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[Lordo]

how very interesting, and these dictatorship muslim governments you are talking about, just who is controlling them and whos interest are they serving. lets take 3 of those, egypt, saudi arabia and jordan never mind the rest. who controls these countries.

interesting that you are judging 1.5 billion people with the actions of less than 0.001 percent people. it just goes to show how anti-muslim you are and how much hatred you have towards muslims. interesting indeed.

Egypt was doing fine when America had its puppet there. Then the Arab Spring occurred and everything turned to SHIT! Yeh we all supported the Arab Spring but look at the SHIT now.

Same with Saudi Arabia. The regime keeps the tribal elders and warlords from rearing their heads.

you stupid fool, you actually believe that the arab spring movement has removed the american influence in egypt. there is no point even reading your posts, man go back to sleep.

[miltiades]

how very interesting, and these dictatorship muslim governments you are talking about, just who is controlling them and whos interest are they serving. lets take 3 of those, egypt, saudi arabia and jordan never mind the rest. who controls these countries.

interesting that you are judging 1.5 billion people with the actions of less than 0.001 percent people. it just goes to show how anti-muslim you are and how much hatred you have towards muslims. interesting indeed.

Egypt was doing fine when America had its puppet there. Then the Arab Spring occurred and everything turned to SHIT! Yeh we all supported the Arab Spring but look at the SHIT now.

Same with Saudi Arabia. The regime keeps the tribal elders and warlords from rearing their heads.

you stupid fool, you actually believe that the arab spring movement has removed the american influence in egypt. there is no point even reading your posts, man go back to sleep.

You and someone else who shall remain anonymous are a perfect example of a pair of ...plonkers !!

[Paphitis]

how very interesting, and these dictatorship muslim governments you are talking about, just who is controlling them and whos interest are they serving. lets take 3 of those, egypt, saudi arabia and jordan never mind the rest. who controls these countries.

interesting that you are judging 1.5 billion people with the actions of less than 0.001 percent people. it just goes to show how anti-muslim you are and how much hatred you have towards muslims. interesting indeed.

Egypt was doing fine when America had its puppet there. Then the Arab Spring occurred and everything turned to SHIT! Yeh we all supported the Arab Spring but look at the SHIT now.

Same with Saudi Arabia. The regime keeps the tribal elders and warlords from rearing their heads.

you stupid fool, you actually believe that the arab spring movement has removed the american influence in egypt. there is no point even reading your posts, man go back to sleep.

God you're a bigger idiot than I thought!

The Arab Spring installed Islamist regime with 0 influence from America and now the Military is trying to keep the country together which is why there is a Military Administration with substantial American Influence just like when they had their puppet before the Spring uprising.

[Tim Drayton]

how very interesting, and these dictatorship muslim governments you are talking about, just who is controlling them and whos interest are they serving. lets take 3 of those, egypt, saudi arabia and jordan never mind the rest. who controls these countries.

interesting that you are judging 1.5 billion people with the actions of less than 0.001 percent people. it just goes to show how anti-muslim you are and how much hatred you have towards muslims. interesting indeed.

Egypt was doing fine when America had its puppet there. Then the Arab Spring occurred and everything turned to SHIT! Yeh we all supported the Arab Spring but look at the SHIT now.

Same with Saudi Arabia. The regime keeps the tribal elders and warlords from rearing their heads.

you stupid fool, you actually believe that the arab spring movement has removed the american influence in egypt. there is no point even reading your posts, man go back to sleep.

God you're a bigger idiot than I thought!

The Arab Spring installed Islamist regime with 0 influence from America and now the Military is trying to keep the country together which is why there is a Military Administration with substantial American Influence just like when they had their puppet before the Spring uprising.

Is it not possible that the Egyptian military acted under American instructions?

[Tim Drayton]

That's a turn up for the book. The UAE? Maybe next they will sort out Islamic State.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-28933070

[Paphitis]

how very interesting, and these dictatorship muslim governments you are talking about, just who is controlling them and whos interest are they serving. lets take 3 of those, egypt, saudi arabia and jordan never mind the rest. who controls these countries.

interesting that you are judging 1.5 billion people with the actions of less than 0.001 percent people. it just goes to show how anti-muslim you are and how much hatred you have towards muslims. interesting indeed.

