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When the Turks take over all of Cyprus ...

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Gasman » Mon Apr 05, 2010 8:22 pm

Och stop greeting hen.

Since when was a GREEK concerned about the welfare of Cypriots?
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Postby Oracle » Mon Apr 05, 2010 8:36 pm

Liontaroui wrote:Well seeing as you're Greek you can just migrate to Athens and feel right at home.
But then again you live in Scotland so who cares right hen?


But, unlike you, I was born in Cyprus. Suffered the first main onslaught for Turkification of Cyprus, from the Turks in 1964. I, as a Greek am part and parcel of this island and my father, grandfather, great-grandfather (the Pasha-slayer :D ) etc have been protectors of this ethos for generations.

You are correct about one thing: I, as a Greek, would feel at home anywhere (Scotland etc) which practices democratic principles as first attested by the Greeks (Athenians, as you coincidentally raise).

So, to answer my own question, what I personally cannot acclimatise to, and would miss, is the loss of these democratic practices when Cyprus (or any other EU nation) becomes Turkish!
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Postby Gasman » Mon Apr 05, 2010 8:43 pm

Doesn't even live here? Blerdy Imposter!

But, unlike you, I was born in Cyprus. Suffered the first main onslaught for Turkification of Cyprus, from the Turks in 1964.


Have noted you are in your dotage and will try to make allowances.
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Postby Liontaroui » Mon Apr 05, 2010 8:44 pm

Oracle wrote:
Liontaroui wrote:Well seeing as you're Greek you can just migrate to Athens and feel right at home.
But then again you live in Scotland so who cares right hen?


But, unlike you, I was born in Cyprus. Suffered the first main onslaught for Turkification of Cyprus, from the Turks in 1964. I, as a Greek am part and parcel of this island and my father, grandfather, great-grandfather (the Pasha-slayer :D ) etc have been protectors of this ethos for generations.

You are correct about one thing: I, as a Greek, would feel at home anywhere (Scotland etc) which practices democratic principles as first attested by the Greeks (Athenians, as you coincidentally raise).

So, to answer my own question, what I personally cannot acclimatise to, and would miss, is the loss of these democratic practices when Cyprus (or any other EU nation) becomes Turkish!


I WAS born in Cyprus and I still live there. Not Greece, the Republic of Cyprus. The one where slowly slowly we are getting a creeping Enosis- the Greek national anthem, the Greek flag left right and centre- and in the case of APOEL, bigger and higher than my flag- and now this bullshit about Greek alphabet license plaes. Athenian 'democracy' was only for free men btw.... and speaking of democracy, why doesnt the right wing seem to respect it at home?
Whyever would you think I was born abroad?
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Postby Liontaroui » Mon Apr 05, 2010 8:46 pm

And seeing as my folks are refugees I get very antsy when the turbo Greeks start talking, because IF you lived in Cy you'd realise that the Paphites and Lemesianoi are talking about partition, rather than mix with 'them'.
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Postby Oracle » Mon Apr 05, 2010 8:57 pm

Liontaroui wrote:And seeing as my folks are refugees I get very antsy when the turbo Greeks start talking, because IF you lived in Cy you'd realise that the Paphites and Lemesianoi are talking about partition, rather than mix with 'them'.


Yes you do strike me as the sort who prefers partition amongst the majority of the Cypriots rather than pull together with a united front against the one common enemy (that is if you are Greek Cypriot!) which is the Turk.

Greeks would never renege to the Turks!

Stand up and be counted for a truly democratic and free Cyprus! :D
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Postby Bananiot » Mon Apr 05, 2010 8:58 pm

The Turks have already taken over the mind of oracle. When the mind goes, who cares about 8251 km square of barren land that is destined for desertification in the not so distant future?
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Postby Liontaroui » Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:06 pm

Oracle wrote:
Liontaroui wrote:And seeing as my folks are refugees I get very antsy when the turbo Greeks start talking, because IF you lived in Cy you'd realise that the Paphites and Lemesianoi are talking about partition, rather than mix with 'them'.


Yes you do strike me as the sort who prefers partition amongst the majority of the Cypriots rather than pull together with a united front against the one common enemy (that is if you are Greek Cypriot!) which is the Turk.

Greeks would never renege to the Turks!

Stand up and be counted for a truly democratic and free Cyprus! :D


If by truly democratic you mean without allowing the minorities of Cyprus a stake in their country, I'm lost for words. It is precisely these thoughts and 'ethos' that set my country on fire, from all sides. Fanatic Don Quixotes tilting at windmills in the name of some fuddy duddy utopia too clever to see the manipulation from the Big Three. Let me be clear. I don't blame Greeks, Turks, English or Americans for the Cyprus shit-fest. They are after their own interests. WE allowed it.
Essentially you just called me a traitor. I love my country best because I want it to prosper in peace and with respect to all its children. You hornswoggle our history and exclude everyone who doesnt agree to your politics- of course theres Greek heritage, and Turkish, and Venetian, and a lot more before any of the above.
Please don't hijack my voice where intercommunal issues are concerned- out 15% vote Archbishop is doing a mighty fine job already.
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Postby Liontaroui » Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:07 pm

And Ill save you the bother of the next accusation. I am not a Communist. Nor a Turkish impostor. Nor Kitas on the iphone.
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Postby Gasman » Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:19 pm

If the BBC does refer to this forum, I do hope they read this latest insane rant by Lady O. Sums up nicely what the 'obstacles' to reunification are to my mind.

People like her.
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