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[YFred]

TC but I prefer to identify as NC...

What does that make the small number of Turkish-speaking Cypriots who never left Limassol? SCs?

Thats allways a problem to put a letter in front of C. Ok lets imagine that I only used C... better I think

Arif Hasan Tahsin has proposed replacing the terms 'Greek Cypriot' and 'Turkish Cypriot' with 'Greek-speaking Cypriot' and 'Turkish-speaking Cypriot', which makes sense to me.

Theoretically I agree with you. But I would like to ask for fun that, how should we identify my grandfather, who accepts himself as Turkish Cypriot, has a Muslim name but his mother language is Greek and cannot speak in Turkish? :D:D

How about, Greek Speaking Muslim Turkish Cypriot Unable To Speak Turkish. You can include a few others in that category too.

[DT.]

So that makes everthing ok then Kikapu? Making excuses is the gc way out of everything time you people started to address the reality that given the opportunity gcs will always attack tcs purely for being tc.

Of course it does not make it OK, but at the same time, DTA's assertion that it had something to do with "race" is an idiotic one. If it was just because they were a TC, then why are there not hundreds of incidents every day in the south.?? Answer that question before you start your propaganda drivel.

DT was also attacked and got a black eye for it. Maybe his "race" said that he was a TC.!!

How do you know that there are no other attacks in the south? TCs complain about it in the north all the time and some dont even think about returning due to the fear of being attacked.

Didnt hear about DT being attakced thats bad news sorry to hear that hope the TC police did something to find and punish the attackers.

I got attacked on the same day matey. My shiner came from hooligans too and from the swear words coming out of my mouth i know for sure they didn't think i was TC.

BTW did they catch the guys that trashed the ROC plated tc car in the occupied areas?

[BirKibrisli]

i would go just cypriot...why should religion have a play as to what you are called...

I agree.!

If one is proud to be from Cyprus, then one can ONLY be a Cypriot. If the insecure and the unpatriotic Cypriots wants to add a label on themselves, then let them do it unofficially, but their official documents such as passports, MUST read ONLY as Cypriot..............PERIOD.!

The problem is not what we think we are,it is more what others see us as...I was at a social gathering last week. I was talking to some young Australian guys of mainland Greek background...We spoke in English of course but after a while one of them asked me what my origins was. I said Cypriot.He started speaking to me in Greek. I said I didnt speak Greek (not much anyway!) as I was a Turkish Cypriot..."Then you are not a Cypriot," he said, "you are a Turk"...I said,"No I am a Cypriot of Turkish background"...He said,"No you are a Turk..."I didn't see much point in continuing...I walked away but not before making my point,"Thank you",I said, "Your attitude sums up the Cyprus problem perfectly..."

[Kikapu]

i would go just cypriot...why should religion have a play as to what you are called...

I agree.!

If one is proud to be from Cyprus, then one can ONLY be a Cypriot. If the insecure and the unpatriotic Cypriots wants to add a label on themselves, then let them do it unofficially, but their official documents such as passports, MUST read ONLY as Cypriot..............PERIOD.!

The problem is not what we think we are,it is more what others see us as...I was at a social gathering last week. I was talking to some young Australian guys of mainland Greek background...We spoke in English of course but after a while one of them asked me what my origins was. I said Cypriot.He started speaking to me in Greek. I said I didnt speak Greek (not much anyway!) as I was a Turkish Cypriot..."Then you are not a Cypriot," he said, "you are a Turk"...I said,"No I am a Cypriot of Turkish background"...He said,"No you are a Turk..."I didn't see much point in continuing...I walked away but not before making my point,"Thank you",I said, "Your attitude sums up the Cyprus problem perfectly..."

Well, of course you are a Cypriot, Bir. The fact that you were dealing with an idiot, it's another matter. To make matters worse, you were dealing with a mainland Greek background.

He probably call GCs a "Turk" also.!

