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Postby YFred » Wed Apr 14, 2010 1:20 pm

halil wrote:Eroglu, in an interview with a Greek Cypriot newspaper, cautioned against making assumptions about what he would do.

"How do Greek Cypriots know even before I enter the presidential office and sit at the negotiating table what will happen.

"Maybe I can conclude an agreement better than Talat could," Eroglu was quoted as telling Phileleftheros daily on Sunday.

"For us, bi-zonal bi-communal federation means the existence of two separate sovereign peoples in separate areas," Eroglu said.

Eroglu implied that if he were elected he would want to revisit everything negotiated.

"Since nothing has been agreed we should review all six chapters which have been discussed until now,"

:!: :!: :!: :?: :?: :?: :idea: :idea: :idea:

I get the feeling he is no too happy about giving up the Veto.
I have seen somewhere that Talat is a few percent infront of Eroglu, is there any truth in that Halil?
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Postby DTA » Wed Apr 14, 2010 1:28 pm

YFred wrote:
halil wrote:Eroglu, in an interview with a Greek Cypriot newspaper, cautioned against making assumptions about what he would do.

"How do Greek Cypriots know even before I enter the presidential office and sit at the negotiating table what will happen.

"Maybe I can conclude an agreement better than Talat could," Eroglu was quoted as telling Phileleftheros daily on Sunday.

"For us, bi-zonal bi-communal federation means the existence of two separate sovereign peoples in separate areas," Eroglu said.

Eroglu implied that if he were elected he would want to revisit everything negotiated.

"Since nothing has been agreed we should review all six chapters which have been discussed until now,"

:!: :!: :!: :?: :?: :?: :idea: :idea: :idea:

I get the feeling he is no too happy about giving up the Veto.
I have seen somewhere that Talat is a few percent infront of Eroglu, is there any truth in that Halil?


Did Talat give up the veto then? um come to think of it what do you mean by veto? intervention?
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Postby YFred » Wed Apr 14, 2010 1:32 pm

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halil wrote:Eroglu, in an interview with a Greek Cypriot newspaper, cautioned against making assumptions about what he would do.

"How do Greek Cypriots know even before I enter the presidential office and sit at the negotiating table what will happen.

"Maybe I can conclude an agreement better than Talat could," Eroglu was quoted as telling Phileleftheros daily on Sunday.

"For us, bi-zonal bi-communal federation means the existence of two separate sovereign peoples in separate areas," Eroglu said.

Eroglu implied that if he were elected he would want to revisit everything negotiated.

"Since nothing has been agreed we should review all six chapters which have been discussed until now,"

:!: :!: :!: :?: :?: :?: :idea: :idea: :idea:

I get the feeling he is no too happy about giving up the Veto.
I have seen somewhere that Talat is a few percent infront of Eroglu, is there any truth in that Halil?


Did Talat give up the veto then? um come to think of it what do you mean by veto? intervention?

In the 1960 constitution the TC V President had the veto, to block the vote in parliment. It has been exchanged for rotating presidency, which was Muhtar X's idea.
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Postby DTA » Wed Apr 14, 2010 1:37 pm

YFred wrote:
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halil wrote:Eroglu, in an interview with a Greek Cypriot newspaper, cautioned against making assumptions about what he would do.

"How do Greek Cypriots know even before I enter the presidential office and sit at the negotiating table what will happen.

"Maybe I can conclude an agreement better than Talat could," Eroglu was quoted as telling Phileleftheros daily on Sunday.

"For us, bi-zonal bi-communal federation means the existence of two separate sovereign peoples in separate areas," Eroglu said.

Eroglu implied that if he were elected he would want to revisit everything negotiated.

"Since nothing has been agreed we should review all six chapters which have been discussed until now,"

:!: :!: :!: :?: :?: :?: :idea: :idea: :idea:

I get the feeling he is no too happy about giving up the Veto.
I have seen somewhere that Talat is a few percent infront of Eroglu, is there any truth in that Halil?


