by Bananiot » Sat Apr 03, 2010 7:39 am
Anyone who believes that something can appear out of nothing (nothingness = the absence of anything at all) shouldn’t be calling himself a scientist because the essence of a “scientist” is to conduct research in order to prove or disprove a subject matter, but if that subject matter is non existent to them and thereby inaccessible then no such research can ever take place, and the scientist is therefore reduced to philosophizing contrary to the rules of applied science!
by Get Real! » Sat Apr 03, 2010 1:37 pm
Paphitis wrote:Get Real! wrote:Paphitis wrote:Get Real! wrote:CopperLine wrote:Paphitis wrote:Evolution is still not taught in schools and Education Minister Dr Andreas Demetriou was shocked the other day when he visited a top school in Nicosia and watched a biology lesson. It happened that the day was the day for the 200 years of the birth of Darwin. He asked them if they knew about this day. Of course nobody knew (not even their teacher, probably). He told them and then he was asked "who is Darwin?". He tried to explain and the only response he got from a pupil was "is he the joker that claims we came from monkeys?"
The God Delusion and The Greatest Show on Earth by Richard Dawkins should become part of the curriculum and all religious content must be removed from schools and State TV.
Agreed.
Anyone who believes that something can appear out of nothing (nothingness = the absence of anything at all) shouldn’t be calling himself a scientist because the essence of a “scientist” is to conduct research in order to prove or disprove a subject matter, but if that subject matter is non existent to them and thereby inaccessible then no such research can ever take place, and the scientist is therefore reduced to philosophizing contrary to the rules of applied science!
Your lack of intellect in such matters is apparent, as highlighted by Bananiot!
Science deals with what can be proven, not sheer fantasy about "Intelligent Design".
If anything it is YOUR belief that RESTS ENTIRELY on something forming out of nothing thereby making it TOTALLY unscientific!
You just told us that you believe in Intelligent Design.
You stated that something can't appear from nothing.
So who designed the watchmaker?
by Get Real! » Sat Apr 03, 2010 1:42 pm
Bananiot wrote:GRAnyone who believes that something can appear out of nothing (nothingness = the absence of anything at all) shouldn’t be calling himself a scientist because the essence of a “scientist” is to conduct research in order to prove or disprove a subject matter, but if that subject matter is non existent to them and thereby inaccessible then no such research can ever take place, and the scientist is therefore reduced to philosophizing contrary to the rules of applied science!
Now, show us the link!
by Paphitis » Sat Apr 03, 2010 1:42 pm
Get Real! wrote:Paphitis wrote:Get Real! wrote:Paphitis wrote:Get Real! wrote:CopperLine wrote:Paphitis wrote:Evolution is still not taught in schools and Education Minister Dr Andreas Demetriou was shocked the other day when he visited a top school in Nicosia and watched a biology lesson. It happened that the day was the day for the 200 years of the birth of Darwin. He asked them if they knew about this day. Of course nobody knew (not even their teacher, probably). He told them and then he was asked "who is Darwin?". He tried to explain and the only response he got from a pupil was "is he the joker that claims we came from monkeys?"
The God Delusion and The Greatest Show on Earth by Richard Dawkins should become part of the curriculum and all religious content must be removed from schools and State TV.
Agreed.
Anyone who believes that something can appear out of nothing (nothingness = the absence of anything at all) shouldn’t be calling himself a scientist because the essence of a “scientist” is to conduct research in order to prove or disprove a subject matter, but if that subject matter is non existent to them and thereby inaccessible then no such research can ever take place, and the scientist is therefore reduced to philosophizing contrary to the rules of applied science!
Your lack of intellect in such matters is apparent, as highlighted by Bananiot!
Science deals with what can be proven, not sheer fantasy about "Intelligent Design".
If anything it is YOUR belief that RESTS ENTIRELY on something forming out of nothing thereby making it TOTALLY unscientific!
You just told us that you believe in Intelligent Design.
You stated that something can't appear from nothing.
So who designed the watchmaker?
Not having the answer to that or even knowing if it is applicable, doesn’t entitle us to resort to ridiculous assumptions that something formed out of nothing to fill in the missing gap! That’s something you should NEVER forget.
by Paphitis » Sat Apr 03, 2010 1:44 pm
Get Real! wrote:Bananiot wrote:GRAnyone who believes that something can appear out of nothing (nothingness = the absence of anything at all) shouldn’t be calling himself a scientist because the essence of a “scientist” is to conduct research in order to prove or disprove a subject matter, but if that subject matter is non existent to them and thereby inaccessible then no such research can ever take place, and the scientist is therefore reduced to philosophizing contrary to the rules of applied science!
