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Apoel Fans' attack over Turkish Cypriots (again)

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Postby bill cobbett » Thu Apr 08, 2010 2:32 am

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repulsewarrior wrote:vp, you are such a hypocrite; any links.

woofwoof my dogmatic crow, why not just say nothing instead of playing the audience.

help please, someone with the where with all, give this propagandist the links he whimpers for...


Er.... one minute please RW, I have them here somewhere ..... now where did I put them ....?


http://mondediplo.com/2008/08/04cyprus .... tells us ............>>>>

"On taking office, Christofias apologised, the first president of Cyprus to do so, for the crimes against Turkish Cypriots committed 35 years before."

Now why couldn't VP look that up I wonder?
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Postby BirKibrisli » Thu Apr 08, 2010 2:45 am

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BirKibrisli wrote:I know Halil gardash...However it infuriates me when people deny the very events and experiences I went through as a child and a teenager in Cyprus,and try to revise the history I lived through and suffered from....Things can never be completely sorted out unless we all come to terms with our bloody past,analyse and accept the events objectively,and be prepared to change our opinions about certain things...Oh,and learn to say "Sorry" instead of putting all the blame on the other side...


Hang on a minute. We've already established that the Cypriot president apologised to the TCs, on behalf of his community, some while ago. The goodwill gesture was not reciprocated by Talat, who has still accepted no blame; which has left Christofias exposed and unable to take matters further in analysing and accepting past events objectively.

I'm sorry BirKibrisli, but who exactly needs to take the lead and learn to say "sorry"?


Half hearted expressions of regret are not enough,MP...But it is better than nothing....Talat simply do not have a free hand to apologise for anything,even if he thought there was something to apologise for...

What we need from the GC side is an admission from the RoC government and the Church that Enosis was a disasterous adventure which has brought the present calamity on all Cypriots...Sitting on the government benches,enjoying the sole power and legitimacy knowing how that legitimacy came about in 1964,and paying lip service to the suffering of the TCs will not get us far...You cannot compare the obligations of the two sides...One side is parading around as the legitimate representative of all Cypriots...The onus is on that side to come up with measures to bring about trust and understanding and respect amongst all Cypriots...After 50 years of living under emergency conditions,depending on the kindness of their big cousins,and trying to survive with their identity as Turkish Cypriots intact,the TCs have very limited power to affect any meaningful change...The ball is squarely in the RoC court now...And it has been there for some time with little willingness shown to play the game fairly...Time for you guys to get a reality check...And accept your responsibility for Cyprob,which is overwhelming...
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Apr 08, 2010 3:01 am

BirKibrisli wrote:Half hearted expressions of regret are not enough,MP...But it is better than nothing....Talat simply do not have a free hand to apologise for anything,even if he thought there was something to apologise for...

What we need from the GC side is an admission from the RoC government and the Church that Enosis was a disasterous adventure which has brought the present calamity on all Cypriots...Sitting on the government benches,enjoying the sole power and legitimacy knowing how that legitimacy came about in 1964,and paying lip service to the suffering of the TCs will not get us far...You cannot compare the obligations of the two sides...One side is parading around as the legitimate representative of all Cypriots...The onus is on that side to come up with measures to bring about trust and understanding and respect amongst all Cypriots...After 50 years of living under emergency conditions,depending on the kindness of their big cousins,and trying to survive with their identity as Turkish Cypriots intact,the TCs have very limited power to affect any meaningful change...The ball is squarely in the RoC court now...And it has been there for some time with little willingness shown to play the game fairly...Time for you guys to get a reality check...And accept your responsibility for Cyprob,which is overwhelming...

Well you've certainly convinced me! Here's my part... :D

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Postby BirKibrisli » Thu Apr 08, 2010 3:22 am

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BirKibrisli wrote:Half hearted expressions of regret are not enough,MP...But it is better than nothing....Talat simply do not have a free hand to apologise for anything,even if he thought there was something to apologise for...

What we need from the GC side is an admission from the RoC government and the Church that Enosis was a disasterous adventure which has brought the present calamity on all Cypriots...Sitting on the government benches,enjoying the sole power and legitimacy knowing how that legitimacy came about in 1964,and paying lip service to the suffering of the TCs will not get us far...You cannot compare the obligations of the two sides...One side is parading around as the legitimate representative of all Cypriots...The onus is on that side to come up with measures to bring about trust and understanding and respect amongst all Cypriots...After 50 years of living under emergency conditions,depending on the kindness of their big cousins,and trying to survive with their identity as Turkish Cypriots intact,the TCs have very limited power to affect any meaningful change...The ball is squarely in the RoC court now...And it has been there for some time with little willingness shown to play the game fairly...Time for you guys to get a reality check...And accept your responsibility for Cyprob,which is overwhelming...

