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[BirKibrisli]

Interesting about the schools. Considering there are 'English' schools in Cyprus where the Greek Language is not a compulsory subject (though English is) and I haven't heard any GCs objecting to that. It surprised me when I first moved here. I know teenagers who have attended them for 10 yrs and can speak hardly a word of Greek.

There's a fundamental flaw in your argument, amusing as it is.

RoC citizens choose to go English school and the analogy would be Germans going to Turkish schools.

We all know that these Turkish schools will be for ethnic Turks, thus propogating the islamist model of separation and intollerance.

Are you for real??? There are English schools,German schools,French schools,Armenian,and soon a Greek School I believe,in Turkey...Why can't we have a Turkish school in Germany where 3 million Turks live???Is this your idea of democracy and human rights,you know, the kind you preach for Cyprus???

Who said that school would only be for German children of Turkish background? It would be for anybody who wants to go there...Overwhelming majority would of course be of Turkish background,but not because of restrictions,but because most German parents would share your blind prejudices against such a school...

[Oracle]

Erdogan is demanding for State Funded Turkish schools in Germany. We all know there are English schools in Cyprus and Greek schools in Britain etc. But all these are privately funded schools.

So, again the Turks are making demands above the acceptable so that they can complain about being hard-done by or discriminated against. Pretty soon they'll withdraw into enclaves and demand a separate state in Germany because of "discrimination".

[Oracle]

How many times do I have to tell you? Erdogan and his goverment do not want to join the EU.

What apologist rubbish. He's an Expansionist Turk therefore he wants everything. He wants Cyprus, he wants the EU on his terms and he wants the Islamic alliances!

There are no signs of moderation in this demanding fanatic!

[YFred]

Interesting about the schools. Considering there are 'English' schools in Cyprus where the Greek Language is not a compulsory subject (though English is) and I haven't heard any GCs objecting to that. It surprised me when I first moved here. I know teenagers who have attended them for 10 yrs and can speak hardly a word of Greek.

There's a fundamental flaw in your argument, amusing as it is.

RoC citizens choose to go English school and the analogy would be Germans going to Turkish schools.

We all know that these Turkish schools will be for ethnic Turks, thus propogating the islamist model of separation and intollerance.

Are you for real??? There are English schools,German schools,French schools,Armenian,and soon a Greek School I believe,in Turkey...Why can't we have a Turkish school in Germany where 3 million Turks live???Is this your idea of democracy and human rights,you know, the kind you preach for Cyprus???

Who said that school would only be for German children of Turkish background? It would be for anybody who wants to go there...Overwhelming majority would of course be of Turkish background,but not because of restrictions,but because most German parents would share your blind prejudices against such a school...

Bir, I have nothing against Turkish being taught in any country as a second language but the primary language should be the oficial language of the country. For the sake of the children otherwise they will be disadvantaged when it comes to entering University and the job market.

[Kikapu]

Interesting about the schools. Considering there are 'English' schools in Cyprus where the Greek Language is not a compulsory subject (though English is) and I haven't heard any GCs objecting to that. It surprised me when I first moved here. I know teenagers who have attended them for 10 yrs and can speak hardly a word of Greek.

There's a fundamental flaw in your argument, amusing as it is.

RoC citizens choose to go English school and the analogy would be Germans going to Turkish schools.

We all know that these Turkish schools will be for ethnic Turks, thus propogating the islamist model of separation and intollerance.

Are you for real??? There are English schools,German schools,French schools,Armenian,and soon a Greek School I believe,in Turkey...Why can't we have a Turkish school in Germany where 3 million Turks live???Is this your idea of democracy and human rights,you know, the kind you preach for Cyprus???

Who said that school would only be for German children of Turkish background? It would be for anybody who wants to go there...Overwhelming majority would of course be of Turkish background,but not because of restrictions,but because most German parents would share your blind prejudices against such a school...