Now, show us the link!
The link to what? The above is my attempt to explain that scientists should put their actions where their mouth is before suggesting the theory of evolution with so much certainty!
If the very START of their theory doesn’t even get off the ground (something forming out of nothing) then they should just SHUT IT until they can prove it.
by Get Real! » Sat Apr 03, 2010 1:46 pm
by Paphitis » Sat Apr 03, 2010 1:51 pm
Get Real! wrote:Not surprisingly, you all failed miserably to prove anything when I challenged you here...
http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=23830
…and you’ll fail again!
by Oracle » Sat Apr 03, 2010 2:05 pm
Get Real! wrote:Bananiot wrote:GRAnyone who believes that something can appear out of nothing (nothingness = the absence of anything at all) shouldn’t be calling himself a scientist because the essence of a “scientist” is to conduct research in order to prove or disprove a subject matter, but if that subject matter is non existent to them and thereby inaccessible then no such research can ever take place, and the scientist is therefore reduced to philosophizing contrary to the rules of applied science!
Now, show us the link!
The link to what? The above is my attempt to explain that scientists should put their actions where their mouth is before suggesting the theory of evolution with so much certainty!
If the very START of their theory doesn’t even get off the ground (something forming out of nothing) then they should just SHUT IT until they can prove it.
by Paphitis » Sat Apr 03, 2010 2:18 pm
Oracle wrote:Get Real! wrote:Bananiot wrote:GRAnyone who believes that something can appear out of nothing (nothingness = the absence of anything at all) shouldn’t be calling himself a scientist because the essence of a “scientist” is to conduct research in order to prove or disprove a subject matter, but if that subject matter is non existent to them and thereby inaccessible then no such research can ever take place, and the scientist is therefore reduced to philosophizing contrary to the rules of applied science!
Now, show us the link!
The link to what? The above is my attempt to explain that scientists should put their actions where their mouth is before suggesting the theory of evolution with so much certainty!
If the very START of their theory doesn’t even get off the ground (something forming out of nothing) then they should just SHUT IT until they can prove it.
You are making the same mistake as the idiots above (naming no names) who presume that the Theory of Evolution explains everything. It doesn't even pretend to.
It just explains how life started on this Earth and how it progressed to where it is today. On this Earth we have, and always had, a mixture of chemicals which eventually combined to make RNA/DNA and in turn proteins etc (and I don't have to explain that in greater detail) which made cells, which combined, which made higher organism etc up to Man. That is all it explains and as such does not have ONE piece of evidence to discredit it.
What the Theory of Evolution does not do is explain how life may originate on other planets, or indeed how planets (non-organic life) themselves came to be.
So, please detach your arguments about God (yet to be explained) and the Big Bang (yet to be explained) from Evolution (explicable, falsifiable and at present 100% correct).
by Get Real! » Sat Apr 03, 2010 2:21 pm
Oracle wrote:Get Real! wrote:Bananiot wrote:GRAnyone who believes that something can appear out of nothing (nothingness = the absence of anything at all) shouldn’t be calling himself a scientist because the essence of a “scientist” is to conduct research in order to prove or disprove a subject matter, but if that subject matter is non existent to them and thereby inaccessible then no such research can ever take place, and the scientist is therefore reduced to philosophizing contrary to the rules of applied science!
Now, show us the link!
The link to what? The above is my attempt to explain that scientists should put their actions where their mouth is before suggesting the theory of evolution with so much certainty!
If the very START of their theory doesn’t even get off the ground (something forming out of nothing) then they should just SHUT IT until they can prove it.
You are making the same mistake as the idiots above (naming no names) who presume that the Theory of Evolution explains everything. It doesn't even pretend to.
It just explains how life started on this Earth and how it progressed to where it is today. On this Earth we have, and always had, a mixture of chemicals which eventually combined to make RNA/DNA and in turn proteins etc (and I don't have to explain that in greater detail) which made cells, which combined, which made higher organism etc up to Man. That is all it explains and as such does not have ONE piece of evidence to discredit it.
What the Theory of Evolution does not do is explain how life may originate on other planets, or indeed how planets (non-organic life) themselves came to be.
So, please detach your arguments about God (yet to be explained) and the Big Bang (yet to be explained) from Evolution (explicable, falsifiable and at present 100% correct).
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