Did Talat give up the veto then? um come to think of it what do you mean by veto? intervention?

In the 1960 constitution the TC V President had the veto, to block the vote in parliment. It has been exchanged for rotating presidency, which was Muhtar X's idea.


Oh ok I knew that I was just being slow. rotating presidency seems like a an ok compromise, what do you think?
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Postby halil » Wed Apr 14, 2010 1:41 pm

YFred wrote:
halil wrote:Eroglu, in an interview with a Greek Cypriot newspaper, cautioned against making assumptions about what he would do.

"How do Greek Cypriots know even before I enter the presidential office and sit at the negotiating table what will happen.

"Maybe I can conclude an agreement better than Talat could," Eroglu was quoted as telling Phileleftheros daily on Sunday.

"For us, bi-zonal bi-communal federation means the existence of two separate sovereign peoples in separate areas," Eroglu said.

Eroglu implied that if he were elected he would want to revisit everything negotiated.

"Since nothing has been agreed we should review all six chapters which have been discussed until now,"

:!: :!: :!: :?: :?: :?: :idea: :idea: :idea:

I get the feeling he is no too happy about giving up the Veto.
I have seen somewhere that Talat is a few percent infront of Eroglu, is there any truth in that Halil?


nothing is clear yet. only it has been said with few points Eroğlu is leading.

it was more than 10 % before. If it is true we can have second round.
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Postby YFred » Wed Apr 14, 2010 1:43 pm

DTA wrote:
YFred wrote:
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halil wrote:Eroglu, in an interview with a Greek Cypriot newspaper, cautioned against making assumptions about what he would do.

"How do Greek Cypriots know even before I enter the presidential office and sit at the negotiating table what will happen.

"Maybe I can conclude an agreement better than Talat could," Eroglu was quoted as telling Phileleftheros daily on Sunday.

"For us, bi-zonal bi-communal federation means the existence of two separate sovereign peoples in separate areas," Eroglu said.

Eroglu implied that if he were elected he would want to revisit everything negotiated.

"Since nothing has been agreed we should review all six chapters which have been discussed until now,"

:!: :!: :!: :?: :?: :?: :idea: :idea: :idea:

I get the feeling he is no too happy about giving up the Veto.
I have seen somewhere that Talat is a few percent infront of Eroglu, is there any truth in that Halil?


Did Talat give up the veto then? um come to think of it what do you mean by veto? intervention?

In the 1960 constitution the TC V President had the veto, to block the vote in parliment. It has been exchanged for rotating presidency, which was Muhtar X's idea.


Oh ok I knew that I was just being slow. rotating presidency seems like a an ok compromise, what do you think?

It's a better way of running things. The Veto was too negative and easily used and abused. You'll find the patriots and one so called "TC" is not too happy about it cause they feel too much power is given to the TCs. They totally miss the eu concept of equality where 90 million German president serves the same time as 1 Million Cypriot president. But the GCs have not really joined EU in mind yet only in body and only so that they can use it to attack Turkey.
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Postby BirKibrisli » Wed Apr 14, 2010 3:43 pm

YFred wrote:
DTA wrote:
YFred wrote:
DTA wrote:
YFred wrote:
halil wrote:Eroglu, in an interview with a Greek Cypriot newspaper, cautioned against making assumptions about what he would do.

"How do Greek Cypriots know even before I enter the presidential office and sit at the negotiating table what will happen.

"Maybe I can conclude an agreement better than Talat could," Eroglu was quoted as telling Phileleftheros daily on Sunday.

"For us, bi-zonal bi-communal federation means the existence of two separate sovereign peoples in separate areas," Eroglu said.

Eroglu implied that if he were elected he would want to revisit everything negotiated.

"Since nothing has been agreed we should review all six chapters which have been discussed until now,"

:!: :!: :!: :?: :?: :?: :idea: :idea: :idea:

I get the feeling he is no too happy about giving up the Veto.
I have seen somewhere that Talat is a few percent infront of Eroglu, is there any truth in that Halil?


