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[repulsewarrior]

...right, the Museum in Baghdad was wrecked, not that anyone cares. it is too bad that Halliburton, and the like, make nothing from goodness. 20 Billion is the cost of teaching everyone on this planet to read, 20 Billion is what it costs to get everyone fresh drinking water, but what of the cost, after the Trillions spent on war and its machine, where is the balance?

[Tim Drayton]

It is all speculation on my part, of course, but I agree about the Kurds and wonder if somehow Islamic State went back on the deal and tried to take Kurdistan as well. It is curious that American air strikes only started when they moved into Kurdish territory, even though mass genocide was previously taking place against Shiites. Another totally different interpretation would be they are waiting their time for Islamic State to spread over enough territory for them to stretch their resources and supply routes to the limit before striking. We will see.

[Tim Drayton]

wow, indeed, a very interesting conversation, (and hopeful), thanks for the link Tim.

I just wonder why they would be using English as they all seem to be from Arab countries.

[Paphitis]

...right, the Museum in Baghdad was wrecked, not that anyone cares. it is too bad that Halliburton, and the like, make nothing from goodness. 20 Billion is the cost of teaching everyone on this planet to read, 20 Billion is what it costs to get everyone fresh drinking water, but what of the cost, after the Trillions spent on war and its machine, where is the balance?

I think this is all irrelevant.

The world has no control over the actions of groups such as ISIS. But when they read their ugly head, the international community has a responsibility to protect the innocent. This is not some free licence for the West to intervene wherever they want, but the rise of the Islamic State in Syria and now Iraq is a major concern.

It is a threat that will hit home in the UK and Australia. We are not immune, and it's probably only a matter of time before there is a major event in those countries. We can't tolerate the Islamic State, and therefore, I think the US should do whatever is necessary to destroy them.

[Paphitis]

It is all speculation on my part, of course, but I agree about the Kurds and wonder if somehow Islamic State went back on the deal and tried to take Kurdistan as well. It is curious that American air strikes only started when they moved into Kurdish territory, even though mass genocide was previously taking place against Shiites. Another totally different interpretation would be they are waiting their time for Islamic State to spread over enough territory for them to stretch their resources and supply routes to the limit before striking. We will see.

It's the Kurds the Americans are trying to protect. There is no doubt in my mind. Maybe the Americans feel obligated to protect them. In my opinion though, the Americans just sat back and let the Islamic State ravage Shiites in Syria. They should have finished them off long ago and not let this get out of hand. 2 million refugees in Syria and counting.

[Tim Drayton]

It is all speculation on my part, of course, but I agree about the Kurds and wonder if somehow Islamic State went back on the deal and tried to take Kurdistan as well. It is curious that American air strikes only started when they moved into Kurdish territory, even though mass genocide was previously taking place against Shiites. Another totally different interpretation would be they are waiting their time for Islamic State to spread over enough territory for them to stretch their resources and supply routes to the limit before striking. We will see.

It's the Kurds the Americans are trying to protect. There is no doubt in my mind. Maybe the Americans feel obligated to protect them. In my opinion though, the Americans just sat back and let the Islamic State ravage Shiites in Syria. They should have finished them off long ago and not let this get out of hand. 2 million refugees in Syria and counting.

And it is just a coincidence that the largest unexploited proven oil reserves in the world are on their territory? Hmmm.

[repulsewarrior]

...Bush jr, and his buddy Blair promised humanitarian aid which they never followed up upon, never mind the looting which they did nothing about, that is the flaw. it was ok to invade Iraq, and demand reparations for their liberation, but the Charity, and Grace, upon which the Western world is allegedly built upon was not demonstrated; what is the legacy left behind?

...indeed, turn them all to glass, is that the way?

to organise ourselves, and to demonstrate something more than military might, there; if it is to provide relief (to the innocent), is very relevant i think.

@Tim, English is spoken by 90% of the world's population, while it represents about 10% as a mother tongue. i imagine if the www was conceived in China, it would still have to function in English to succeed, under the circumstances; why else are we speaking English in a Forum which 'should be' predominantly Greek?

...if it is the Kurds that motivate the Americans, why (although the answer is always the same)? IS, and its predecessor(s) were not only killing Shiites in Syria. and what of the chemical weapons, they were not immune to using them, aren't we lucky that the world's biggest stockpile was eliminated. it is all so twisted.

[miltiades]

Four years ago when I first started this thread ISIL did not exist, but savage barbarians with a twisted and a demonic interpretation of a satanic sect were very much in existence. Suicide bombers blowing themselves up and indiscriminately murdering innocent people in restaurants, in mosques, in markets.

The west has been asleep for years now, it has taken an unimaginable savage act to prompt the west and the USA to wake up to the grave dangers arising from this perverted ideology.

It is time now to take severe action and rid the world of this demonic and savage ideology.

The sanctity of life is of paramount importance in the civilized world but not so amongst the savages.

[kurupetos]

why else are we speaking English in a Forum which 'should be' predominantly Greek?

Because of the forum's rules?

English is the only language allowed - You may post phrases or words in other languages only if an accurate translation is provided within the same post.

[Paphitis]

It is all speculation on my part, of course, but I agree about the Kurds and wonder if somehow Islamic State went back on the deal and tried to take Kurdistan as well. It is curious that American air strikes only started when they moved into Kurdish territory, even though mass genocide was previously taking place against Shiites. Another totally different interpretation would be they are waiting their time for Islamic State to spread over enough territory for them to stretch their resources and supply routes to the limit before striking. We will see.

It's the Kurds the Americans are trying to protect. There is no doubt in my mind. Maybe the Americans feel obligated to protect them. In my opinion though, the Americans just sat back and let the Islamic State ravage Shiites in Syria. They should have finished them off long ago and not let this get out of hand. 2 million refugees in Syria and counting.

And it is just a coincidence that the largest unexploited proven oil reserves in the world are on their territory? Hmmm.

Tim,

this would make sense to me if the US did not withdraw and stayed which is not the case.

It would also seem suspicious to me if the banter out of Washington was calling for a full scale land invasion which is not the case.

There are 2 options really:
1) do nothing, in which case the Kurds (this explains Turkey's support) and probably the Christians will be slaughtered along with many Shiite Muslims, or
2) an air campaign.

I am strongly in favour of option 2.