Unfortunately, since the TCs in the north started calling themselves "Turks of Cyprus", we have given plenty of ammunition to the racists and the bigots to call us "Turks" from here on. This also suits the Fascists on our side also. Some TCs very proudly cover themselves in the flag of Turkey, so slowly but surely the TC identity is being erased by the Fascists on our side as well as from the other side, whether we like it or not.

[BirKibrisli]

i would go just cypriot...why should religion have a play as to what you are called...

I agree.!

If one is proud to be from Cyprus, then one can ONLY be a Cypriot. If the insecure and the unpatriotic Cypriots wants to add a label on themselves, then let them do it unofficially, but their official documents such as passports, MUST read ONLY as Cypriot..............PERIOD.!

The problem is not what we think we are,it is more what others see us as...I was at a social gathering last week. I was talking to some young Australian guys of mainland Greek background...We spoke in English of course but after a while one of them asked me what my origins was. I said Cypriot.He started speaking to me in Greek. I said I didnt speak Greek (not much anyway!) as I was a Turkish Cypriot..."Then you are not a Cypriot," he said, "you are a Turk"...I said,"No I am a Cypriot of Turkish background"...He said,"No you are a Turk..."I didn't see much point in continuing...I walked away but not before making my point,"Thank you",I said, "Your attitude sums up the Cyprus problem perfectly..."

Well, of course you are a Cypriot, Bir. The fact that you were dealing with an idiot, it's another matter. To make matters worse, you were dealing with a mainland Greek background.

He probably call GCs a "Turk" also.!

Unfortunately, since the TCs in the north started calling themselves "Turks of Cyprus", we have given plenty of ammunition to the racists and the bigots to call us "Turks" from here on. This also suits the Fascists on our side also. Some TCs very proudly cover themselves in the flag of Turkey, so slowly but surely the TC identity is being erased by the Fascists on our side as well as from the other side, whether we like it or not.

My retort probably went right over his head...What I meant was,we could never be allowed to be just Cypriots,we had to be either Turks or Greeks...

I am not sure who started using"Turks of Cyprus",Kikapu...It could simply be a mistranslation(or literal translation) of 'Kibris Turku" which has been used ,for as long as I remember,to denote "Turkish Cypriots"...

[Paphitis]

i would go just cypriot...why should religion have a play as to what you are called...

I agree.!

If one is proud to be from Cyprus, then one can ONLY be a Cypriot. If the insecure and the unpatriotic Cypriots wants to add a label on themselves, then let them do it unofficially, but their official documents such as passports, MUST read ONLY as Cypriot..............PERIOD.!

The problem is not what we think we are,it is more what others see us as...I was at a social gathering last week. I was talking to some young Australian guys of mainland Greek background...We spoke in English of course but after a while one of them asked me what my origins was. I said Cypriot.He started speaking to me in Greek. I said I didnt speak Greek (not much anyway!) as I was a Turkish Cypriot..."Then you are not a Cypriot," he said, "you are a Turk"...I said,"No I am a Cypriot of Turkish background"...He said,"No you are a Turk..."I didn't see much point in continuing...I walked away but not before making my point,"Thank you",I said, "Your attitude sums up the Cyprus problem perfectly..."

Well, of course you are a Cypriot, Bir. The fact that you were dealing with an idiot, it's another matter. To make matters worse, you were dealing with a mainland Greek background.

He probably call GCs a "Turk" also.!

Unfortunately, since the TCs in the north started calling themselves "Turks of Cyprus", we have given plenty of ammunition to the racists and the bigots to call us "Turks" from here on. This also suits the Fascists on our side also. Some TCs very proudly cover themselves in the flag of Turkey, so slowly but surely the TC identity is being erased by the Fascists on our side as well as from the other side, whether we like it or not.

this is quite true.

Often, GCs in Australia have even been called Turks.

There is an uneasy relationship between Cypriots and mainland Greeks in Australia. We call them Gypsies, they call us Turks and so on and so on!

