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The nuts are ripe early this year

[Kikapu]

If the USA wants to destroy the military Turkey in the future that they themselves helped build, then the USA may well use the occupation of Cyprus by Turkey as the "red herring" excuse to accomplish it's mission. A warning to Turkey by the USA will be to "Get out of Cyprus, or else". That would be enough for Turkey to disobey the USA, so not to been seen as a weakling to walk away from Cyprus with it's tail between it's legs in the eyes of the Islamic World. Much like when the USA told Saddam to leave Kuwait in 1991 and also again telling Saddam and his sons to leave Iraq in 2003. Saddam couldn't do it even if he had wanted.Too much face to lose, so he lost Iraq itself, as well as his life, but walking away from Kuwait and Iraq would have had the same results also.!

Kiks, somehow, I don't see the US walking into Turkey as easy as they did into Iraq and Afganistan.

Turkey has a strong military with all the latest hardware. However strong the US thinks she is, she will find it easier to stop the supply of weapons and spares than to go in by force. Me thinks that it will be the US that will be walking with its tail between its legs.

The US has nutured Turkey for years and built her up to be the beast she is today, there is no taking that back, unfortunately. As much as I would like to see her out of Cyprus and crushed it is not going to happen like that.

The USA does not need to attack Turkey. All they have to do is keep the fighting to Cyprus. I've said this before, that in the event Turkey is challenged by a large force, all of the TA in Cyprus is trapped there with no place to go or hide. Once the supply line is cut off from mainland Turkey to it's troops in the north, the north will become a "turkey shoot". Any attempt by Turkey to run the gauntlet from mainland Turkey to the north will also become a "turkey shoot". Turkey has all the hardware that the Americans have given them, but the Americans have not given the Turks all the sophisticated software that run the hardware. This has been a long complaint by Turkey, that the Americans hold back on the sophisticated software. How many hardware Turkey has is meaningless without the systems to run them and be used against the US's own hardware. Americans can turn the GPS system on and off as they like to the rest of the world and keep it "on" for themselves in such conflicts. That's just one example. Operating systems on Turkish hardware can be jammed no doubt, since the Americans are the ones who know how those systems work. No, if push comes to shove with Turkey wanted in becoming an Islamic Ottoman style aggressor in the region, Turkey will become a "turkey shoot" with the Americans and the rest of NATO. With Turkey's own internal problems with it's own people, the country will fall apart faster than you can imagine.!

[Kikapu]

If the USA wants to destroy the military Turkey in the future that they themselves helped build, then the USA may well use the occupation of Cyprus by Turkey as the "red herring" excuse to accomplish it's mission. A warning to Turkey by the USA will be to "Get out of Cyprus, or else". That would be enough for Turkey to disobey the USA, so not to been seen as a weakling to walk away from Cyprus with it's tail between it's legs in the eyes of the Islamic World. Much like when the USA told Saddam to leave Kuwait in 1991 and also again telling Saddam and his sons to leave Iraq in 2003. Saddam couldn't do it even if he had wanted.Too much face to lose, so he lost Iraq itself, as well as his life, but walking away from Kuwait and Iraq would have had the same results also.!

Let us pray that they do a better job with Turkey than they did with Taliban. I suspect not.

Dream on, the relationship with Turkey is not as one way as you imagine, but really more importantly you and you GC Fascist friends must stop this constant wet dreams of the destruction of Turkey. It does no good to your heart rate.

The Taliban's greatest weapon are the suicide bombers. I don't think the Turks are "suicidal" as the Taliban, no matter how many virgins they may think they will receive at the other end.!

[Paphitis]

If the USA wants to destroy the military Turkey in the future that they themselves helped build, then the USA may well use the occupation of Cyprus by Turkey as the "red herring" excuse to accomplish it's mission. A warning to Turkey by the USA will be to "Get out of Cyprus, or else". That would be enough for Turkey to disobey the USA, so not to been seen as a weakling to walk away from Cyprus with it's tail between it's legs in the eyes of the Islamic World. Much like when the USA told Saddam to leave Kuwait in 1991 and also again telling Saddam and his sons to leave Iraq in 2003. Saddam couldn't do it even if he had wanted.Too much face to lose, so he lost Iraq itself, as well as his life, but walking away from Kuwait and Iraq would have had the same results also.!

Kiks, somehow, I don't see the US walking into Turkey as easy as they did into Iraq and Afganistan.

Turkey has a strong military with all the latest hardware. However strong the US thinks she is, she will find it easier to stop the supply of weapons and spares than to go in by force. Me thinks that it will be the US that will be walking with its tail between its legs.

The US has nutured Turkey for years and built her up to be the beast she is today, there is no taking that back, unfortunately. As much as I would like to see her out of Cyprus and crushed it is not going to happen like that.

The USA does not need to attack Turkey. All they have to do is keep the fighting to Cyprus. I've said this before, that in the event Turkey is challenged by a large force, all of the TA in Cyprus is trapped there with no place to go or hide. Once the supply line is cut off from mainland Turkey to it's troops in the north, the north will become a "turkey shoot". Any attempt by Turkey to run the gauntlet from mainland Turkey to the north will also become a "turkey shoot". Turkey has all the hardware that the Americans have given them, but the Americans have not given the Turks all the sophisticated software that run the hardware. This has been a long complaint by Turkey, that the Americans hold back on the sophisticated software. How many hardware Turkey has is meaningless without the systems to run them and be used against the US's own hardware. Americans can turn the GPS system on and off as they like to the rest of the world and keep it "on" for themselves in such conflicts. That's just one example. Operating systems on Turkish hardware can be jammed no doubt, since the Americans are the ones who know how those systems work. No, if push comes to shove with Turkey wanted in becoming an Islamic Ottoman style aggressor in the region, Turkey will become a "turkey shoot" with the Americans and the rest of NATO. With Turkey's own internal problems with it's own people, the country will fall apart faster than you can imagine.!

