolt seeking their rights that they will oppress them even more.

Here is an example from 1821:

"During the Greek War of Independence in 1821, the Ottoman authorities feared that Greek Cypriots would rebel again. Archbishop Kyprianos, a powerful leader who worked to improve the education of Greek Cypriot children, was accused of plotting against the government. Kyprianos, his bishops, and hundreds of priests and important laymen were arrested and summarily hanged or decapitated on July 9, 1821."

Of course if we were the "good slaves" type then the history of Cyprus would be very different. We would all speak Turkish by now and Cyprus would be part of Turkey. But we are not that type. We will fight for freedom and our right to determine the destiny of our own island in a democratic way until we achieve what is right and just.

It is easier to blame the weak and defenceless minority for all that befallen on your arrogant head...

The Turks are neither weak nor defenseless. The oppression of the Turks against the Cypriot people which started in 1571 and continues until today (they stopped oppressing us only for 80 years) is a testimony to this fact. The TCs in Cyprus have never been a separate entity from those in Turkey. Just like all other Turks they have been part of the Turkish population controlled directly by Ankara and serving the Turkish Interests. This continues today.

I know the role of the imperialists in our conflict very well...It was they who dragged Turkey kicking and screaming into the equation mid 50s...But the fact remains without ENOSIS they and Turkey could do very little to advance their ambitions....When you accept this fact we can move forward , trying to find a just solution....

Let me ask you Bir ... when we were about to join the EU Turkey was furious saying that we had no right to do this and she was threatening us. If at that point Turkey had invaded and occupied the whole Cyprus in order to prevent Cyprus from uniting with EU, what would that show? That the Cypriot people were wrong for seeking what was their right? Or that the Turks are barbarian criminals who do not respect the rights of the Cypriot people?

You telling me that the Turks did what they did to prevent us from achieving our freedom and self-determination is no excuse for what the Turks did. We are not going to do everything that Turkey demands just so to avoid the possibility of being punished by the barbarian Turks.

And please do not put words in my mouth...Nowhere did I say Turkey should not apologise for the Armenian calamity...I know little about that sensitive issue,and what little I know leeds me to believe something terrible has happened in the dying years of the Otoman empire...I believe Turkey and Armenia should be allowed to sort it out amongst themselves...Without opportunistic Turk-haters like yourself trying to use those poor people's fate for your own selfish ends....

You mean in the way Turkey is using the dispute between us in order to advance her own selfish ends? Why can Turkey support you and we can not support our Armenian brothers?

And about the "Turk-hater" part I repeat: I hate only those who support the violations of my human and democratic rights and I am perfectly justified to do so.

I see...
so you still believe that nothing was wrong with Enosis with Greece dream of yours...You refuse to acknowledge the role that stubborn dream played in the Cyprus problem of recent times...Presumably you still believe that Cyprus should be part of Greece,it is only logical if you think Cyprus is a Greek island...So your argument for democracy and human rights today is a smokescreen to trick Turkey the TCs and the world...Pretty much like back in 1960 when you signed the independence agreement and went about achieving Enosis by hook or by crook...I want to thank you for your honesty...I do not think the TCs and Turkey would be fooled by you and your fellow fanatics...Have a nice time dreaming about Enosis with Greece...The TCs will just get on with their lives the best way they can...They don't need to worry about the dreaded Enosis monster once again...They are absolutely right in insisting on Turkey's guarantee in any viable solution...They would be bonkers to trust your kind once again...Enjoy your Partition too...You have worked hard for it...

[Paphitis]

There was no Genocide,

The jury is out on that,but I am amazed the lunatic Paphidis now wnats to pollute the waters between Australia's largely harmonious multicultural population by dragging this dispute all the way to Australia...There is no limit to his stupidity...He must have nothing but hatred and bitterness in his heart towards Turkey and the Turkish people...What a despicable excuse for a human being!!!

Yes, Im afriad to say you are spot on. If you read his posts form day one it is clear that this Paphidis detests everything which contains an ounce of Turkish and he will drag up any subject past or present to use as a tool for his hatred. A sad case for a human being. I've actually stopped reading his posts beacuse he is so predictable.

The Armenian issue is a very sensitive one...It should be left to the Turkish and Armenian governments to work out a way of resolving it amongst themselves...It is undeniable that something terrible happened to a very large number of Armenians back around the demise of the Ottoman Empire...The victims of that calamity should be shown utmost respect and their plight should be investigated and acknowledged for whatever it was...Third parties,around the world, are showing callous disrespect for these people by dragging them into their own disputes which has nothing to do with the Armenian situation...They should be ashamed of themselves...

Why are we and the rest of the world pre-occupied with the Armenian Genocide as bad it was and totally ignore The Circassian Genocide just before the Armenian one which affected 3 million muslims from Russia.

http://www.circassianworld.com/new/war- ... inger.html

Has the world gone mad?

