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[kurupetos]

These terrorists have graduated from London mosque brain washing academies.

IMO, it is about time to ban Islam in Europe. We have had enough of this sh*t.

[Tim Drayton]

Because 1% (or less than 1%) of a group is deranged and poses a threat to wider society, this is no reason to stigmatise the whole of that group.

[Tim Drayton]

I think an exemption in this instance can be rushed through Parliament. They are not an asset to the UK but a dangerous liability.

I am not an expert, but I think you will find that ius soli is enshrined in Common Law so not even Parliament can legislate against it.

[Lordo]

but you see tim, our greeks of cyprus and that includes all the charluis do not see the real world only through their greek blue tinted shortsited miopic eyes. they do not see not only that it is such a tiny minority that does this but they also do not see their just as tiny minority christians that do it too. have a look at what cia sponsored agents do in nigeria to innocent muslim community or what christians did in bosnia or even closer to home, what their super heros did at murataga sandallilar, atlilar and dohni. but of course these dont count becasue they are muslims right.

lets face it the average greek of cyprus lives with his head in his arse.

[miltiades]

but you see tim, our greeks of cyprus and that includes all the charluis do not see the real world only through their greek blue tinted shortsited miopic eyes. they do not see not only that it is such a tiny minority that does this but they also do not see their just as tiny minority christians that do it too. have a look at what cia sponsored agents do in nigeria to innocent muslim community or what christians did in bosnia or even closer to home, what their super heros did at murataga sandallilar, atlilar and dohni. but of course these dont count becasue they are muslims right.

lets face it the average greek of cyprus lives with his head in his arse.

More rubbish from a brain dead Jihadist !!

[Tim Drayton]

Every act stands by its own merits. One atrocity is not made right because another was committed. Yes, horrendous acts were committed when Yugoslavia fell apart as they were when the Republic of Cyprus fell apart. I believe that those responsible for the Anglo-American neo-imperialist adventure in Iraq and Afghanistan are responsible for human rights abuses equal to or even worse than those now being committed by the jihadists in Syria and Iraq. But this does not absolve the latter of their guilt. They have declared all Shiites to be kafirs and are slaughtering them on sight. They are even filming such crimes and posting them on social media. This is genocide and it is happening now. At least they are giving Christians the opportunity to convert or pay punitive taxes. Not that I am justifying the treatment they are meeting out to anybody in the territory they control. The whole world seems to be appalled. Just about all parties to the international community will support action: the West, Russia, Iran, Assad's Syria. The Kurdish PKK rebels in Turkey to their credit are there to help defend Iraqi Kurdistan against the Islamic State. All it takes is one UN resolution that no country will oppose and a short, swift, surgical operation to finish off this curse. I am somebody who has marched in protest against Bush and Blair's Iraq war, but I would welcome an intervention now. Yet, oddly it is not happening. Either Uncle Sam is moving stealthily, or there is more to this than meets the eye. As I have pointed out before, there is a lot of circumstantial evidence linking the current Islamist regime in Turkey with these jihadists, and that regime, in my view, was installed by the US to do US's bidding, especially in international affairs. So - go figure.

[Paphitis]

Well done on Cyprus for picking its side. The reality of course is that Cyprus would be a very low level target.

However, the war was declared with the beheading of Foley. The Islamic State want its war with the infidel US and it shall have it.

The International Community is appalled and I think it's now time to destroy the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria and with them any US, Australian or UK citizens.

The West will not negotiate with the Islamic State or yield to the blackmail. Their demands and threats can only result in the increase of US military action.

Bye bye Islamic State! You will all meet your creator and your 72 virgins real soon.

It's high time Australia sent in its F-18s as well. An Islamic State terrorist attack was recently foiled by Islamic State fighter against the Melbourne Cricket Ground.

Are you not being slightly contradictory here M, another thread you said this:
"I have not voted so far for either of you but I am leaning towards GR! because I feel concerned about the inflammatory comments you made against the CNG and you ridiculing its capability and therefore prostrating yourself to Turkey's will. That is unnacceptable. Gr! has never done such a thing which has my respect."

Are you forgeting that this deranged psychopath has thrown his FULL support behind these savages, not once but constantly and insessantly. In time most of you on this forum will come to realize how dangerous these savages are and how contemptable are those who express support or offer justification of their actions. A menace to the civilized world, a menace to the millions of decent muslims the world over. The West is beginning to wake up from its apathetic state.

Milti,

I seriously doubt Get Real will support organizations such as the Islamic State. I believe he is winding you up. He opposes the US and its Foreign Policy so for him, America's enemies are his allies.

As to who's views I support the most, I can honestly say that your views and his are not aligned with my views very much. I believe in building bridges with the US, UK and EU as a whole. I also believe in the RoC's alliance to Israel. We agree on that front. With respect to the Cyprus Issue, I opposed the Annan Plan, and do not believe that the RoC should be negotiating with the TC Leader, but with Turkey. I adhere to a very stringent form of Nationalism which I don't think you would agree with, because I believe Cyprus needs it. That is the point I was making.

