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How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby YFred » Fri Apr 02, 2010 12:07 pm

Oracle wrote:
SKI-preo wrote:"Greeks" are not very good at PR, re DTA. I find it interesting that Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots have similar rates of Thalassemia which is a disease recorded since antiquity that is to say before 1571 AD. Anatolian Turks & kalamaraes do not have nearly as much Thalassemia. In the mix, Turkish Cypriots must have native Cypriot Genes. I've at least 5 who had one grand parent of "Greek" cypriot ancestry. I've met some who are Christian have Turkish names and his parents speak better Greek than they do mainland Turkish. I think it is not so clear cut.


Rates of Thalassemia are subject to the environment (e.g. distance from Africa) and this trait is one of those relatively rapidly acquired survival characteristics which is not an accurate reflection of ancestral kinship.

Be careful when you speak about genes and trying to link them to 'race' as there is only one race of humans. We have yet to find another. Genetically we are all the same (that includes the variations such as blue/brown eyes, pigmentation of skin etc). The most you can do is use DNA markers (not genes) to trace migratory patterns and the larger studies which take account of modern demographics do not support the politics of Turkish desires.

We cannot abandon/deny our Hellenistic roots just to assist the Turks' efforts to eliminate all traces of our cultural identity and existence.

Don't be so stupid, that was done when they controlled Greece for 400 years if there was any left by then. Hellenism is dead and buried only delusion left and only in few.
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Apr 02, 2010 12:10 pm

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miltiades wrote:As an old boy , and very much to the point , let me on this Easter Friday politely ask all foreigners to piss off back to their stupid motherlands and allow Cypriots to be their own masters in their own motherland with their own people , the Cypriot people. Want to fly the Turkish rug or the Greek rug then do us a favour take your rugs and shove them up your arses .Clear enough you bloody foreigners.
Have a good Easter !!
In te meantime I'm now going to listen to some Greek songs whilst having my Turkish coffee !!

Happy Easter to all and enjoy your coffee Milti.


Milti always enjoys his Turkish coffee especially with real Cypriot friends.

Enjoy your Paskalia break Yfred. :lol:
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Postby YFred » Fri Apr 02, 2010 12:11 pm

Oracle wrote:Turks next!




When you meet these guys in Cyprus I hope you are happy.

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Postby Mikiko » Fri Apr 02, 2010 12:14 pm

Which EOKA the terrorists or the lost souls? Both have something in common they were immigrants! :lol:
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Postby YFred » Fri Apr 02, 2010 12:14 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
YFred wrote:
miltiades wrote:As an old boy , and very much to the point , let me on this Easter Friday politely ask all foreigners to piss off back to their stupid motherlands and allow Cypriots to be their own masters in their own motherland with their own people , the Cypriot people. Want to fly the Turkish rug or the Greek rug then do us a favour take your rugs and shove them up your arses .Clear enough you bloody foreigners.
Have a good Easter !!
In te meantime I'm now going to listen to some Greek songs whilst having my Turkish coffee !!

Happy Easter to all and enjoy your coffee Milti.


Milti always enjoys his Turkish coffee especially with real Cypriot friends.

Enjoy your Paskalia break Yfred. :lol:

I've done my cross on my chest and all that, now I have to wait for Ramazan to cover all angles.

Enjoy yours too. I am still waiting for that coffee?
I am off to the country for a few days for a bit of extra activity.
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Postby paliometoxo » Fri Apr 02, 2010 1:04 pm

that flag has black lines across it, its turkish what it used to be?
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Postby Paphitis » Fri Apr 02, 2010 1:56 pm

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Paphitis wrote:A Covenant of All Mankind: Their Idyllic Vision for Cyprus in the world, free from subjugation!



I too think you meant 'ideological EOKA warriors' rather than 'idyllic EOKA warriors'.

... far easier to admit to a simple ideological error than continue a lost position no matter how idyllic it might be. :D


No! I meant Idyllic Vision! as in the vision they had for a free Cyprus without the tyranny of subjugation.

That was not an ideology but a fundamental human right! There is a big difference!
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Postby Oracle » Fri Apr 02, 2010 2:09 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Paphitis wrote:A Covenant of All Mankind: Their Idyllic Vision for Cyprus in the world, free from subjugation!



I too think you meant 'ideological EOKA warriors' rather than 'idyllic EOKA warriors'.

... far easier to admit to a simple ideological error than continue a lost position no matter how idyllic it might be. :D


No! I meant Idyllic Vision! as in the vision they had for a free Cyprus without the tyranny of subjugation.

That was not an ideology but a fundamental human right! There is a big difference!


A most honourable vision.

In light of the above, then perhaps you need to restructure your sentence to reflect your explanation:

"Do not tarnish their name for you have absolutely no idea what these idyllic EOKA Warriors were fighting for."

:D
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Postby Paphitis » Fri Apr 02, 2010 2:14 pm

Oracle wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Paphitis wrote:A Covenant of All Mankind: Their Idyllic Vision for Cyprus in the world, free from subjugation!



I too think you meant 'ideological EOKA warriors' rather than 'idyllic EOKA warriors'.

... far easier to admit to a simple ideological error than continue a lost position no matter how idyllic it might be. :D


No! I meant Idyllic Vision! as in the vision they had for a free Cyprus without the tyranny of subjugation.

That was not an ideology but a fundamental human right! There is a big difference!


A most honourable vision.

In light of the above, then perhaps you need to restructure your sentence to reflect your explanation:

"Do not tarnish their name for you have absolutely no idea what these idyllic EOKA Warriors were fighting for."

:D


Idyllic Warriors as in EOKA Warriors with an Idyllic Vision.

Yes, their vision was honourable!
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Postby Epiktitos » Fri Apr 02, 2010 2:21 pm

Paphitis wrote:Idyllic Warriors as in EOKA Warriors with an Idyllic Vision.

Yes, their vision was honourable!

Good to see that you at least understand your words once someone else has taken the time to explain them to you.
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