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Apoel Fans' attack over Turkish Cypriots (again)

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Postby DTA » Fri Apr 02, 2010 4:35 pm

Malapapa wrote:
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Malapapa wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
DT. wrote:
DTA wrote:How many GC have been attacked in the TRNC since the gates opened... I dont know the answer so this is not a loaded question

does anyone know?


i know of at least one.


I know of another!


I beat myself up - seeing how Cypriot heritage had been neglected in favour of huge mosques and statues of a foreign hero.


Well in that case, I know of another 800,000 who do the same.


Does that answer your question, DTA?


Er........ no :?
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Postby Paphitis » Fri Apr 02, 2010 4:36 pm

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Paphitis wrote:Are you forgetting that Omonoia Fans actually set fire to the Apoel club rooms last year?


Omonia fans have an interesting way of winding up the Apoel hooligans...

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Omonoia has hooligans of its own, and on many occasions they outnumber and are far more provocative than the Apoel hooligans.

But this goes under the radar, perhaps because they are endorsed by the President.

Our thoughts are with the Apoel fan who is in a coma.
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Postby Malapapa » Fri Apr 02, 2010 4:51 pm

DTA wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
DT. wrote:
DTA wrote:How many GC have been attacked in the TRNC since the gates opened... I dont know the answer so this is not a loaded question

does anyone know?


i know of at least one.


I know of another!


I beat myself up - seeing how Cypriot heritage had been neglected in favour of huge mosques and statues of a foreign hero.


Well in that case, I know of another 800,000 who do the same.


Does that answer your question, DTA?


Er........ no :?


Not enough victims for you? :?
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Postby DTA » Fri Apr 02, 2010 4:55 pm

Malapapa wrote:
DTA wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
DT. wrote:
DTA wrote:How many GC have been attacked in the TRNC since the gates opened... I dont know the answer so this is not a loaded question

does anyone know?


i know of at least one.


I know of another!


I beat myself up - seeing how Cypriot heritage had been neglected in favour of huge mosques and statues of a foreign hero.


Well in that case, I know of another 800,000 who do the same.


Does that answer your question, DTA?


Er........ no :?


Not enough victims for you? :?


You avoided the question, and one victim of a racist attack is too much for me.
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Postby halil » Fri Apr 02, 2010 4:56 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Are you forgetting that Omonoia Fans actually set fire to the Apoel club rooms last year?


Omonia fans have an interesting way of winding up the Apoel hooligans...

Image

Image


Omonoia has hooligans of its own, and on many occasions they outnumber and are far more provocative than the Apoel hooligans.

But this goes under the radar, perhaps because they are endorsed by the President.

Our thoughts are with the Apoel fan who is in a coma.


By showing those pictures does not give you any rights to attack the Turkish Cypriots. By showing those pictures does not clear your rascism towards to Turkish Cypriots.... What the hell ''free areas'' police forces doing .... are they incapacitated ?
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Postby Malapapa » Fri Apr 02, 2010 5:25 pm

halil wrote:By showing those pictures does not give you any rights to attack the Turkish Cypriots. By showing those pictures does not clear your rascism towards to Turkish Cypriots....


My racism? I don't even support Apoel. In what way am I, or any other non Turkish Cypriot, responsible for the actions of these football hooligans? It's your accusations and stupidity that offend me, not your race.

halil wrote: What the hell ''free areas'' police forces doing .... are they incapacitated ?


What ideas do you have for cracking down on football hooliganism, halil? A problem the world over.

Collective punishment of all fans? Innocent as well as the few guilty? Should we turf all football fans out of their homes, and refuse to let them return for decades?
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Postby Malapapa » Fri Apr 02, 2010 5:29 pm

DTA wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
DTA wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
DT. wrote:
DTA wrote:How many GC have been attacked in the TRNC since the gates opened... I dont know the answer so this is not a loaded question

does anyone know?


i know of at least one.


I know of another!


I beat myself up - seeing how Cypriot heritage had been neglected in favour of huge mosques and statues of a foreign hero.


Well in that case, I know of another 800,000 who do the same.


Does that answer your question, DTA?


Er........ no :?


Not enough victims for you? :?


You avoided the question,

Not at all. The answer was simply not to your liking.

DTA wrote:and one victim of a racist attack is too much for me.


Yet 35 years on, tens of thousands of victims of a racist attack are prevented from returning to their ancestral homelands.
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Postby halil » Fri Apr 02, 2010 5:59 pm

Malapapa wrote:
halil wrote:By showing those pictures does not give you any rights to attack the Turkish Cypriots. By showing those pictures does not clear your rascism towards to Turkish Cypriots....


My racism? I don't even support Apoel. In what way am I, or any other non Turkish Cypriot, responsible for the actions of these football hooligans? It's your accusations and stupidity that offend me, not your race.

halil wrote: What the hell ''free areas'' police forces doing .... are they incapacitated ?


What ideas do you have for cracking down on football hooliganism, halil? A problem the world over.

Collective punishment of all fans? Innocent as well as the few guilty? Should we turf all football fans out of their homes, and refuse to let them return for decades?