Cypriots don't respect mainland Greeks, because they are just weird, whereas Cypriots have a more modern approach and integrate better with Aussies!

[Kikapu]

i would go just cypriot...why should religion have a play as to what you are called...

I agree.!

If one is proud to be from Cyprus, then one can ONLY be a Cypriot. If the insecure and the unpatriotic Cypriots wants to add a label on themselves, then let them do it unofficially, but their official documents such as passports, MUST read ONLY as Cypriot..............PERIOD.!

The problem is not what we think we are,it is more what others see us as...I was at a social gathering last week. I was talking to some young Australian guys of mainland Greek background...We spoke in English of course but after a while one of them asked me what my origins was. I said Cypriot.He started speaking to me in Greek. I said I didnt speak Greek (not much anyway!) as I was a Turkish Cypriot..."Then you are not a Cypriot," he said, "you are a Turk"...I said,"No I am a Cypriot of Turkish background"...He said,"No you are a Turk..."I didn't see much point in continuing...I walked away but not before making my point,"Thank you",I said, "Your attitude sums up the Cyprus problem perfectly..."

Well, of course you are a Cypriot, Bir. The fact that you were dealing with an idiot, it's another matter. To make matters worse, you were dealing with a mainland Greek background.

He probably call GCs a "Turk" also.!

Unfortunately, since the TCs in the north started calling themselves "Turks of Cyprus", we have given plenty of ammunition to the racists and the bigots to call us "Turks" from here on. This also suits the Fascists on our side also. Some TCs very proudly cover themselves in the flag of Turkey, so slowly but surely the TC identity is being erased by the Fascists on our side as well as from the other side, whether we like it or not.

My retort probably went right over his head...What I meant was,we could never be allowed to be just Cypriots,we had to be either Turks or Greeks...

I am not sure who started using"Turks of Cyprus",Kikapu...It could simply be a mistranslation(or literal translation) of 'Kibris Turku" which has been used ,for as long as I remember,to denote "Turkish Cypriots"...

Ever since Eroglu got his present position, Bayrak has been reporting it as "Turks of Cyprus". Even Talat does sometimes. Even Halil was upset in the beggining, but I guess it was going to be his principles or his job. A very tough choice to make indeed.!

As for "Kibris Turku", in direct translation, it does translate as "Cyprus Turks". If it was "Kibrisli Turku", then it's direct translation would be "Cypriot Turks", does it not.??.

[YFred]

i would go just cypriot...why should religion have a play as to what you are called...

I agree.!

If one is proud to be from Cyprus, then one can ONLY be a Cypriot. If the insecure and the unpatriotic Cypriots wants to add a label on themselves, then let them do it unofficially, but their official documents such as passports, MUST read ONLY as Cypriot..............PERIOD.!

The problem is not what we think we are,it is more what others see us as...I was at a social gathering last week. I was talking to some young Australian guys of mainland Greek background...We spoke in English of course but after a while one of them asked me what my origins was. I said Cypriot.He started speaking to me in Greek. I said I didnt speak Greek (not much anyway!) as I was a Turkish Cypriot..."Then you are not a Cypriot," he said, "you are a Turk"...I said,"No I am a Cypriot of Turkish background"...He said,"No you are a Turk..."I didn't see much point in continuing...I walked away but not before making my point,"Thank you",I said, "Your attitude sums up the Cyprus problem perfectly..."

Well, of course you are a Cypriot, Bir. The fact that you were dealing with an idiot, it's another matter. To make matters worse, you were dealing with a mainland Greek background.

He probably call GCs a "Turk" also.!

Unfortunately, since the TCs in the north started calling themselves "Turks of Cyprus", we have given plenty of ammunition to the racists and the bigots to call us "Turks" from here on. This also suits the Fascists on our side also. Some TCs very proudly cover themselves in the flag of Turkey, so slowly but surely the TC identity is being erased by the Fascists on our side as well as from the other side, whether we like it or not.