Bir, I have nothing against Turkish being taught in any country as a second language but the primary language should be the oficial language of the country. For the sake of the children otherwise they will be disadvantaged when it comes to entering University and the job market.

This bad idea is/was tried out in California where Mexican Spanish speaking Americans and illegals were tought in their own language at the tax payers expense, and in the end, the Mexican kids spoke very bad English, because they were tought in Spanish and they learned more about Mexico than they did about America. As a result, they lacked a good education for them to compete with other Americans. I agree with YFred on this one, that, primary education has to be the one provided in the country one lives in. This is not to say that there can't be private language schools that teaches anything under the sun, but the cost has to come from the parents and not from the tax payers. If Erdogan wants German-Turkish kids to be tought in Turkish, then Turkey should pay for their private tution in Germany or he should pay for them to be brought to Turkey for them to be tought there.!

[YFred]

Interesting about the schools. Considering there are 'English' schools in Cyprus where the Greek Language is not a compulsory subject (though English is) and I haven't heard any GCs objecting to that. It surprised me when I first moved here. I know teenagers who have attended them for 10 yrs and can speak hardly a word of Greek.

There's a fundamental flaw in your argument, amusing as it is.

RoC citizens choose to go English school and the analogy would be Germans going to Turkish schools.

We all know that these Turkish schools will be for ethnic Turks, thus propogating the islamist model of separation and intollerance.

Are you for real??? There are English schools,German schools,French schools,Armenian,and soon a Greek School I believe,in Turkey...Why can't we have a Turkish school in Germany where 3 million Turks live???Is this your idea of democracy and human rights,you know, the kind you preach for Cyprus???

Who said that school would only be for German children of Turkish background? It would be for anybody who wants to go there...Overwhelming majority would of course be of Turkish background,but not because of restrictions,but because most German parents would share your blind prejudices against such a school...

Bir, I have nothing against Turkish being taught in any country as a second language but the primary language should be the oficial language of the country. For the sake of the children otherwise they will be disadvantaged when it comes to entering University and the job market.

This bad idea is/was tried out in California where Mexican Spanish speaking Americans and illegals were tought in their own language at the tax payers expense, and in the end, the Mexican kids spoke very bad English, because they were tought in Spanish and they learned more about Mexico than they did about America. As a result, they lacked a good education for them to compete with other Americans. I agree with YFred on this one, that, primary education has to be the one provided in the country one lives in. This is not to say that there can't be private language schools that teaches anything under the sun, but the cost has to come from the parents and not from the tax payers. If Erdogan wants German-Turkish kids to be tought in Turkish, then Turkey should pay for their private tution in Germany or he should pay for them to be brought to Turkey for them to be tought there.!

Mexican could have been the second language and it would have worked fine and would have been provided by the taxpayer. Win win for both.

[DT.]

Interesting about the schools. Considering there are 'English' schools in Cyprus where the Greek Language is not a compulsory subject (though English is) and I haven't heard any GCs objecting to that. It surprised me when I first moved here. I know teenagers who have attended them for 10 yrs and can speak hardly a word of Greek.

There's a fundamental flaw in your argument, amusing as it is.

RoC citizens choose to go English school and the analogy would be Germans going to Turkish schools.

We all know that these Turkish schools will be for ethnic Turks, thus propogating the islamist model of separation and intollerance.

Are you for real??? There are English schools,German schools,French schools,Armenian,and soon a Greek School I believe,in Turkey...Why can't we have a Turkish school in Germany where 3 million Turks live???Is this your idea of democracy and human rights,you know, the kind you preach for Cyprus???

Who said that school would only be for German children of Turkish background? It would be for anybody who wants to go there...Overwhelming majority would of course be of Turkish background,but not because of restrictions,but because most German parents would share your blind prejudices against such a school...

Bir, I have nothing against Turkish being taught in any country as a second language but the primary language should be the oficial language of the country. For the sake of the children otherwise they will be disadvantaged when it comes to entering University and the job market.

