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[Alexios]

I like that part of greek history that treated the so called barbarians with respect and tolerance and considered nationalists such as the like who appear here as stupid assholes....

[Bananiot]

"I am not an Athenian or a Greek, but a citizen of the world".

Socrates, from Plutarch, Of Banishment

Now, he was a true Greek, the rest are barbarians that happened to learn Greek.

[Filitsa]

In 1780, in Kastania, Mani, the wife of Constantine Kolokotronis dressed like a warrior and fought successfully against Hashan Pasha's army holding her baby in her arms. Her baby was none other than Theodoros Kolokotronis, future leader of the Greek Revolution of 1812.

Again in Mani, in the Battle of Vergas, June 1826, Egyptian leader Ibrahim lost 2/3 of his army to an uprising of the women of Dirou. Armed with only sickles and clubs, these women managed to cast Ibrahim's men out to sea.

Heed my words! Never underestimate the power of a Maniaoura! ...

[2fan]

I like that part of greek history that treated the so called barbarians with respect and tolerance and considered nationalists such as the like who appear here as stupid assholes....

Bravo!

[Alexios]

In 1780, in Kastania, Mani, the wife of Constantine Kolokotronis dressed like a warrior and fought successfully against Hashan Pasha's army holding her baby in her arms. Her baby was none other than Theodoros Kolokotronis, future leader of the Greek Revolution of 1812.

Again in Mani, in the Battle of Vergas, June 1826, Egyptian leader Ibrahim lost 2/3 of his army to an uprising of the women of Dirou. Armed with only sickles and clubs, these women managed to cast Ibrahim's men out to sea.

Heed my words! Never underestimate the power of a Maniaoura! ...

And then you woke up....

[2fan]

LOOOOOOOOL

[Filitsa]

In 1780, in Kastania, Mani, the wife of Constantine Kolokotronis dressed like a warrior and fought successfully against Hashan Pasha's army holding her baby in her arms. Her baby was none other than Theodoros Kolokotronis, future leader of the Greek Revolution of 1812.

Again in Mani, in the Battle of Vergas, June 1826, Egyptian leader Ibrahim lost 2/3 of his army to an uprising of the women of Dirou. Armed with only sickles and clubs, these women managed to cast Ibrahim's men out to sea.

Heed my words! Never underestimate the power of a Maniaoura! ...

And then you woke up....

"Them there's fightin' words!"

I think it was a Maniaoura (and not a Maniatis) who said:

"H patris mou einai Mani
Kai kanoni den th ftani."

Come on, Alexious, why do you doubt this?

[cypezokyli]

In 1780, in Kastania, Mani, the wife of Constantine Kolokotronis dressed like a warrior and fought successfully against Hashan Pasha's army holding her baby in her arms. Her baby was none other than Theodoros Kolokotronis, future leader of the Greek Revolution of 1812.

Again in Mani, in the Battle of Vergas, June 1826, Egyptian leader Ibrahim lost 2/3 of his army to an uprising of the women of Dirou. Armed with only sickles and clubs, these women managed to cast Ibrahim's men out to sea.

Heed my words! Never underestimate the power of a Maniaoura! ...


Them there's fightin' words!"

I think it was a Maniaoura (and not a Maniatis) who said:

"H patris mou einai Mani
Kai kanoni den th ftani."

dear filitsa

remember at school the used to give us the first couple of pages of makrygiannis autobiography?
remeber the told us he learn to write that old and we should admire him for that?
remember, where else we met with makrygiannis? it was when he fought for a constitution

did u ever read makrygiannis writings? if u do perhaps you will realise why we get only the first couple of pages.

so i ll quote for u.
makrygiannis apomnimonevmata
published by : ALMWPOS

page 198: kolokotronis and metaxas and others like them want to create everyday civil wars and groups (fatries). they gave birth to them and it was because of them that the arabs gained ground

page 186: (makrygiannis was send by K. with gennaios the son of theodoros K. against Notaras and the people of trikala (other greeks) )
gennaios said to makrygiannis:
"since you and your group did not pledge/ sack (pliatsiko) in tripolitsa go and do it now in order to please yourself and your men."
makrygiannis did not go. he was not that fond of pliatsiko.

page 209: gennaios was killed in a fight with some men of makrygiannis. makrygiannis writes: and that was the only kolokotronaiko blood shed for the freedom of greece

i wrote these just to offer the "other side". it doesnt mean that makrygiannis is correct. but he explicitly blames K. (and not just once) that he was responsible fot the civil war between the greeks.

but i guess, makrygiannis is just another payed-by-the-americans-traitor.

[Filitsa]

I feel compelled now to apologize to those of you who took me seriously. My posts were intended to be "tongue-in-cheek." Nevertheless ... ... I guess nobody here has felt the wrath of a Maniaoura ...

[Piratis]

My favorite part is the Golden Age of Perikles.