Sorry,YFred,but I refuse to look at yet another potential genocide...My sanity is at risk here...And,YES< the world has gone bonkers>

Sorry about that and all that. Perhaps some of our GC patriotic cousins have the stomach for it.
We shall see said the blind man.

What does this have to do with the subject of Armenian Genocide? You seem to be good at trying to turn the subject around to change it. To Yfred and Bir, I ask you this, do you personaly beleive there was an attempted genocide against the Armenians by the Turks? Yes or no?

Yes,I personally believe there was an atempted genocide against the Armenians,but not by the Turks,but by the Ottomans...Talat Pasha,who is considered by most historians to be the person who planned it was ethnically Turkish...But we cannot tarnish all Turks with the genocide brush which is unfortunately what certain people are trying to do now....I think it is being disrespectful to the memory of the victims to try to use it for political gain by third parties...

Courtesy of Boomerang!

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... sc&start=0

So stop making a fool of yourself and beat it, scum bag Turk!

[BirKibrisli]

There was no Genocide,

The jury is out on that,but I am amazed the lunatic Paphidis now wnats to pollute the waters between Australia's largely harmonious multicultural population by dragging this dispute all the way to Australia...There is no limit to his stupidity...He must have nothing but hatred and bitterness in his heart towards Turkey and the Turkish people...What a despicable excuse for a human being!!!

Yes, Im afriad to say you are spot on. If you read his posts form day one it is clear that this Paphidis detests everything which contains an ounce of Turkish and he will drag up any subject past or present to use as a tool for his hatred. A sad case for a human being. I've actually stopped reading his posts beacuse he is so predictable.

The Armenian issue is a very sensitive one...It should be left to the Turkish and Armenian governments to work out a way of resolving it amongst themselves...It is undeniable that something terrible happened to a very large number of Armenians back around the demise of the Ottoman Empire...The victims of that calamity should be shown utmost respect and their plight should be investigated and acknowledged for whatever it was...Third parties,around the world, are showing callous disrespect for these people by dragging them into their own disputes which has nothing to do with the Armenian situation...They should be ashamed of themselves...

Why are we and the rest of the world pre-occupied with the Armenian Genocide as bad it was and totally ignore The Circassian Genocide just before the Armenian one which affected 3 million muslims from Russia.

http://www.circassianworld.com/new/war- ... inger.html

Has the world gone mad?

Sorry,YFred,but I refuse to look at yet another potential genocide...My sanity is at risk here...And,YES< the world has gone bonkers>

Sorry about that and all that. Perhaps some of our GC patriotic cousins have the stomach for it.
We shall see said the blind man.

What does this have to do with the subject of Armenian Genocide? You seem to be good at trying to turn the subject around to change it. To Yfred and Bir, I ask you this, do you personaly beleive there was an attempted genocide against the Armenians by the Turks? Yes or no?

Yes,I personally believe there was an atempted genocide against the Armenians,but not by the Turks,but by the Ottomans...Talat Pasha,who is considered by most historians to be the person who planned it was ethnically Turkish...But we cannot tarnish all Turks with the genocide brush which is unfortunately what certain people are trying to do now....I think it is being disrespectful to the memory of the victims to try to use it for political gain by third parties...

Courtesy of Boomerang!

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... sc&start=0

So stop making a fool of yourself and beat it, scum bag Turk!

There is only one fool here...Bafidi, the stinking turd,who is trying to make political capital out of other people's misery....Back under your rock,you miserable spider,stop polluting decent people's cyber air...

[Piratis]

The TCs had the backing of UK and Turkey and they knew this very well. If they didn't have the encouragement and support of Turkey and UK they would not be able to do what they did. The how the TCs started the conflict in 1958 is well recorded, as is the how Turkey started the war in 1974.

Greece is not a foreign country to the vast majority of Cypriot people. Cyprus is a separate country not because this is what the Cypriot people choose, but because this is what served the interests of the foreign Imperialists whose interests you are serving.

And your hypocrisy continues. Now you even threaten us for taking away our whole island because you want to make every single innocent Greek Cypriot to "pay the price" for a past conflict which was initiated by you.

And then you tell us that the Turks should not even apologize (let alone pay the price) for a genocide of millions!!!

So we should apologize and pay the price...
The Turks, despite starting the conflicts, the wars and commiting the worst kinds of genocides and ethnic cleansings, should not recognize their crimes, should not apologize, should not pay the price but they should instead by rewarded on the expense of the human and democratic rights of their victims!!

No matter what you say,Piratis,the fact remains ,without your bloodyminded and foolhardy demand for Enosis with Greece,recent history of Cyprus would be wastly different...You know that as well,but your fanatical mind will not allow you to say it...