Did Talat give up the veto then? um come to think of it what do you mean by veto? intervention?

In the 1960 constitution the TC V President had the veto, to block the vote in parliment. It has been exchanged for rotating presidency, which was Muhtar X's idea.


Oh ok I knew that I was just being slow. rotating presidency seems like a an ok compromise, what do you think?

It's a better way of running things. The Veto was too negative and easily used and abused. You'll find the patriots and one so called "TC" is not too happy about it cause they feel too much power is given to the TCs. They totally miss the eu concept of equality where 90 million German president serves the same time as 1 Million Cypriot president. But the GCs have not really joined EU in mind yet only in body and only so that they can use it to attack Turkey.


Eroglu Presidency will be a disaster for Cyprus...Years of negotiations down the drain...And you can bet anything he will insist on the veto as well...Oh well...The fanatical GCs want Eroglu and they might just get him... :arrow:
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Postby YFred » Wed Apr 14, 2010 3:57 pm

BirKibrisli wrote:
YFred wrote:
DTA wrote:
YFred wrote:
DTA wrote:
YFred wrote:
halil wrote:Eroglu, in an interview with a Greek Cypriot newspaper, cautioned against making assumptions about what he would do.

"How do Greek Cypriots know even before I enter the presidential office and sit at the negotiating table what will happen.

"Maybe I can conclude an agreement better than Talat could," Eroglu was quoted as telling Phileleftheros daily on Sunday.

"For us, bi-zonal bi-communal federation means the existence of two separate sovereign peoples in separate areas," Eroglu said.

Eroglu implied that if he were elected he would want to revisit everything negotiated.

"Since nothing has been agreed we should review all six chapters which have been discussed until now,"

:!: :!: :!: :?: :?: :?: :idea: :idea: :idea:

I get the feeling he is no too happy about giving up the Veto.
I have seen somewhere that Talat is a few percent infront of Eroglu, is there any truth in that Halil?


Did Talat give up the veto then? um come to think of it what do you mean by veto? intervention?

In the 1960 constitution the TC V President had the veto, to block the vote in parliment. It has been exchanged for rotating presidency, which was Muhtar X's idea.


Oh ok I knew that I was just being slow. rotating presidency seems like a an ok compromise, what do you think?

It's a better way of running things. The Veto was too negative and easily used and abused. You'll find the patriots and one so called "TC" is not too happy about it cause they feel too much power is given to the TCs. They totally miss the eu concept of equality where 90 million German president serves the same time as 1 Million Cypriot president. But the GCs have not really joined EU in mind yet only in body and only so that they can use it to attack Turkey.


Eroglu Presidency will be a disaster for Cyprus...Years of negotiations down the drain...And you can bet anything he will insist on the veto as well...Oh well...The fanatical GCs want Eroglu and they might just get him... :arrow:

I do think that it also depends on the EU and Erdogan. If they continue to play silly buggers with Turkey's application, AKP will be swept away and so will cyprus talks.
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Postby BirKibrisli » Wed Apr 14, 2010 4:32 pm

YFred wrote:
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YFred wrote:
DTA wrote:
YFred wrote:
DTA wrote:
YFred wrote:
halil wrote:Eroglu, in an interview with a Greek Cypriot newspaper, cautioned against making assumptions about what he would do.

"How do Greek Cypriots know even before I enter the presidential office and sit at the negotiating table what will happen.

"Maybe I can conclude an agreement better than Talat could," Eroglu was quoted as telling Phileleftheros daily on Sunday.

"For us, bi-zonal bi-communal federation means the existence of two separate sovereign peoples in separate areas," Eroglu said.

Eroglu implied that if he were elected he would want to revisit everything negotiated.

"Since nothing has been agreed we should review all six chapters which have been discussed until now,"

:!: :!: :!: :?: :?: :?: :idea: :idea: :idea:

I get the feeling he is no too happy about giving up the Veto.
I have seen somewhere that Talat is a few percent infront of Eroglu, is there any truth in that Halil?


