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[YFred]

how quickly people forget the serbia lesson...and this is fighting soviet weapons...it would be worse for turkey having to depend on US non functiong weapons...it took serbia 3 months, i wouldn't even give turkey 2 weeks...

A bit like Iraq and Afghanistan then, No?

you comparing serbia to iraq and the tribal warlords?...and you reckon you are switched on?...unless ofcourse you think candles is the same as electric lights..what old chap?...

Tribal warlord, you mean they are not even a nation? Wow how hard it must be to defeat them?

[boomerang]

how quickly people forget the serbia lesson...and this is fighting soviet weapons...it would be worse for turkey having to depend on US non functiong weapons...it took serbia 3 months, i wouldn't even give turkey 2 weeks...

A bit like Iraq and Afghanistan then, No?

you comparing serbia to iraq and the tribal warlords?...and you reckon you are switched on?...unless ofcourse you think candles is the same as electric lights..what old chap?...

Tribal warlord, you mean they are not even a nation? Wow how hard it must be to defeat them?

different type of warfare...no infrastructure...look at the ragtag PKK...still giving it to TAF old chap...what?...

[Paphitis]

wouldn't surprice me all US aircraft turkey has find themselves grounded...by a flick of a switch...

Not immediately. But if there is an arms embargo, then over time most TAF aircraft will be grounded because they would just run out of spares.

The same thing happened to Iran with their F-14s.

http://www.acig.org/artman/publish/article_212.shtml

forget the embargoes mate...all us made armaments these days are switchable from the US...you think the us will fight against their own weapons?...no way jose...

That's where GPS and Selective Availability come in.

Basically. all their weapons will be inaccurate, whereas US weapons will be pin point. They would also JAM all missile and radar systems as they would know exactly what all the frequencies are!

Turkey won't have the full capabilities of their US made weapons!

[Tim Drayton]

America is waking up to the fact that Iran represents the greatest threat in the Middle East, rather than the two neighbouring countries that they have smashed to smithereens. Under these circumstances, they need Turkey as an ally. I suspect that the appearance of articles like the one quoted at the beginning of this thread is a harbinger of a change in American policy towards Turkey.

[boomerang]

America is waking up to the fact that Iran represents the greatest threat in the Middle East, rather than the two neighbouring countries that they have smashed to smithereens. Under these circumstances, they need Turkey as an ally. I suspect that the appearance of articles like the one quoted at the beginning of this thread is a harbinger of a change in American policy towards Turkey.

i remember rumsfeld shaking hands and saying today i made a new friend, refering to sadam...you are correct today turkey is needed but comes tomorrow is another story...

us policy overides all frienships...this has been proven time and time again...it happened with the british, one of their staunchest allies...turkey doesn't even rate in this type of friendship...

[Tim Drayton]

America is waking up to the fact that Iran represents the greatest threat in the Middle East, rather than the two neighbouring countries that they have smashed to smithereens. Under these circumstances, they need Turkey as an ally. I suspect that the appearance of articles like the one quoted at the beginning of this thread is a harbinger of a change in American policy towards Turkey.

i remember rumsfeld shaking hands and saying today i made a new friend, refering to sadam...you are correct today turkey is needed but comes tomorrow is another story...

us policy overides all frienships...this has been proven time and time again...

I agree with you. If Fethullah Gülen gets expelled from the USA, that will speak volumes.

[YFred]

how quickly people forget the serbia lesson...and this is fighting soviet weapons...it would be worse for turkey having to depend on US non functiong weapons...it took serbia 3 months, i wouldn't even give turkey 2 weeks...

A bit like Iraq and Afghanistan then, No?

you comparing serbia to iraq and the tribal warlords?...and you reckon you are switched on?...unless ofcourse you think candles is the same as electric lights..what old chap?...

Tribal warlord, you mean they are not even a nation? Wow how hard it must be to defeat them?

different type of warfare...no infrastructure...look at the ragtag PKK...still giving it to TAF old chap...what?...

I say, if the ragtag PKK can do that to the TAF, what would the Turks do the the Amercians, what?

[boomerang]

how quickly people forget the serbia lesson...and this is fighting soviet weapons...it would be worse for turkey having to depend on US non functiong weapons...it took serbia 3 months, i wouldn't even give turkey 2 weeks...

A bit like Iraq and Afghanistan then, No?

you comparing serbia to iraq and the tribal warlords?...and you reckon you are switched on?...unless ofcourse you think candles is the same as electric lights..what old chap?...

Tribal warlord, you mean they are not even a nation? Wow how hard it must be to defeat them?

different type of warfare...no infrastructure...look at the ragtag PKK...still giving it to TAF old chap...what?...

I say, if the ragtag PKK can do that to the TAF, what would the Turks do the the Amercians, what?

fuck all...

remember the bag on the head incident?...

just hope the yanks have a good supply of headbags...they are gonna need them..what?...

[YFred]

how quickly people forget the serbia lesson...and this is fighting soviet weapons...it would be worse for turkey having to depend on US non functiong weapons...it took serbia 3 months, i wouldn't even give turkey 2 weeks...

A bit like Iraq and Afghanistan then, No?

you comparing serbia to iraq and the tribal warlords?...and you reckon you are switched on?...unless ofcourse you think candles is the same as electric lights..what old chap?...

Tribal warlord, you mean they are not even a nation? Wow how hard it must be to defeat them?

different type of warfare...no infrastructure...look at the ragtag PKK...still giving it to TAF old chap...what?...

I say, if the ragtag PKK can do that to the TAF, what would the Turks do the the Amercians, what?

fuck all...

remember the bag on the head incident?...

Do me a favour and put one on yours, so we can all have a bit of peace please, old chap, what?

[Paphitis]

America is waking up to the fact that Iran represents the greatest threat in the Middle East, rather than the two neighbouring countries that they have smashed to smithereens. Under these circumstances, they need Turkey as an ally. I suspect that the appearance of articles like the one quoted at the beginning of this thread is a harbinger of a change in American policy towards Turkey.

i remember rumsfeld shaking hands and saying today i made a new friend, refering to sadam...you are correct today turkey is needed but comes tomorrow is another story...

us policy overides all frienships...this has been proven time and time again...

I agree with you. If Fethullah Gülen gets expelled from the USA, that will speak volumes.

The tide is turning Tim.

And if I'm not mistaken, I did say to you that the US would not be too happy with Turkey's Islamification. Whilst it has some control over Turkey, it may turn a blind eye, but if the US loses its control, then who knows what might happen.

One thing is for sure, I don't think the US will be too scared of Turkey. We are talking about a country that faced the mighty USSR during bthe Cold War. Turkey is nothing but a mere dirty pimple on the former USSR's arse!