Bir, revolutions do not always succeed. The fact that the two foreign Imperialists have managed to defeat our revolution for freedom is not something that shows that the revolution of the Cypriot people was wrong. These are the usual tactics of the Imperialists. They threaten the oppressed people that if they dare to revolt seeking their rights that they will oppress them even more.

Here is an example from 1821:

"During the Greek War of Independence in 1821, the Ottoman authorities feared that Greek Cypriots would rebel again. Archbishop Kyprianos, a powerful leader who worked to improve the education of Greek Cypriot children, was accused of plotting against the government. Kyprianos, his bishops, and hundreds of priests and important laymen were arrested and summarily hanged or decapitated on July 9, 1821."

Of course if we were the "good slaves" type then the history of Cyprus would be very different. We would all speak Turkish by now and Cyprus would be part of Turkey. But we are not that type. We will fight for freedom and our right to determine the destiny of our own island in a democratic way until we achieve what is right and just.

It is easier to blame the weak and defenceless minority for all that befallen on your arrogant head...

The Turks are neither weak nor defenseless. The oppression of the Turks against the Cypriot people which started in 1571 and continues until today (they stopped oppressing us only for 80 years) is a testimony to this fact. The TCs in Cyprus have never been a separate entity from those in Turkey. Just like all other Turks they have been part of the Turkish population controlled directly by Ankara and serving the Turkish Interests. This continues today.

I know the role of the imperialists in our conflict very well...It was they who dragged Turkey kicking and screaming into the equation mid 50s...But the fact remains without ENOSIS they and Turkey could do very little to advance their ambitions....When you accept this fact we can move forward , trying to find a just solution....

Let me ask you Bir ... when we were about to join the EU Turkey was furious saying that we had no right to do this and she was threatening us. If at that point Turkey had invaded and occupied the whole Cyprus in order to prevent Cyprus from uniting with EU, what would that show? That the Cypriot people were wrong for seeking what was their right? Or that the Turks are barbarian criminals who do not respect the rights of the Cypriot people?

You telling me that the Turks did what they did to prevent us from achieving our freedom and self-determination is no excuse for what the Turks did. We are not going to do everything that Turkey demands just so to avoid the possibility of being punished by the barbarian Turks.

And please do not put words in my mouth...Nowhere did I say Turkey should not apologise for the Armenian calamity...I know little about that sensitive issue,and what little I know leeds me to believe something terrible has happened in the dying years of the Otoman empire...I believe Turkey and Armenia should be allowed to sort it out amongst themselves...Without opportunistic Turk-haters like yourself trying to use those poor people's fate for your own selfish ends....

You mean in the way Turkey is using the dispute between us in order to advance her own selfish ends? Why can Turkey support you and we can not support our Armenian brothers?

And about the "Turk-hater" part I repeat: I hate only those who support the violations of my human and democratic rights and I am perfectly justified to do so.

I see...
so you still believe that nothing was wrong with Enosis with Greece dream of yours...You refuse to acknowledge the role that stubborn dream played in the Cyprus problem of recent times...Presumably you still believe that Cyprus should be part of Greece,it is only logical if you think Cyprus is a Greek island...So your argument for democracy and human rights today is a smokescreen to trick Turkey the TCs and the world...Pretty much like back in 1960 when you signed the independence agreement and went about achieving Enosis by hook or by crook...I want to thank you for your honesty...I do not think the TCs and Turkey would be fooled by you and your fellow fanatics...Have a nice time dreaming about Enosis with Greece...The TCs will just get on with their lives the best way they can...They don't need to worry about the dreaded Enosis monster once again...They are absolutely right in insisting on Turkey's guarantee in any viable solution...They would be bonkers to trust your kind once again...Enjoy your Partition too...You have worked hard for it...

There was nothing wrong with enosis, it was a perfectly legitimate option for a territory being decolonized and the Cypriot people should have been allowed this option. None of your human rights would be violated.

The UN resolution 1541 defined "free association with an independent State, integration into an independent State, or independence as the three legitimate options of full self-government."
http://www.un.org/Depts/dpi/decolonizat ... ration.htm

Union with Greece was no less legitimate than independence. The Cypriot people should have been allowed to democratically and peacefully decide among all legitimate options with a referendum.

The "hook and crook" was used by the UK and Turkey (with your help) to deny to the Cypriot people their rights and impose on them the unfair 1960 agreements, which did not even give a true independence to Cyprus.

What I support is not union with Greece, but freedom to Cyprus so the Cypriot people can democratically decide what they want to do with their own island. If Cypriots want to unite their island with Greece, EU or China, that is their right and no imperialist should have any say about it.

On the other hand you want to continue imposing your will on the Cypriot people by force, as you did since the time you came to our island. What you support is not independence for Cyprus - you never supported such thing, but an enslaved Cyprus under the control of your imperialist friends who will in turn reward you for the help you offer to them by granting to your minority disproportionally large amounts of power and land on the expense of our human and democratic rights.