Did Talat give up the veto then? um come to think of it what do you mean by veto? intervention?

In the 1960 constitution the TC V President had the veto, to block the vote in parliment. It has been exchanged for rotating presidency, which was Muhtar X's idea.


Oh ok I knew that I was just being slow. rotating presidency seems like a an ok compromise, what do you think?

It's a better way of running things. The Veto was too negative and easily used and abused. You'll find the patriots and one so called "TC" is not too happy about it cause they feel too much power is given to the TCs. They totally miss the eu concept of equality where 90 million German president serves the same time as 1 Million Cypriot president. But the GCs have not really joined EU in mind yet only in body and only so that they can use it to attack Turkey.


Eroglu Presidency will be a disaster for Cyprus...Years of negotiations down the drain...And you can bet anything he will insist on the veto as well...Oh well...The fanatical GCs want Eroglu and they might just get him... :arrow:

I do think that it also depends on the EU and Erdogan. If they continue to play silly buggers with Turkey's application, AKP will be swept away and so will cyprus talks.


If Eroglu wins it will be because the AKP want him to win,YFred...No one will convince me that Erdogan cannot get Talat elected if he wants to...I don't think this has anything to do with the EU...More to do with the current struggle with the Military elite,I believe...We dont know all the facts in this matter,so we will have to wait and see...
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Postby YFred » Wed Apr 14, 2010 4:39 pm

BirKibrisli wrote:
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YFred wrote:
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YFred wrote:
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halil wrote:Eroglu, in an interview with a Greek Cypriot newspaper, cautioned against making assumptions about what he would do.

"How do Greek Cypriots know even before I enter the presidential office and sit at the negotiating table what will happen.

"Maybe I can conclude an agreement better than Talat could," Eroglu was quoted as telling Phileleftheros daily on Sunday.

"For us, bi-zonal bi-communal federation means the existence of two separate sovereign peoples in separate areas," Eroglu said.

Eroglu implied that if he were elected he would want to revisit everything negotiated.

"Since nothing has been agreed we should review all six chapters which have been discussed until now,"

:!: :!: :!: :?: :?: :?: :idea: :idea: :idea:

I get the feeling he is no too happy about giving up the Veto.
I have seen somewhere that Talat is a few percent infront of Eroglu, is there any truth in that Halil?


Did Talat give up the veto then? um come to think of it what do you mean by veto? intervention?

In the 1960 constitution the TC V President had the veto, to block the vote in parliment. It has been exchanged for rotating presidency, which was Muhtar X's idea.


Oh ok I knew that I was just being slow. rotating presidency seems like a an ok compromise, what do you think?

It's a better way of running things. The Veto was too negative and easily used and abused. You'll find the patriots and one so called "TC" is not too happy about it cause they feel too much power is given to the TCs. They totally miss the eu concept of equality where 90 million German president serves the same time as 1 Million Cypriot president. But the GCs have not really joined EU in mind yet only in body and only so that they can use it to attack Turkey.


Eroglu Presidency will be a disaster for Cyprus...Years of negotiations down the drain...And you can bet anything he will insist on the veto as well...Oh well...The fanatical GCs want Eroglu and they might just get him... :arrow:

I do think that it also depends on the EU and Erdogan. If they continue to play silly buggers with Turkey's application, AKP will be swept away and so will cyprus talks.


If Eroglu wins it will be because the AKP want him to win,YFred...No one will convince me that Erdogan cannot get Talat elected if he wants to...I don't think this has anything to do with the EU...More to do with the current struggle with the Military elite,I believe...We dont know all the facts in this matter,so we will have to wait and see...

That is not very clear. Edogan would love it if Talat won, but the military are rooting for Eroglu. Talat said that the other day.
The power strugle in Turkey has not concluded yet. The Military already had one go at getting rid of Erdogan, they may yet succeed.
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