Therefore, I think Get Real has views more aligned with mine in respect to the Cyprus Issue.

[Paphitis]

The British citizen in the following interview says he is prepared to renounce his British citizenship if the government will let him go and live in the Islamic State. What are the British authorities waiting for? This must not turn into a vendetta against all British Moslems, but why not let the small minority that think like him go as long as they renounce their citizenship - let's even put on free flights for them. They want to die as martyrs - they don't want to make any effort to fit in with our secular society and we are better off without them, so it's a win-win situation.

http://www.channel4.com/news/radical-br ... iraq-syria

By the way, the part of the world that these people have imposed their rule on (and if they are true Salafists, why can't they go and live as Bedouins in the Arabian desert without bothering anybody?) is quite secular and modern. The people there do not appreciate spoiled brats from rich countries coming and imposing their vision of the Middle Ages on them by force. I predict that, when the tide turns, most of these idiots will be slaughtered by the local population.

Yes but if this guy engages in criminal activity, becomes a combatant, and starts Beheading captured British Journalists and Syrian Soldiers, would this be acceptable to the British People?

[Paphitis]

The British citizen in the following interview says he is prepared to renounce his British citizenship if the government will let him go and live in the Islamic State. What are the British authorities waiting for? This must not turn into a vendetta against all British Moslems, but why not let the small minority that think like him go as long as they renounce their citizenship - let's even put on free flights for them. They want to die as martyrs - they don't want to make any effort to fit in with our secular society and we are better off without them, so it's a win-win situation.

http://www.channel4.com/news/radical-br ... iraq-syria

By the way, the part of the world that these people have imposed their rule on (and if they are true Salafists, why can't they go and live as Bedouins in the Arabian desert without bothering anybody?) is quite secular and modern. The people there do not appreciate spoiled brats from rich countries coming and imposing their vision of the Middle Ages on them by force. I predict that, when the tide turns, most of these idiots will be slaughtered by the local population.

Hear Hear Tim !
I doubt very much if the UK authorities would decline a request from these dangerous fanatics to renounce their citizenship.
They, the fanatics, are no good for Britain and the overwhelming majority of decent peaceful moslems. Let them depart for ever !!

If these people are genuinely Salafists - i.e. they want to live exactly as their prophet and first band of Moslems did - there is nothing or nobody in the liberal, multi-cultural UK who is going to stop them from setting up a commune in some remote part of the country and living just however they wish - as long as they do not try to impose their idea of Medieval paradise on others. I cannot see what their gripe is.

Sadly, I cannot see the UK authorities accepting their wish to renounce their citizenship. I think under ius soli anybody born on British soil has an inalienable right to citizenship, anyhow.

It's under discussion. Apparently, there are warrants waiting for about 100 citizens should they attempt to return to Australia.

Fact is, we don't want them, and cancelling passports is under discussion but I don't know how they can do that.

Stupid idiots were posting photos on the internet holding the severed heads of Syrian Soldiers in each hand.

[Paphitis]

Every act stands by its own merits. One atrocity is not made right because another was committed. Yes, horrendous acts were committed when Yugoslavia fell apart as they were when the Republic of Cyprus fell apart. I believe that those responsible for the Anglo-American neo-imperialist adventure in Iraq and Afghanistan are responsible for human rights abuses equal to or even worse than those now being committed by the jihadists in Syria and Iraq. But this does not absolve the latter of their guilt. They have declared all Shiites to be kafirs and are slaughtering them on sight. They are even filming such crimes and posting them on social media. This is genocide and it is happening now. At least they are giving Christians the opportunity to convert or pay punitive taxes. Not that I am justifying the treatment they are meeting out to anybody in the territory they control. The whole world seems to be appalled. Just about all parties to the international community will support action: the West, Russia, Iran, Assad's Syria. The Kurdish PKK rebels in Turkey to their credit are there to help defend Iraqi Kurdistan against the Islamic State. All it takes is one UN resolution that no country will oppose and a short, swift, surgical operation to finish off this curse. I am somebody who has marched in protest against Bush and Blair's Iraq war, but I would welcome an intervention now. Yet, oddly it is not happening. Either Uncle Sam is moving stealthily, or there is more to this than meets the eye. As I have pointed out before, there is a lot of circumstantial evidence linking the current Islamist regime in Turkey with these jihadists, and that regime, in my view, was installed by the US to do US's bidding, especially in international affairs. So - go figure.

It's not happening because they fear getting dragged into a long term war and occupation like Afghanistan and Iraq 1.

They will place small numbers of elite Special Forces which will be responsible for reconnaissance, intelligence gathering and calling in targets for persistent Air Strikes but that is about it.

It seems they should have done this earlier in Syria. If Assad is taken down, then things may very well be a lot more worse.