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The EU should cease all grants to the occupied north ...

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Postby Oracle » Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:57 pm

CopperLine wrote:Responding to the title of this thread rather than the usual bigoted ignorance of the oaf who started this thread, the EU monies are allocated for the development of the Turkish Cypriot community in the north (not the TRNC government) precisely because Turkish Cypriots are Cypriots and therefore, in principle, citizens of the EU. This money - a small fraction of that flowing to the Greek Cypriot community and state - is assigned whilst the acquis communitaire is suspended in the north. Millions of people across EU Europe do not begrudge such a tiny amount of monies going to TCs, they're legitimate recipients.


The "oaf" has already stated (and in full agreement with your presently stated position) that the awards were NOT made to any "trnc" entity. So, we agree! Yes, they are made for the benefit of the "TCs" who the RoC seems obliged to cater for, in terms of well-being and welfare. But, the problem is that these funds are working against the indigenous majority who where forcefully expelled from the north. Which is precisely why these awards should cease! Why should any tiny group of people, mostly living illegally off the spoils of others, benefit at the expense of the (wholly innocent) majority?
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Postby CopperLine » Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:12 pm

Oracle wrote:
CopperLine wrote:Responding to the title of this thread rather than the usual bigoted ignorance of the oaf who started this thread, the EU monies are allocated for the development of the Turkish Cypriot community in the north (not the TRNC government) precisely because Turkish Cypriots are Cypriots and therefore, in principle, citizens of the EU. This money - a small fraction of that flowing to the Greek Cypriot community and state - is assigned whilst the acquis communitaire is suspended in the north. Millions of people across EU Europe do not begrudge such a tiny amount of monies going to TCs, they're legitimate recipients.


The "oaf" has already stated (and in full agreement with your presently stated position) that the awards were NOT made to any "trnc" entity. So, we agree! Yes, they are made for the benefit of the "TCs" who the RoC seems obliged to cater for, in terms of well-being and welfare. But, the problem is that these funds are working against the indigenous majority who where forcefully expelled from the north. Which is precisely why these awards should cease! Why should any tiny group of people, mostly living illegally off the spoils of others, benefit at the expense of the (wholly innocent) majority?


No Oracle. The RoCis not "cater[ing] for ... the well-being and welfare" of TCs, it is the EU which is doing so (precisely because the RoC won't do so). EU monies are not "awards". The size of the TC community, tiny or not, does not alter their status as EU citizens and the right to receive support from the EU (a consideration which is at the heart of the TC criticism of the RoC, namely the rights of TCs within the RoC were steadily eroded). The TCs who benefit from EU funds are not doing so at the expense of anyone and certainly not your so-called 'innocent'. They are benefiting from EU funding which is raised and contributed to by all EU citizens and activities.
So, typically, all of the information in your last post was plain wrong.
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Postby Oracle » Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:25 pm

CopperLine wrote:No Oracle. The RoCis not "cater[ing] for ... the well-being and welfare" of TCs, it is the EU which is doing so (precisely because the RoC won't do so)..


Oh, you bite the hand that feeds you! :roll:

Why would thousands of TCs cross over to the free area to seek work, free hospital treatments and social welfare from the RoC if they were receiving this by staying put?
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Postby Gasman » Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:35 pm

I think Oracle purposely 'misunderstands' a lot of things!

Wasn't most of the funding earmarked by the EU for TRNC to improve infrastructure and bring it up to EU standards?

And haven't the RoC complained and tried to block it at every turn?

I do find it a bit confusing that some GCs complain if land and property in the North is left to rot, complain if it is used to earn a living or lived in, complain if it is improved or built on.

That they complain if the TRNC is letting the N. go to rack and ruin and complain even more if they do anything at all with it. Obviously whatever happens they won't be happy. They will only be happy if it is returned to the rightful owners in exactly the same condition it was in almost 40 yrs ago (an impossibility I'd have thought).
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Postby Oracle » Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:39 pm

Gasman wrote:Wasn't most of the funding earmarked by the EU for TRNC to improve infrastructure and bring it up to EU standards?
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Instead, we now see that they are careless with the heritage of this land! Misuse of the awards!

Exactly why the EU should stop hazarding donating any more funds!

The Turks are a greedy bunch of neanderthal scumbags.
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Postby Gasman » Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:45 pm

I also understood that they were being rewarded for voting YES to the Annan Plan?

O's recent comments do not warrant a response.
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Postby Oracle » Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:56 pm

Gasman wrote:I also understood that they were being rewarded for voting YES to the Annan Plan?


By whom?

Are you suggesting that bribery is legitimate?
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Postby YFred » Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:58 pm

Oracle wrote:
Gasman wrote:I also understood that they were being rewarded for voting YES to the Annan Plan?


By whom?

Are you suggesting that bribery is legitimate?

Have you just realised how the eu works?
My word, you is one asleep babe.
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Postby Gasman » Fri Mar 26, 2010 12:21 am

Have you just realised how the eu works?
My word, you is one asleep babe.


Oracle thinks the EU means that all Cypriots are now 'Modern Europeans'. That Cyprus is now 'in Europe' and that (apart from the handouts) the EU will send in a big army to chase Turkey out of Cyprus for her.

Dunno about 'asleep', DELUDED is more apt.
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Postby YFred » Fri Mar 26, 2010 12:47 am

Gasman wrote:
Have you just realised how the eu works?
My word, you is one asleep babe.


Oracle thinks the EU means that all Cypriots are now 'Modern Europeans'. That Cyprus is now 'in Europe' and that (apart from the handouts) the EU will send in a big army to chase Turkey out of Cyprus for her.

Dunno about 'asleep', DELUDED is more apt.

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