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[Tim Drayton]

If Eroglu wins it will be because the AKP want him to win,YFred...No one will convince me that Erdogan cannot get Talat elected if he wants to...I don't think this has anything to do with the EU...More to do with the current struggle with the Military elite,I believe...We dont know all the facts in this matter,so we will have to wait and see...

As one of the columnists in Afrika said a few weeks ago, if Ankara really did not want Eroglu to become president, they would just have to approach him and say, "Mr Dervish, you are doing such a good job as prime-minister and we need you to continue in that capacity, so please withdraw your candidacy."

[B25]

If Eroglu wins it will be because the AKP want him to win,YFred...No one will convince me that Erdogan cannot get Talat elected if he wants to...I don't think this has anything to do with the EU...More to do with the current struggle with the Military elite,I believe...We dont know all the facts in this matter,so we will have to wait and see...

As one of the columnists in Afrika said a few weeks ago, if Ankara really did not want Eroglu to become president, they would just have to approach him and say, "Mr Dervish, you are doing such a good job as prime-minister and we need you to continue in that capacity, so please withdraw your candidacy."

Tim I beg to differ. It would have been some mysterious accident or a bullet in the head knowing Turkey.

That would ensure Ali toilet would win.

[YFred]

If Eroglu wins it will be because the AKP want him to win,YFred...No one will convince me that Erdogan cannot get Talat elected if he wants to...I don't think this has anything to do with the EU...More to do with the current struggle with the Military elite,I believe...We dont know all the facts in this matter,so we will have to wait and see...

As one of the columnists in Afrika said a few weeks ago, if Ankara really did not want Eroglu to become president, they would just have to approach him and say, "Mr Dervish, you are doing such a good job as prime-minister and we need you to continue in that capacity, so please withdraw your candidacy."

Tim I am surprised at you. You know very well the way Turkey operates and the power struggle between the opposing interests in Turkey.
After this, AKP will have to fight for their existence if Eroglu wins. It also depends on what our eu friends decide of course.

[BirKibrisli]

If Eroglu wins it will be because the AKP want him to win,YFred...No one will convince me that Erdogan cannot get Talat elected if he wants to...I don't think this has anything to do with the EU...More to do with the current struggle with the Military elite,I believe...We dont know all the facts in this matter,so we will have to wait and see...

As one of the columnists in Afrika said a few weeks ago, if Ankara really did not want Eroglu to become president, they would just have to approach him and say, "Mr Dervish, you are doing such a good job as prime-minister and we need you to continue in that capacity, so please withdraw your candidacy."

The AKP government does not want a solution in Cyprus,as they do not really want to join the EU,AND they want a carrot to dangle in front of the military,IMHO...

[Tim Drayton]

If Eroglu wins it will be because the AKP want him to win,YFred...No one will convince me that Erdogan cannot get Talat elected if he wants to...I don't think this has anything to do with the EU...More to do with the current struggle with the Military elite,I believe...We dont know all the facts in this matter,so we will have to wait and see...

As one of the columnists in Afrika said a few weeks ago, if Ankara really did not want Eroglu to become president, they would just have to approach him and say, "Mr Dervish, you are doing such a good job as prime-minister and we need you to continue in that capacity, so please withdraw your candidacy."

Tim I am surprised at you. You know very well the way Turkey operates and the power struggle between the opposing interests in Turkey.
After this, AKP will have to fight for their existence if Eroglu wins. It also depends on what our eu friends decide of course.

But the point the columnist was making (I think it was Şener Levent) was that if Ankara really wanted to directly influence the outcome, there exist very simple means for it to do this. In other words, he is challenging this thesis.

[Tim Drayton]

If Eroglu wins it will be because the AKP want him to win,YFred...No one will convince me that Erdogan cannot get Talat elected if he wants to...I don't think this has anything to do with the EU...More to do with the current struggle with the Military elite,I believe...We dont know all the facts in this matter,so we will have to wait and see...

As one of the columnists in Afrika said a few weeks ago, if Ankara really did not want Eroglu to become president, they would just have to approach him and say, "Mr Dervish, you are doing such a good job as prime-minister and we need you to continue in that capacity, so please withdraw your candidacy."

The AKP government does not want a solution in Cyprus,as they do not really want to join the EU,AND they want a carrot to dangle in front of the military,IMHO...

You may well be right. I think the paradox of an Islamist government in Turkey enthusiastically pursuing (or appearing to pursue) EU accession defies any simple explanation, but I, too, have my doubts as to their sincerity.

[B25]

If Eroglu wins it will be because the AKP want him to win,YFred...No one will convince me that Erdogan cannot get Talat elected if he wants to...I don't think this has anything to do with the EU...More to do with the current struggle with the Military elite,I believe...We dont know all the facts in this matter,so we will have to wait and see...

As one of the columnists in Afrika said a few weeks ago, if Ankara really did not want Eroglu to become president, they would just have to approach him and say, "Mr Dervish, you are doing such a good job as prime-minister and we need you to continue in that capacity, so please withdraw your candidacy."

Tim I am surprised at you. You know very well the way Turkey operates and the power struggle between the opposing interests in Turkey.
After this, AKP will have to fight for their existence if Eroglu wins. It also depends on what our eu friends decide of course.

