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[miltiades]

A few words ought to be said for this latest carnage at the heart of Moscow , perpetrators , or savages as they really are , premeditated and planned this horrific attack targeting completely innocent people .What ever it is that drives these savages to commit such a hideous crime is no doubt a sick decadent ideology that decides that innocents must be targeted .
A bloody disgrace to the human race.

[YFred]

A few words ought to be said for this latest carnage at the heart of Moscow , perpetrators , or savages as they really are , premeditated and planned this horrific attack targeting completely innocent people .What ever it is that drives these savages to commit such a hideous crime is no doubt a sick decadent ideology that decides that innocents must be targeted .
A bloody disgrace to the human race.

This is a reaction to the savage attack on Grozny a few years ago by Russian Tanks, Helicpters, and Warplanes on defenceless Chechens.
Two wrongs don't make a right, but if you are looking for the root of it, that's where you'll find it.

People will fight with what they have to defend themselves and revenge their losses.
The real guilty ones are those in power who create the environment. May Yeltsin and Putin rot in hell.

[miltiades]

A few words ought to be said for this latest carnage at the heart of Moscow , perpetrators , or savages as they really are , premeditated and planned this horrific attack targeting completely innocent people .What ever it is that drives these savages to commit such a hideous crime is no doubt a sick decadent ideology that decides that innocents must be targeted .
A bloody disgrace to the human race.

This is a reaction to the savage attack on Grozny a few years ago by Russian Tanks, Helicpters, and Warplanes on defenceless Chechens.
Two wrongs don't make a right, but if you are looking for the root of it, that's where you'll find it.

People will fight with what they have to defend themselves and revenge their losses.
The real guilty ones are those in power who create the environment. May Yeltsin and Putin rot in hell.

I was wondering which would be first to undermine the severity of this barbaric savage act. THERE CAN NEVER NEVER BE AN EXCUSE OR A COMPARISON WITH ANOTHER VIOLENT ACT . THIS ACT IS A PREMEDITADED BARBARIC AND SAVAGE ACT. MAY THEY , SINCE THEY BELEIVE IN A SICK IDEOLOGY , BURN IN HELL.
You and I could have been on that train but neither You nor I are responsible for what went on in Crozny.

[YFred]

A few words ought to be said for this latest carnage at the heart of Moscow , perpetrators , or savages as they really are , premeditated and planned this horrific attack targeting completely innocent people .What ever it is that drives these savages to commit such a hideous crime is no doubt a sick decadent ideology that decides that innocents must be targeted .
A bloody disgrace to the human race.

This is a reaction to the savage attack on Grozny a few years ago by Russian Tanks, Helicpters, and Warplanes on defenceless Chechens.
Two wrongs don't make a right, but if you are looking for the root of it, that's where you'll find it.

People will fight with what they have to defend themselves and revenge their losses.
The real guilty ones are those in power who create the environment. May Yeltsin and Putin rot in hell.

I was wondering which would be first to undermine the severity of this barbaric savage act. THERE CAN NEVER NEVER BE AN EXCUSE OR A COMPARISON WITH ANOTHER VIOLENT ACT . THIS ACT IS A PREMEDITADED BARBARIC AND SAVAGE ACT. MAY THEY , SINCE THEY BELEIVE IN A SICK IDEOLOGY , BURN IN HELL.
You and I could have been on that train but neither You nor I are responsible for what went on in Crozny.

I have thought long and hard about this. When IRA was putting bombs in London and there was a possibility that I would be killed, I made sure my family knew my opinion on this matter. They were not to blame the IRA for their actions.
You may think very badly of these people, but they have suffered incredible depths of despair under Yeltsin and then Putin to this day. I have always supported all peoples right to self determination and Chechens are no exception. These people are using the weapons they have available to them, nothing more. If Yeltsin did not flatten Grozny, these people would have no cuase to bomb anybody in Moscow. May Yeltsin and Putin as well As Medvedev rot in hell where they belong. The effected Russian should be looking to their own government when looking for answers.
When the Russian MPs stood up to Yeltsin, he sent the tanks in to crush the MPs. I seem to remember ordinary russian folk standing by the side watching yeltsin's tanks attack the equally defencess MPs. We as the population are directly responsible for what our government does in our name whether we vote for them or not. That's the way of the world.

[miltiades]

A few words ought to be said for this latest carnage at the heart of Moscow , perpetrators , or savages as they really are , premeditated and planned this horrific attack targeting completely innocent people .What ever it is that drives these savages to commit such a hideous crime is no doubt a sick decadent ideology that decides that innocents must be targeted .
A bloody disgrace to the human race.

This is a reaction to the savage attack on Grozny a few years ago by Russian Tanks, Helicpters, and Warplanes on defenceless Chechens.
Two wrongs don't make a right, but if you are looking for the root of it, that's where you'll find it.

People will fight with what they have to defend themselves and revenge their losses.
The real guilty ones are those in power who create the environment. May Yeltsin and Putin rot in hell.

I was wondering which would be first to undermine the severity of this barbaric savage act. THERE CAN NEVER NEVER BE AN EXCUSE OR A COMPARISON WITH ANOTHER VIOLENT ACT . THIS ACT IS A PREMEDITADED BARBARIC AND SAVAGE ACT. MAY THEY , SINCE THEY BELEIVE IN A SICK IDEOLOGY , BURN IN HELL.
You and I could have been on that train but neither You nor I are responsible for what went on in Crozny.