Are u sure that we are expriencies this only at football matches.

have a read below one .... i can find for u hundreds and hundreds that we are witnessing in Cyprus.... All in ''free areas'' many times TC's registered cars are attacked in car parks or front of the markets or while travelling in the roads of the ''free areas'' ! Some thing must be done very urgently in south. sympathy :!: didn't help at all :idea:

Mob attacks Turkish Cypriot cars in Cyprus capital

Police are hunting a mob of hooded youths that went on an unprecedented spree of violence last night, targeting Turkish Cypriots cars in Nicosia.

According to Cyprus state radio, cars with Turkish Cypriot number plates were singled out by the bikers who smashed wind screens and damaged cars at various locations across the city.

The most serious incident occurred on the main Makarios Avenue in Nicosia, when the youth attacked a car owned by a Turkish Cypriot couple who were stopped at a red light.

The couple’s car was severely damaged, with the front, back and side windows being smashed, as they sat in the car. The couple, who were both shaken by the attack, were accompanied to a local police station by witnesses.

Four cars parked at the Mall of Cyprus were also targeted by the same gang.

Cyprus government spokesman blasted the incidents as “mindless nationalistic violence.”

In a written statement, Stefanos Stephanou said, “the government calls on the people to isolate these fanatical and extremist elements.”

The government spokesman also extended the government’s sympathy to the Turkish Cypriot victims of the attacks.
- Copyright © Famagusta Gazette 2009
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Apr 02, 2010 6:13 pm

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Me Ed wrote:I was born and raised in west Hackney near Islington and almost everyone I went to school with is an Arsenal fan.

I now live near Tottenham.

I own a number of Arsenal shirts, but I do not walk around wearing my tops because I know I'll get a lynching, thus is the sickness of hooliganism.

I have every right to wear my Arsenal shirt, but do not do so because I am not stupid, nor do I want to incite trouble.

The TCs had every right to attend the match, but it was not very clever to do so as they were putting themselves at huge risk from hooligans.


I grew up in hackney as well, you can walk around tottenham in arsenal shirts I have seen many do so.

Also the analogy is flawed because the two in question were attacked only because of their race not their support for another team.


I need to disagree with you, DTA, because it was not their so called "race" that gave the TCs away, that said they were a TC, but because of their car licence plate number, so please do not jump on the "race card" bandwagon. I doubt very much one can tell the difference between the TCs and the GCs as a race. The attack on the TC's car and on them indirectly could have been more to do with political motivation than your so called "race". Given the present political situation for the last 40+ years, I'm very surprised it doesn't happen on a much larger scale, thankfully, that these are very far apart incidents, which they all seem to coincide with football hooligans. There is a pattern here that is not too difficult to follow. I'm not condoning what the hooligans did because there can never be one, but hooligans attack anything and everything for any reason. There's always the "wrong place and the wrong time" also plays part here. Shit happens.!



Kikapu, did you miss the article where it pointed out that the trouble makers were pointing at the car and shouting 'Tourkos', 'Tourkos'.
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Postby Kikapu » Fri Apr 02, 2010 6:49 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
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Me Ed wrote:I was born and raised in west Hackney near Islington and almost everyone I went to school with is an Arsenal fan.

I now live near Tottenham.

I own a number of Arsenal shirts, but I do not walk around wearing my tops because I know I'll get a lynching, thus is the sickness of hooliganism.

I have every right to wear my Arsenal shirt, but do not do so because I am not stupid, nor do I want to incite trouble.

The TCs had every right to attend the match, but it was not very clever to do so as they were putting themselves at huge risk from hooligans.


I grew up in hackney as well, you can walk around tottenham in arsenal shirts I have seen many do so.

Also the analogy is flawed because the two in question were attacked only because of their race not their support for another team.


I need to disagree with you, DTA, because it was not their so called "race" that gave the TCs away, that said they were a TC, but because of their car licence plate number, so please do not jump on the "race card" bandwagon. I doubt very much one can tell the difference between the TCs and the GCs as a race. The attack on the TC's car and on them indirectly could have been more to do with political motivation than your so called "race". Given the present political situation for the last 40+ years, I'm very surprised it doesn't happen on a much larger scale, thankfully, that these are very far apart incidents, which they all seem to coincide with football hooligans. There is a pattern here that is not too difficult to follow. I'm not condoning what the hooligans did because there can never be one, but hooligans attack anything and everything for any reason. There's always the "wrong place and the wrong time" also plays part here. Shit happens.!



Kikapu, did you miss the article where it pointed out that the trouble makers were pointing at the car and shouting 'Tourkos', 'Tourkos'.


From what I understood, Deniz, there were a mob of 200, so if some of them took part within that mob and the police was not there to see it, by someone pointing out to the police it was the whole mob of 200 hooligans, how does the police make a case against anyone individual. Even if the victims were to point out to the police of individuals that took part in attacking the car, it will be their word against the word of the individual in the mob. Just by shouting "Tourkos, Tourkos" by some from the Hooligans is not against the law, is it.? I don't know the answer, I'm just asking.!
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