This bad idea is/was tried out in California where Mexican Spanish speaking Americans and illegals were tought in their own language at the tax payers expense, and in the end, the Mexican kids spoke very bad English, because they were tought in Spanish and they learned more about Mexico than they did about America. As a result, they lacked a good education for them to compete with other Americans. I agree with YFred on this one, that, primary education has to be the one provided in the country one lives in. This is not to say that there can't be private language schools that teaches anything under the sun, but the cost has to come from the parents and not from the tax payers. If Erdogan wants German-Turkish kids to be tought in Turkish, then Turkey should pay for their private tution in Germany or he should pay for them to be brought to Turkey for them to be tought there.!

Mexican could have been the second language and it would have worked fine and would have been provided by the taxpayer. Win win for both.

No such language as Mexican you imbecile. They speak Spanish in Mexico

[Kikapu]

Interesting about the schools. Considering there are 'English' schools in Cyprus where the Greek Language is not a compulsory subject (though English is) and I haven't heard any GCs objecting to that. It surprised me when I first moved here. I know teenagers who have attended them for 10 yrs and can speak hardly a word of Greek.

There's a fundamental flaw in your argument, amusing as it is.

RoC citizens choose to go English school and the analogy would be Germans going to Turkish schools.

We all know that these Turkish schools will be for ethnic Turks, thus propogating the islamist model of separation and intollerance.

Are you for real??? There are English schools,German schools,French schools,Armenian,and soon a Greek School I believe,in Turkey...Why can't we have a Turkish school in Germany where 3 million Turks live???Is this your idea of democracy and human rights,you know, the kind you preach for Cyprus???

Who said that school would only be for German children of Turkish background? It would be for anybody who wants to go there...Overwhelming majority would of course be of Turkish background,but not because of restrictions,but because most German parents would share your blind prejudices against such a school...

Bir, I have nothing against Turkish being taught in any country as a second language but the primary language should be the oficial language of the country. For the sake of the children otherwise they will be disadvantaged when it comes to entering University and the job market.

This bad idea is/was tried out in California where Mexican Spanish speaking Americans and illegals were tought in their own language at the tax payers expense, and in the end, the Mexican kids spoke very bad English, because they were tought in Spanish and they learned more about Mexico than they did about America. As a result, they lacked a good education for them to compete with other Americans. I agree with YFred on this one, that, primary education has to be the one provided in the country one lives in. This is not to say that there can't be private language schools that teaches anything under the sun, but the cost has to come from the parents and not from the tax payers. If Erdogan wants German-Turkish kids to be tought in Turkish, then Turkey should pay for their private tution in Germany or he should pay for them to be brought to Turkey for them to be tought there.!

Mexican could have been the second language and it would have worked fine and would have been provided by the taxpayer. Win win for both.

Well, there is no such thing as a "Mexican Language", but I get your drift.!

Lower half of California not only have mostly Spanish names for places, but Spanish is also widely spoken, mostly by the immigrants from Mexico, Central america and South America. Spanish is an unofficial second language, particularly in the Southwestern states.!

[YFred]

Interesting about the schools. Considering there are 'English' schools in Cyprus where the Greek Language is not a compulsory subject (though English is) and I haven't heard any GCs objecting to that. It surprised me when I first moved here. I know teenagers who have attended them for 10 yrs and can speak hardly a word of Greek.

There's a fundamental flaw in your argument, amusing as it is.

RoC citizens choose to go English school and the analogy would be Germans going to Turkish schools.

We all know that these Turkish schools will be for ethnic Turks, thus propogating the islamist model of separation and intollerance.

Are you for real??? There are English schools,German schools,French schools,Armenian,and soon a Greek School I believe,in Turkey...Why can't we have a Turkish school in Germany where 3 million Turks live???Is this your idea of democracy and human rights,you know, the kind you preach for Cyprus???