My retort probably went right over his head...What I meant was,we could never be allowed to be just Cypriots,we had to be either Turks or Greeks...

I am not sure who started using"Turks of Cyprus",Kikapu...It could simply be a mistranslation(or literal translation) of 'Kibris Turku" which has been used ,for as long as I remember,to denote "Turkish Cypriots"...

Ever since Eroglu got his present position, Bayrak has been reporting it as "Turks of Cyprus". Even Talat does sometimes. Even Halil was upset in the beggining, but I guess it was going to be his principles or his job. A very tough choice to make indeed.!

As for "Kibris Turku", in direct translation, it does translate as "Cyprus Turks". If it was "Kibrisli Turku", then it's direct translation would be "Cypriot Turks", does it not.??.

Kickapoo do you realise that when Eroglu won the election, his first action was to remove Talats man from Bayrak and put his own man in to run it. What the hell did you expect the new man to do other than be Erouglu's mouth piece.

[repulsewarrior]

turcophone and grecophone

cheers!

[BirKibrisli]

i would go just cypriot...why should religion have a play as to what you are called...

I agree.!

If one is proud to be from Cyprus, then one can ONLY be a Cypriot. If the insecure and the unpatriotic Cypriots wants to add a label on themselves, then let them do it unofficially, but their official documents such as passports, MUST read ONLY as Cypriot..............PERIOD.!

The problem is not what we think we are,it is more what others see us as...I was at a social gathering last week. I was talking to some young Australian guys of mainland Greek background...We spoke in English of course but after a while one of them asked me what my origins was. I said Cypriot.He started speaking to me in Greek. I said I didnt speak Greek (not much anyway!) as I was a Turkish Cypriot..."Then you are not a Cypriot," he said, "you are a Turk"...I said,"No I am a Cypriot of Turkish background"...He said,"No you are a Turk..."I didn't see much point in continuing...I walked away but not before making my point,"Thank you",I said, "Your attitude sums up the Cyprus problem perfectly..."

Well, of course you are a Cypriot, Bir. The fact that you were dealing with an idiot, it's another matter. To make matters worse, you were dealing with a mainland Greek background.

He probably call GCs a "Turk" also.!

Unfortunately, since the TCs in the north started calling themselves "Turks of Cyprus", we have given plenty of ammunition to the racists and the bigots to call us "Turks" from here on. This also suits the Fascists on our side also. Some TCs very proudly cover themselves in the flag of Turkey, so slowly but surely the TC identity is being erased by the Fascists on our side as well as from the other side, whether we like it or not.

My retort probably went right over his head...What I meant was,we could never be allowed to be just Cypriots,we had to be either Turks or Greeks...

I am not sure who started using"Turks of Cyprus",Kikapu...It could simply be a mistranslation(or literal translation) of 'Kibris Turku" which has been used ,for as long as I remember,to denote "Turkish Cypriots"...

Ever since Eroglu got his present position, Bayrak has been reporting it as "Turks of Cyprus". Even Talat does sometimes. Even Halil was upset in the beggining, but I guess it was going to be his principles or his job. A very tough choice to make indeed.!

As for "Kibris Turku", in direct translation, it does translate as "Cyprus Turks". If it was "Kibrisli Turku", then it's direct translation would be "Cypriot Turks", does it not.??.

Kibrisli Turku is grammatically incorrect...Kibrisli Turk veya Kibrisli Turkler is fine and it literally means "Cypriot Turk or Turks"....
Kibris Turku is correct grammatically and it means literally "Turk of Cyprus"...Kibris Turkleri would be "Turks of Cyprus"...

My point is that both Kibrisli Turk and Kibrisli Turkler have been used for as long as I remember to mean "Turkish Cypriots."..That is the correct translation given its historical usage...But if someone is now trying to make a political point and translating the above as "Turks of Cyprus" or "Cypriot Turks" then you would be right...They are being provocative...
Something not unexpected given the events of our recent past...