Not only that, but the US can make 3/4 of Turkey's arsenal obsolete with a few mouse clicks. GPS can have Selective Availability with in built errors which the US controls.

[boomerang]

wouldn't surprice me all US aircraft turkey has find themselves grounded...by a flick of a switch...

[YFred]

If the USA wants to destroy the military Turkey in the future that they themselves helped build, then the USA may well use the occupation of Cyprus by Turkey as the "red herring" excuse to accomplish it's mission. A warning to Turkey by the USA will be to "Get out of Cyprus, or else". That would be enough for Turkey to disobey the USA, so not to been seen as a weakling to walk away from Cyprus with it's tail between it's legs in the eyes of the Islamic World. Much like when the USA told Saddam to leave Kuwait in 1991 and also again telling Saddam and his sons to leave Iraq in 2003. Saddam couldn't do it even if he had wanted.Too much face to lose, so he lost Iraq itself, as well as his life, but walking away from Kuwait and Iraq would have had the same results also.!

Let us pray that they do a better job with Turkey than they did with Taliban. I suspect not.

Dream on, the relationship with Turkey is not as one way as you imagine, but really more importantly you and you GC Fascist friends must stop this constant wet dreams of the destruction of Turkey. It does no good to your heart rate.

The Taliban's greatest weapon are the suicide bombers. I don't think the Turks are "suicidal" as the Taliban, no matter how many virgins they may think they will receive at the other end.!

You have not addresses the thought though have you old boy. The question is will they perform as bad as they did with the Taliban. After all it was the yanks who helped make them what they were before attacking them.
Are they wining against the Taliban? Can they really defeat the Turkey?
Judging by their performance in Iraq and Afghanistan, one supects that they are crap at any warfare never mind the invisible enemy, virgins or no virgins.
At your age you really must now begin to forget about virgins, you know what I mean?

[boomerang]

what about serbia, brought on her knees...with sorties...

[YFred]

The fascists are all out again having wet dreams of impending defeat of Turkey at the flick of a switch, if only they had some switch of that kind so we can flick em on at some point in their lives.

Now wouldn't that be something.

[boomerang]

The fascists are all out again having wet dreams of impending defeat of Turkey at the flick of a switch, if only they had some switch of that kind so we can flick em on at some point in their lives.

Now wouldn't that be something.

the only wet dream in the event of a war between turkey and the rest is that turkey will come out winning... ...idiot

[Kikapu]

If the USA wants to destroy the military Turkey in the future that they themselves helped build, then the USA may well use the occupation of Cyprus by Turkey as the "red herring" excuse to accomplish it's mission. A warning to Turkey by the USA will be to "Get out of Cyprus, or else". That would be enough for Turkey to disobey the USA, so not to been seen as a weakling to walk away from Cyprus with it's tail between it's legs in the eyes of the Islamic World. Much like when the USA told Saddam to leave Kuwait in 1991 and also again telling Saddam and his sons to leave Iraq in 2003. Saddam couldn't do it even if he had wanted.Too much face to lose, so he lost Iraq itself, as well as his life, but walking away from Kuwait and Iraq would have had the same results also.!

Kiks, somehow, I don't see the US walking into Turkey as easy as they did into Iraq and Afganistan.

Turkey has a strong military with all the latest hardware. However strong the US thinks she is, she will find it easier to stop the supply of weapons and spares than to go in by force. Me thinks that it will be the US that will be walking with its tail between its legs.

The US has nutured Turkey for years and built her up to be the beast she is today, there is no taking that back, unfortunately. As much as I would like to see her out of Cyprus and crushed it is not going to happen like that.

The USA does not need to attack Turkey. All they have to do is keep the fighting to Cyprus. I've said this before, that in the event Turkey is challenged by a large force, all of the TA in Cyprus is trapped there with no place to go or hide. Once the supply line is cut off from mainland Turkey to it's troops in the north, the north will become a "turkey shoot". Any attempt by Turkey to run the gauntlet from mainland Turkey to the north will also become a "turkey shoot". Turkey has all the hardware that the Americans have given them, but the Americans have not given the Turks all the sophisticated software that run the hardware. This has been a long complaint by Turkey, that the Americans hold back on the sophisticated software. How many hardware Turkey has is meaningless without the systems to run them and be used against the US's own hardware. Americans can turn the GPS system on and off as they like to the rest of the world and keep it "on" for themselves in such conflicts. That's just one example. Operating systems on Turkish hardware can be jammed no doubt, since the Americans are the ones who know how those systems work. No, if push comes to shove with Turkey wanted in becoming an Islamic Ottoman style aggressor in the region, Turkey will become a "turkey shoot" with the Americans and the rest of NATO. With Turkey's own internal problems with it's own people, the country will fall apart faster than you can imagine.!

Not only that, but the US can make 3/4 of Turkey's arsenal obsolete with a few mouse clicks. GPS can have Selective Availability with in built errors which the US controls.

The possibilities for the US is endless on how to manipulate all the systems they have sold to Turkey.

Turkey's "smart bombs" will become dumber than YFred and DTA both put together, if at all that's possible.!

Obama had already told the Turkish Parliament last year in Ankara, that he understands Turkey's concern of others in wanting to break Turkey up.

Does he understands ever.! I'm sure the CIA has the Blueprints already.!