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Postby Paphitis » Sat Apr 03, 2010 6:45 pm

Linichka wrote:It's you who is the "delusional git", Paphitis. How stupid to insist that only that which is detected by our five rather blunted senses exists. If all were of a like mind, we'd still be in the Dark Ages.


How convenient!

Let's make up a silly fantasy, and when the more rational are disbelieving, let's accuse them of being narrow since they are unable to detect this fictitious being with their 5 senses!

Sorry, but I don't believe in Father Christmas or the fairies either! :lol:
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Apr 03, 2010 7:31 pm

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Get Real! wrote:Those of us who believe in God simply throw our hands in the air unable to explain the birth and existence of the cosmos, but more importantly we are fully aware of our mortality and insignificance in the greater picture of things.

Knowing our limitations as humans, keeping both our feet firmly on the ground, and shying from making baseless assumptions over matters that are clearly above and beyond us, are all essential characteristics of human maturity.

The day we acknowledge how little we know is the day our enlightenment begins.

That's where you are mistaken.

Just because a few delusional gits, like you, are so weak and require the comfort of an omnipotent creator, so that you can sleep well at night believing that there is a life ever after in heaven, doesn't mean that Science won't put your delusional theories to the test until it comes up with answers, as it has done so through Darwin's Evolution!

You’re just too immature to be discussing matters pertaining to God... Image
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Postby Bananiot » Sat Apr 03, 2010 8:35 pm

My thread has been reduced to the usual debate on evolution. So be it. Christian theology has adopted, word for word, the biblical explanation and of course Genesis, the creation of all forms of life from nothing, straight to their present form. When you believe in a creator you need to uphold his values and the idea that his creations are not perfect and need to evolve is certainly not compatible with a perfect creator. Extinction of species cannot also be tolerated because something that the creator has created cannot simply seize to exist.

Evolution simply means that nothing is static and that living things are also capable of change. Galaxies, languages, political systems etc are constantly changing. Change is the order of this world, not stalemate. When we talk about evolution of organisms we mean the changes that take place from generation to generation. Ontogenesis is not evolution. The main tool of evolution is natural selection and it allows organisms to respond to changes to their environment. It does not have an ulterior motive. It did not aim at creating man, for example. We evolved merely by accident. This purely mechanistic conception is not understood by those that believe that everything that happens serves a purpose. Nor is it correct to say that everything natural is correct and proper.

Evolution and natural selection simply exist. Doubts about evolution have been dispersed since one hundred years ago. GR and all those that deny evolution do not use scientific arguments or experimental evidence to advance their points but merely use some nebulous religious belief that there is something out there.

In the USA and in some other countries, there has been a recent surge of lobbying for a return to the creationism theory. This is not a scientific but a social phenomenon, which is a key component of a reactionary ideology that threatens the quality and integrity of public education.

In a nutshell, those that promote creationism are simply reactionary bigots who, because they are incapable of comprehending the complexity of this world, feel more secure when entrenched behind old ways and keep anything new outside of their sphere of their perception.
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Postby Bananiot » Sat Apr 03, 2010 11:02 pm

It is 23:50 now. Time for Christ to rise from the cold, lifeless grave. Priests are putting in some overtime in the numerous churches all across Cyprus. I have just taken Stacy out for a walk, in the brisk spring night. Rather she took me out, to be more precise. I saw women holding candles entering cars to shoot off to a church, no doubt near their house. Women with tinted blond hair and plugged eyebrows, who remember Christ twice a year, when born and when killed/resurrected. Soon now, they will bring the special light into their homes and guess what, nothing will happen, it will be as you were, come tomorrow. They will protect the light on their way home and if the wind blows the light out they will ask another believer to relight it with their own light. I switch the telly on. All stations are transmitting, live of course, from some church. The priest has just announced that Christ has risen and a sigh of relief is breathed by the believers. I of course had no doubt he would do the trick. After all, he is God, what is a minute thing such as resurrection for him? This wraps things up for this year. More of the same at about this time next year.
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Postby Gasman » Sat Apr 03, 2010 11:11 pm

I am sure all the GCs will be attending a liturgy somewhere right now Bananiot.

I watched the shenanigans setting off from St Lazarus here last night. From the comfort of the Taratsa Restaurant terrace! Lovely night for it.
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Postby Get Real! » Sun Apr 04, 2010 3:33 am

Bananiot wrote:GR and all those that deny evolution do not use scientific arguments or experimental evidence to advance their points but merely use some nebulous religious belief that there is something out there.

Our “science” is primitive insignificant rubbish that God probably laughs at for we can’t even harness the simple natural phenomena occurring on our planet like lightning, tornadoes, earthquakes, floods, etc, still relying on crude oil even though we’re in the 21st century, and you think we’ve got what it takes to comprehend and explain the cosmos? :roll:

Have a good look at this foolish monkey bound to a pile of metal who can’t even cure his simple muscular dystrophy yet wants to explain the cosmos!

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Is he for real? :? I mean, dude… you can’t even find your penis and you’re looking for black holes in the universe when there’s one right in front of you? :?
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Postby Gasman » Sun Apr 04, 2010 8:16 am

God probably laughs at for we can’t even harness the simple natural phenomena occurring on our planet like lightning, tornadoes, earthquakes, floods, etc,


This will be the 'all powerful god' you believe CREATED all the above? And who also obviously has NO power to stop or influence any of the above killing millions of innocent people?

I'd rather put my faith in the mere mortals who at least TRY to explain our universe (and help the victims of the 'natural phenomena') than some invisible entity whose cruelty can be explained by 'god works in mysterious ways'.
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Postby Bananiot » Sun Apr 04, 2010 9:40 am

God laughing at his creations? That is an interesting thought of a cynical God that is embedded in the mind of GR, god bless his soul.
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Postby miltiades » Sun Apr 04, 2010 10:11 am

GR follows God , he also follows ...Bin Laden , so there you have it a blind leading , or rather following the blind !!

However I wish you all a Kalon Pasha ke XRISTOS ANESTI ,religion is one thing tradition and culture is another , so I shall crack an egg or two , answer with Alithos Anesti and wear my best ....cloths all day long , just as we did as children .
Stin iyiasas re pedia !!
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Postby Oracle » Sun Apr 04, 2010 10:31 am

Get Real! wrote:
Bananiot wrote:GR and all those that deny evolution do not use scientific arguments or experimental evidence to advance their points but merely use some nebulous religious belief that there is something out there.

Our “science” is primitive insignificant rubbish that God probably laughs at for we can’t even harness the simple natural phenomena occurring on our planet like lightning, tornadoes, earthquakes, floods, etc, still relying on crude oil even though we’re in the 21st century, and you think we’ve got what it takes to comprehend and explain the cosmos? :roll:

Have a good look at this foolish monkey bound to a pile of metal who can’t even cure his simple muscular dystrophy yet wants to explain the cosmos!

Image

Is he for real? :? I mean, dude… you can’t even find your penis and you’re looking for black holes in the universe when there’s one right in front of you? :?


Do you think God has crippled Hawking as punishment for daring to seek the workings of "God's Greatness"?
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