Well you've certainly convinced me! Here's my part... :D

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Keep going the way you are,and you will soon find a Turkish soldier at your door,helping you put that finger(if you are lucky :wink: ) in the appropriate part of your anatomy...You wouldn't be smiling then... :)
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Postby YFred » Thu Apr 08, 2010 10:01 am

BirKibrisli wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:Half hearted expressions of regret are not enough,MP...But it is better than nothing....Talat simply do not have a free hand to apologise for anything,even if he thought there was something to apologise for...

What we need from the GC side is an admission from the RoC government and the Church that Enosis was a disasterous adventure which has brought the present calamity on all Cypriots...Sitting on the government benches,enjoying the sole power and legitimacy knowing how that legitimacy came about in 1964,and paying lip service to the suffering of the TCs will not get us far...You cannot compare the obligations of the two sides...One side is parading around as the legitimate representative of all Cypriots...The onus is on that side to come up with measures to bring about trust and understanding and respect amongst all Cypriots...After 50 years of living under emergency conditions,depending on the kindness of their big cousins,and trying to survive with their identity as Turkish Cypriots intact,the TCs have very limited power to affect any meaningful change...The ball is squarely in the RoC court now...And it has been there for some time with little willingness shown to play the game fairly...Time for you guys to get a reality check...And accept your responsibility for Cyprob,which is overwhelming...

Well you've certainly convinced me! Here's my part... :D

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Keep going the way you are,and you will soon find a Turkish soldier at your door,helping you put that finger(if you are lucky :wink: ) in the appropriate part of your anatomy...You wouldn't be smiling then... :)

I don't think it will be his finger that will find his nether regions. But one thing is for certain, GR will enjoy it in his Greek style. Especially when he is at the receiving end.
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Postby DT. » Thu Apr 08, 2010 10:09 am

BirKibrisli wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:I know Halil gardash...However it infuriates me when people deny the very events and experiences I went through as a child and a teenager in Cyprus,and try to revise the history I lived through and suffered from....Things can never be completely sorted out unless we all come to terms with our bloody past,analyse and accept the events objectively,and be prepared to change our opinions about certain things...Oh,and learn to say "Sorry" instead of putting all the blame on the other side...


Hang on a minute. We've already established that the Cypriot president apologised to the TCs, on behalf of his community, some while ago. The goodwill gesture was not reciprocated by Talat, who has still accepted no blame; which has left Christofias exposed and unable to take matters further in analysing and accepting past events objectively.

I'm sorry BirKibrisli, but who exactly needs to take the lead and learn to say "sorry"?


Half hearted expressions of regret are not enough,MP...But it is better than nothing....Talat simply do not have a free hand to apologise for anything,even if he thought there was something to apologise for...

What we need from the GC side is an admission from the RoC government and the Church that Enosis was a disasterous adventure which has brought the present calamity on all Cypriots...Sitting on the government benches,enjoying the sole power and legitimacy knowing how that legitimacy came about in 1964,and paying lip service to the suffering of the TCs will not get us far...You cannot compare the obligations of the two sides...One side is parading around as the legitimate representative of all Cypriots...The onus is on that side to come up with measures to bring about trust and understanding and respect amongst all Cypriots...After 50 years of living under emergency conditions,depending on the kindness of their big cousins,and trying to survive with their identity as Turkish Cypriots intact,the TCs have very limited power to affect any meaningful change...The ball is squarely in the RoC court now...And it has been there for some time with little willingness shown to play the game fairly...Time for you guys to get a reality check...And accept your responsibility for Cyprob,which is overwhelming...


Kindness of their cousins?
Even if he believed he had something to apologise for?
You're fast becoming a bigger fanatic than some others here!
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Postby YFred » Thu Apr 08, 2010 10:11 am

DT. wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:I know Halil gardash...However it infuriates me when people deny the very events and experiences I went through as a child and a teenager in Cyprus,and try to revise the history I lived through and suffered from....Things can never be completely sorted out unless we all come to terms with our bloody past,analyse and accept the events objectively,and be prepared to change our opinions about certain things...Oh,and learn to say "Sorry" instead of putting all the blame on the other side...


Hang on a minute. We've already established that the Cypriot president apologised to the TCs, on behalf of his community, some while ago. The goodwill gesture was not reciprocated by Talat, who has still accepted no blame; which has left Christofias exposed and unable to take matters further in analysing and accepting past events objectively.

I'm sorry BirKibrisli, but who exactly needs to take the lead and learn to say "sorry"?


Half hearted expressions of regret are not enough,MP...But it is better than nothing....Talat simply do not have a free hand to apologise for anything,even if he thought there was something to apologise for...