I have thought long and hard about this. When IRA was putting bombs in London and there was a possibility that I would be killed, I made sure my family knew my opinion on this matter. They were not to blame the IRA for their actions.
You may think very badly of these people, but they have suffered incredible depths of despair under Yeltsin and then Putin to this day. I have always supported all peoples right to self determination and Chechens are no exception. These people are using the weapons they have available to them, nothing more. If Yeltsin did not flatten Grozny, these people would have no cuase to bomb anybody in Moscow. May Yeltsin and Putin as well As Medvedev rot in hell where they belong. The effected Russian should be looking to their own government when looking for answers.
When the Russian MPs stood up to Yeltsin, he sent the tanks in to crush the MPs. I seem to remember ordinary russian folk standing by the side watching yeltsin's tanks attack the equally defencess MPs. We as the population are directly responsible for what our government does in our name whether we vote for them or not. That's the way of the world.

Fred , I can see that you too , just as GR , is utterly misguided. None of the examples that you gave above can be considered by another human as in any way comparable to these barbaric savage acts. What the hell are you talking about Fred by saying "these people are using the weapons available to them " !! Disgraceful that you or anyone else could possibly draw such comparisons. Are you saying that such vile acts are acceptable or understandable ?
No Sir they are the sick acts of sick perverted barbarians. The targeting of civilians , PREMEDITATED , is an act of savagery and one that only barbaric animals can commit.

[YFred]

A few words ought to be said for this latest carnage at the heart of Moscow , perpetrators , or savages as they really are , premeditated and planned this horrific attack targeting completely innocent people .What ever it is that drives these savages to commit such a hideous crime is no doubt a sick decadent ideology that decides that innocents must be targeted .
A bloody disgrace to the human race.

This is a reaction to the savage attack on Grozny a few years ago by Russian Tanks, Helicpters, and Warplanes on defenceless Chechens.
Two wrongs don't make a right, but if you are looking for the root of it, that's where you'll find it.

People will fight with what they have to defend themselves and revenge their losses.
The real guilty ones are those in power who create the environment. May Yeltsin and Putin rot in hell.

I was wondering which would be first to undermine the severity of this barbaric savage act. THERE CAN NEVER NEVER BE AN EXCUSE OR A COMPARISON WITH ANOTHER VIOLENT ACT . THIS ACT IS A PREMEDITADED BARBARIC AND SAVAGE ACT. MAY THEY , SINCE THEY BELEIVE IN A SICK IDEOLOGY , BURN IN HELL.
You and I could have been on that train but neither You nor I are responsible for what went on in Crozny.

I have thought long and hard about this. When IRA was putting bombs in London and there was a possibility that I would be killed, I made sure my family knew my opinion on this matter. They were not to blame the IRA for their actions.
You may think very badly of these people, but they have suffered incredible depths of despair under Yeltsin and then Putin to this day. I have always supported all peoples right to self determination and Chechens are no exception. These people are using the weapons they have available to them, nothing more. If Yeltsin did not flatten Grozny, these people would have no cuase to bomb anybody in Moscow. May Yeltsin and Putin as well As Medvedev rot in hell where they belong. The effected Russian should be looking to their own government when looking for answers.
When the Russian MPs stood up to Yeltsin, he sent the tanks in to crush the MPs. I seem to remember ordinary russian folk standing by the side watching yeltsin's tanks attack the equally defencess MPs. We as the population are directly responsible for what our government does in our name whether we vote for them or not. That's the way of the world.

Fred , I can see that you too , just as GR , is utterly misguided. None of the examples that you gave above can be considered by another human as in any way comparable to these barbaric savage acts. What the hell are you talking about Fred by saying "these people are using the weapons available to them " !! Disgraceful that you or anyone else could possibly draw such comparisons. Are you saying that such vile acts are acceptable or understandable ?
No Sir they are the sick acts of sick perverted barbarians. The targeting of civilians , PREMEDITATED , is an act of savagery and one that only barbaric animals can commit.

Come on Miltiades, what do you expect them to do, turn up with their bombs strapped up to their body and face tanks, helicopters and warplanes? Of course that is the only weapon they have and they would be stupid not to use them. If I died tomorow on a bomb put on by a muslim on an underground because of what Brits did in Iraq or Afghanistan, my children are under strict instructions not to blame them but the two governments who started it in the first place. Where is your humanity gone. While our government kill hundreds of thousands of people do we bear no responsibility? We do.

The only way to do this is to have equal numbers of representative on each side with equal weaponary with the level playing field and let them fight it out amongst themselves. As things stand whilst the chinese, the russians, the Yanks and Israilis are so armed, people will fight them with what ever they can and if it means civilian casualties then it will have to be. How many Civilians did America or Russia or Israil kill in the last 10 years. May they all go to hell.

[miltiades]

Come on Miltiades, what do you expect them to do,

Fred , you astound me !! What do I expect them to do !!!!
Well certainly not what YOU expect them to do mate !!
Fred you are out of your mind mate.
You are suggesting that the G/Cs should strap them selves with explosives and detonate themselves in Kyrenia , Famagusta , Morphou , because they can not face Turkeys military might !!
Are you suggesting that these barbarians were acting in good faith, if so , do not bother with any further nonsense .

[Zorba]

I get it now. So if one of my relatives got killed in that bomb blast,its okay to massacre Freds family in revenge because he condoned it ?

[miltiades]

I get it now. So if one of my relatives got killed in that bomb blast,its okay to massacre Freds family in revenge because he condoned it ?

But what ...else can you do !!

[Oracle]