Who said that school would only be for German children of Turkish background? It would be for anybody who wants to go there...Overwhelming majority would of course be of Turkish background,but not because of restrictions,but because most German parents would share your blind prejudices against such a school...

Bir, I have nothing against Turkish being taught in any country as a second language but the primary language should be the oficial language of the country. For the sake of the children otherwise they will be disadvantaged when it comes to entering University and the job market.

This bad idea is/was tried out in California where Mexican Spanish speaking Americans and illegals were tought in their own language at the tax payers expense, and in the end, the Mexican kids spoke very bad English, because they were tought in Spanish and they learned more about Mexico than they did about America. As a result, they lacked a good education for them to compete with other Americans. I agree with YFred on this one, that, primary education has to be the one provided in the country one lives in. This is not to say that there can't be private language schools that teaches anything under the sun, but the cost has to come from the parents and not from the tax payers. If Erdogan wants German-Turkish kids to be tought in Turkish, then Turkey should pay for their private tution in Germany or he should pay for them to be brought to Turkey for them to be tought there.!

Mexican could have been the second language and it would have worked fine and would have been provided by the taxpayer. Win win for both.

Well, there is no such thing as a "Mexican Language", but I get your drift.!

Lower half of California not only have mostly Spanish names for places, but Spanish is also widely spoken, mostly by the immigrants from Mexico, Central america and South America. Spanish is an unofficial second language, particularly in the Southwestern states.!

In California, is Spanish not taught as a second language? If it is not, it should be.

[BirKibrisli]

Interesting about the schools. Considering there are 'English' schools in Cyprus where the Greek Language is not a compulsory subject (though English is) and I haven't heard any GCs objecting to that. It surprised me when I first moved here. I know teenagers who have attended them for 10 yrs and can speak hardly a word of Greek.

There's a fundamental flaw in your argument, amusing as it is.

RoC citizens choose to go English school and the analogy would be Germans going to Turkish schools.

We all know that these Turkish schools will be for ethnic Turks, thus propogating the islamist model of separation and intollerance.

Are you for real??? There are English schools,German schools,French schools,Armenian,and soon a Greek School I believe,in Turkey...Why can't we have a Turkish school in Germany where 3 million Turks live???Is this your idea of democracy and human rights,you know, the kind you preach for Cyprus???

Who said that school would only be for German children of Turkish background? It would be for anybody who wants to go there...Overwhelming majority would of course be of Turkish background,but not because of restrictions,but because most German parents would share your blind prejudices against such a school...

Bir, I have nothing against Turkish being taught in any country as a second language but the primary language should be the oficial language of the country. For the sake of the children otherwise they will be disadvantaged when it comes to entering University and the job market.

This bad idea is/was tried out in California where Mexican Spanish speaking Americans and illegals were tought in their own language at the tax payers expense, and in the end, the Mexican kids spoke very bad English, because they were tought in Spanish and they learned more about Mexico than they did about America. As a result, they lacked a good education for them to compete with other Americans. I agree with YFred on this one, that, primary education has to be the one provided in the country one lives in. This is not to say that there can't be private language schools that teaches anything under the sun, but the cost has to come from the parents and not from the tax payers. If Erdogan wants German-Turkish kids to be tought in Turkish, then Turkey should pay for their private tution in Germany or he should pay for them to be brought to Turkey for them to be tought there.!

I see both your points Kikapu and YFred...But teaching in the host country's primary language is also not a guarantee that children who come from another background and whose mother tongue is something else will NOT be disadvantaged...In fact I see this often in Australia...If there is no special or remedial English classes these kids fall behind the others,often get put in "slow" classes and end up with all sorts of psychological and academic problems...Given the fact that often their parents cannot speak English well they lack home support as well...So they either leave school prematurely or the parents have to pay a lot of money for private coaching...There is a lot of merit in educating them in their mother tongue,making sure that they also learn the host language well...AFter all these people pay their taxes as well,but their children do not get the same benefits from the education system because of the language disadvantage...