What we need from the GC side is an admission from the RoC government and the Church that Enosis was a disasterous adventure which has brought the present calamity on all Cypriots...Sitting on the government benches,enjoying the sole power and legitimacy knowing how that legitimacy came about in 1964,and paying lip service to the suffering of the TCs will not get us far...You cannot compare the obligations of the two sides...One side is parading around as the legitimate representative of all Cypriots...The onus is on that side to come up with measures to bring about trust and understanding and respect amongst all Cypriots...After 50 years of living under emergency conditions,depending on the kindness of their big cousins,and trying to survive with their identity as Turkish Cypriots intact,the TCs have very limited power to affect any meaningful change...The ball is squarely in the RoC court now...And it has been there for some time with little willingness shown to play the game fairly...Time for you guys to get a reality check...And accept your responsibility for Cyprob,which is overwhelming...


Kindness of their cousins?
Even if he believed he had something to apologise for?
You're fast becoming a bigger fanatic than some others here!

What?
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Postby BirKibrisli » Thu Apr 08, 2010 5:31 pm

DT. wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:I know Halil gardash...However it infuriates me when people deny the very events and experiences I went through as a child and a teenager in Cyprus,and try to revise the history I lived through and suffered from....Things can never be completely sorted out unless we all come to terms with our bloody past,analyse and accept the events objectively,and be prepared to change our opinions about certain things...Oh,and learn to say "Sorry" instead of putting all the blame on the other side...


Hang on a minute. We've already established that the Cypriot president apologised to the TCs, on behalf of his community, some while ago. The goodwill gesture was not reciprocated by Talat, who has still accepted no blame; which has left Christofias exposed and unable to take matters further in analysing and accepting past events objectively.

I'm sorry BirKibrisli, but who exactly needs to take the lead and learn to say "sorry"?


Half hearted expressions of regret are not enough,MP...But it is better than nothing....Talat simply do not have a free hand to apologise for anything,even if he thought there was something to apologise for...

What we need from the GC side is an admission from the RoC government and the Church that Enosis was a disasterous adventure which has brought the present calamity on all Cypriots...Sitting on the government benches,enjoying the sole power and legitimacy knowing how that legitimacy came about in 1964,and paying lip service to the suffering of the TCs will not get us far...You cannot compare the obligations of the two sides...One side is parading around as the legitimate representative of all Cypriots...The onus is on that side to come up with measures to bring about trust and understanding and respect amongst all Cypriots...After 50 years of living under emergency conditions,depending on the kindness of their big cousins,and trying to survive with their identity as Turkish Cypriots intact,the TCs have very limited power to affect any meaningful change...The ball is squarely in the RoC court now...And it has been there for some time with little willingness shown to play the game fairly...Time for you guys to get a reality check...And accept your responsibility for Cyprob,which is overwhelming...


Kindness of their cousins?
Even if he believed he had something to apologise for?
You're fast becoming a bigger fanatic than some others here!


No,DT...I have become a realist...It is you who has become a GC fanatic,totally ignoring the realities of our situation...Yes,"kindness of their big cousins",because when their partners and compatriots turned on them and threw them out of the house,the TCs survived ,by the skin of their teeth,with help from Turkey...Without that ALL,instead of half,would have had to leave their homeland,just as I had to do...It is time for you to acknowledge this...

And yes,"if they thought they had something to apologise for",because once you started your bloody-minded quest for Enosis with Greece,the die was cast...Time you have accepted and acknowledged this as well...If you and the others keep blaming the biggest victims in this conflict for your own shortcomings then Partition is inevitable,and my belief now is that this is what you and most of your comrades are wishing for...You pretend otherwise because you want to get as much advantage as possible before finally agreeing to it....It took me a while but I worked you out...I will not forgive your double treachery,once back in the 50s,and the present one ...Your Enosis folly has cost me my homeland,and your refusal to accept the responsibility now is costing my community their identity...My anger is growing by the month... :evil:
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Apr 08, 2010 5:44 pm

BirKibrisli wrote:Your Enosis folly has cost me my homeland,and your refusal to accept the responsibility now is costing my community their identity...My anger is growing by the month... :evil:

Bye-bye Ottomans...

Next time STAY PUT in your own country where you belong!

You’d think 440 years of incompatibility would tell the fools something… :roll:
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Postby YFred » Thu Apr 08, 2010 6:07 pm

Get Real! wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:Your Enosis folly has cost me my homeland,and your refusal to accept the responsibility now is costing my community their identity...My anger is growing by the month... :evil:

Bye-bye Ottomans...

Next time STAY PUT in your own country where you belong!

You’d think 440 years of incompatibility would tell the fools something… :roll:

I think you mean Bye Bye Varosha and the rest of the 37.5 %.
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