But the point the columnist was making (I think it was Şener Levent) was that if Ankara really wanted to directly influence the outcome, there exist very simple means for it to do this. In other words, he is challenging this thesis.

Yes, quite, they could give the settlers a TV as well as a washing machine, that should do it.

[BirKibrisli]

If Eroglu wins it will be because the AKP want him to win,YFred...No one will convince me that Erdogan cannot get Talat elected if he wants to...I don't think this has anything to do with the EU...More to do with the current struggle with the Military elite,I believe...We dont know all the facts in this matter,so we will have to wait and see...

As one of the columnists in Afrika said a few weeks ago, if Ankara really did not want Eroglu to become president, they would just have to approach him and say, "Mr Dervish, you are doing such a good job as prime-minister and we need you to continue in that capacity, so please withdraw your candidacy."

Tim I am surprised at you. You know very well the way Turkey operates and the power struggle between the opposing interests in Turkey.
After this, AKP will have to fight for their existence if Eroglu wins. It also depends on what our eu friends decide of course.

But the point the columnist was making (I think it was Şener Levent) was that if Ankara really wanted to directly influence the outcome, there exist very simple means for it to do this. In other words, he is challenging this thesis.

It is unthinkable that Turkey would allow her fate in EU to be decided by 160,000 voters in the trnc...Erdogan and co are upto their old camouflage tricks...They seem to be supporting Talat,but they have already made sure Eroglu would be elected in the first round...The candidacy of Ertugruloglu was part of making sure Eroglu would win,although it looks as if it is designed to split Eroglu's vote...Turkey knows well that Ertugruloglu's candidacy have already galvanised support for Eroglu not only amongst the UBP voters but also amongst the DP voters...Machiavelli would've been very proud of Erdogan's handling of the whole issue...

[boomerang]

If Eroglu wins it will be because the AKP want him to win,YFred...No one will convince me that Erdogan cannot get Talat elected if he wants to...I don't think this has anything to do with the EU...More to do with the current struggle with the Military elite,I believe...We dont know all the facts in this matter,so we will have to wait and see...

As one of the columnists in Afrika said a few weeks ago, if Ankara really did not want Eroglu to become president, they would just have to approach him and say, "Mr Dervish, you are doing such a good job as prime-minister and we need you to continue in that capacity, so please withdraw your candidacy."

Tim I am surprised at you. You know very well the way Turkey operates and the power struggle between the opposing interests in Turkey.
After this, AKP will have to fight for their existence if Eroglu wins. It also depends on what our eu friends decide of course.

But the point the columnist was making (I think it was Şener Levent) was that if Ankara really wanted to directly influence the outcome, there exist very simple means for it to do this. In other words, he is challenging this thesis.

It is unthinkable that Turkey would allow her fate in EU to be decided by 160,000 voters in the trnc...Erdogan and co are upto their old camouflage tricks...They seem to be supporting Talat,but they have already made sure Eroglu would be elected in the first round...The candidacy of Ertugruloglu was part of making sure Eroglu would win,although it looks as if it is designed to split Eroglu's vote...Turkey knows well that Ertugruloglu's candidacy have already galvanised support for Eroglu not only amongst the UBP voters but also amongst the DP voters...Machiavelli would've been very proud of Erdogan's handling of the whole issue...

and you reckon turkey will one day get of cyprus...

[YFred]

If Eroglu wins it will be because the AKP want him to win,YFred...No one will convince me that Erdogan cannot get Talat elected if he wants to...I don't think this has anything to do with the EU...More to do with the current struggle with the Military elite,I believe...We dont know all the facts in this matter,so we will have to wait and see...

As one of the columnists in Afrika said a few weeks ago, if Ankara really did not want Eroglu to become president, they would just have to approach him and say, "Mr Dervish, you are doing such a good job as prime-minister and we need you to continue in that capacity, so please withdraw your candidacy."

Tim I am surprised at you. You know very well the way Turkey operates and the power struggle between the opposing interests in Turkey.
After this, AKP will have to fight for their existence if Eroglu wins. It also depends on what our eu friends decide of course.

But the point the columnist was making (I think it was Şener Levent) was that if Ankara really wanted to directly influence the outcome, there exist very simple means for it to do this. In other words, he is challenging this thesis.

It is unthinkable that Turkey would allow her fate in EU to be decided by 160,000 voters in the trnc...Erdogan and co are upto their old camouflage tricks...They seem to be supporting Talat,but they have already made sure Eroglu would be elected in the first round...The candidacy of Ertugruloglu was part of making sure Eroglu would win,although it looks as if it is designed to split Eroglu's vote...Turkey knows well that Ertugruloglu's candidacy have already galvanised support for Eroglu not only amongst the UBP voters but also amongst the DP voters...Machiavelli would've been very proud of Erdogan's handling of the whole issue...

But Bir, that makes my friend Kicks bay's thinking on the election slightly way off target.
I still maintain that Ergenekon are not yet defeated and AKP may look as though they are the hunters but may turn out to be hunted instead. It's a funny old world.
The real question is who is in control of Turkey?
AKP or Ergenekon.