Egypt was doing fine when America had its puppet there. Then the Arab Spring occurred and everything turned to SHIT! Yeh we all supported the Arab Spring but look at the SHIT now.

Same with Saudi Arabia. The regime keeps the tribal elders and warlords from rearing their heads.

you stupid fool, you actually believe that the arab spring movement has removed the american influence in egypt. there is no point even reading your posts, man go back to sleep.

God you're a bigger idiot than I thought!

The Arab Spring installed Islamist regime with 0 influence from America and now the Military is trying to keep the country together which is why there is a Military Administration with substantial American Influence just like when they had their puppet before the Spring uprising.

Is it not possible that the Egyptian military acted under American instructions?

No certainly not! They did not act under American influence.

The US was actually a big advocate for the Spring but that led to the Islamic Brotherhood which are just a watered down version of IS.

The military have taken control, are a lot more moderate in their thinking and of course they are secular. It's a bit like Turkey 40 years ago.

The Military Establishment in Egypt might be America friendly which means that Washington has influence.

[miltiades]

" a suicide bomber detonated his explosives inside a Shiite mosque here, killing 13 "

In a mosque, killing his useless self and 13 fellow Muslims. What drives these savages to commit such barbaric acts, what is the answer?

Are they so full of hate, are they so intensely brainwashed, mentally raped to believe that their barbaric act will be rewarded in the fictitious non existent paradise ?

This piece of shit blew his useless self up amongst fellow believers, indiscriminately and premeditatedly, obviously believing THAT HE WAS CARRYING OUT THE WISHES OF HIS ....GOD !!

[Tim Drayton]

Please consider the following:

The state department spokesperson repeated time and again that the US was not backing one side or the other.

But they are funding one side - there are plans to give the military aid worth $1.3bn (£852m) next year, and many senior Egyptian officers are trained in the US. Clearly there are lots of contacts, and the US has a lot of clout.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-23167490

I agree with the Foti Benlisoy’s arguments that I translated above, and we should be cautious about simple conspiracy theories that attempt to attribute one simple cause to highly complex phenomena. On the other hand, one cannot ignore the sway that the US has over the Egyptian military. They give them huge amounts of aid, and as they say, “He who pays the piper ...” I do not see how you can categorically assert that the US had nothing to do with the army’s intervention.

I am sure that almost everybody here would agree that, had the Egyptian revolution fully succeeded and not been hijacked by Islamists, and had ushered in a moderate, secular democratic regime, the world would be a better place by now. However, the way that the Egyptian military was always in the background was a cause for concern - they appeared at some stage to dump Mubarek and then were steering events along in the form of SCAF. I have no doubt that the elections held were free and fair. The Muslim Brotherhood assured the secularists that they would take their wishes and concerns into consideration and so the secularists supported them in the second round to keep the old guard out, then the Islamists pretty quickly reneged on their promises and the secularists poured onto the streets in protest. Then the army intervened. It is interesting to note that the secular Turkish press considers Sisi to be an Islamist, but of a different branch from the Brotherhood, rather than a secularist. I think there are striking similarities between Egypt and Turkey in that there is a highly articulate educated secular segment making up about 20-25% of the population, and the less educated masses most of whom are under the sway of the ‘opium of the people’, so that religious parties will probably always win fair elections.

[miltiades]

"The United Nations has verified reports of a massacre at Badoush Prison in Mosul in early June, Ms. Pillay said, when ISIS gunmen took as many as 1,500 prisoners to an uninhabited area nearby, separated the Sunni men, and forced the others to kneel in four rows before opening fire on them. Up to 670 prisoners were reported killed, Ms. Pillay said."

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/26/world ... .html?_r=0

[Tim Drayton]

It is like a replay of the collapse of Yugoslavia. It is clear that unspeakable things are going on - genocide, indeed - but those with the power to do anything just appear to watch on.