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[B25]

Personally I dont give a damn what the EU gives the money for. But the desecrating of religious monuments, turning them into businesses that they were not intended for will remain a dark stain on the northern administrations and to RoT facer. They should be ashamed of themselves. These places of worship should revert back to being churches or at the least a museum of christian iconic art. And IMMEDIATELY.

Thank you sir.

[Oracle]

Me ed said:

Madam Oracle,

The EU should present the TCs a choice...

The progresive south or the backward north.

At the en of the day, its their choice.

Oracle replied:

Master Me Ed

I do not understand your need for making options available to illegal occupants of a country, other than that which facilitates their departure.

Me ed specifically mentioned TCs - does O consider TCs to be illegal occupants?

Are there TCs illegally occupying the illegally ethnically cleansed north?

Good question!

What do you think?

[YFred]

Plundering of religious monuments in Cyprus

24.MAR.10
The Museum of Kykkos Monastery has presented new evidence of destruction, desecration and plundering of religious monuments in the Turkish occupied areas of Cyprus.

Dr. Charalambos Hodjakoglou, head of the Museum`s programme to record evidence concerning churches and other religious monuments in the Turkish occupied areas, referred to specific incidents of desecration, as well as the violation of the freedom of religion by the Turkish occupation regime.

He noted that the Roman Catholic gothic church of Saint Francis has been turned into a pub and pizza parlour, and that the church of the Johannine knights has been transformed into a night club.

Furthermore, the church of Panayia Trapeza in the village of Acheritou has been desecrated, with illegal excavations of probable medieval tombs. In the case of Saint Efimianos in the village of Lysi, plunderers partially demolished a wall and excavated the floor, having earlier removed the church`s murals. Hodjakoglou also referred to a ``dramatic case, in which we also bear responsibility,`` namely the church of Panayia of Trachonas in the Turkish occupied part of Nicosia, which has been turned into a dance school. He pointed out that recently road works began in the area, very close to the church, causing the building to become unstable. A breast wall had to be built to prevent the church from collapsing.

Hodjakoglou noted that the road works were carried out with EU funding and explained that any such works had to be submitted to the Republic of Cyprus for approval. ``Today, the whole surrounding area has become a roundabout, the whole area around the church is being used as a road, and all this has been done with funds from the EU, of which we are a member state, and we have not objected,`` he added. Replying to questions, Hodjakoglou said that ``if objections had been raised, the money would not have been given,`` and also pointed out that the Ministry of Foreign Affairs had shown a great interest in the matter, since it had been informed about the case.

Furthermore, a number of graves in the Kyrenia cemetery had been dug up and the area is now being used by the Anglican Church, which in the government-controlled areas enjoys full freedom and provisions by the Orthodox Church of Cyprus and the Republic of Cyprus.


http://www.famagusta-gazette.

You've had your eye on the 259 million ever since it was anounced. Just get lost. You are not getting your thieving hands on any of it.

[Gasman]

I asked O:

Me ed specifically mentioned TCs - does O consider TCs to be illegal occupants?

O (in her usual word twisting misquoting fashion) responded with:

Are there TCs illegally occupying the illegally ethnically cleansed north?

Good question!

What do you think?

I didn't ask IF THERE WERE ANY TCs ILLEGALLY OCCUPYING THE NORTH.

I asked if YOU consider TCs to be 'illegal occupants' in view of what you had said.

Of course I don't consider any Turkish Cypriots to be anything other than CYPRIOTS.

You don't even consider yourself to be a Cypriot, going by most of your postings.

[vaughanwilliams]

Me ed said:

Madam Oracle,

The EU should present the TCs a choice...

The progresive south or the backward north.

At the en of the day, its their choice.

Oracle replied:

Master Me Ed

I do not understand your need for making options available to illegal occupants of a country, other than that which facilitates their departure.

Me ed specifically mentioned TCs - does O consider TCs to be illegal occupants?

Are there TCs illegally occupying the illegally ethnically cleansed north?

Good question!

What do you think?

Is there such a thing as "legally ethnically cleansed", then?

[YFred]

Me ed said:

Madam Oracle,

The EU should present the TCs a choice...

The progresive south or the backward north.

At the en of the day, its their choice.

Oracle replied:

Master Me Ed

I do not understand your need for making options available to illegal occupants of a country, other than that which facilitates their departure.

Me ed specifically mentioned TCs - does O consider TCs to be illegal occupants?

Are there TCs illegally occupying the illegally ethnically cleansed north?

Good question!

What do you think?

Is there such a thing as "legally ethnically cleansed", then?

Of course there is. Makarios did it from 1963 to 1974.

[Oracle]

Me ed said:

Madam Oracle,

The EU should present the TCs a choice...

The progresive south or the backward north.

At the en of the day, its their choice.

Oracle replied:

Master Me Ed

I do not understand your need for making options available to illegal occupants of a country, other than that which facilitates their departure.

Me ed specifically mentioned TCs - does O consider TCs to be illegal occupants?

Are there TCs illegally occupying the illegally ethnically cleansed north?

Good question!

What do you think?

Is there such a thing as "legally ethnically cleansed", then?

It will be the one when the Turkish settlers are deported back to where they (illegally) came from, courtesy of the EU/UN.

[Epiktitos]

Is there such a thing as "legally ethnically cleansed", then?

Yes there is, the 1923 treaty of Lausanne contained provisions for the ethnic cleansing of Greeks and Turks from Turkey and Greece respectively, mutually agreed by both Greece and Turkey.

Ironic that you would disingenuously ask such a question when you are both ignorant of the answer and the beneficiary of illegal ethnic cleansing.

[vaughanwilliams]

Is there such a thing as "legally ethnically cleansed", then?

Yes there is, the 1923 treaty of Lausanne contained provisions for the ethnic cleansing of Greeks and Turks from Turkey and Greece respectively, mutually agreed by both Greece and Turkey.

Ironic that you would disingenuously ask such a question when you are both ignorant of the answer and the beneficiary of illegal ethnic cleansing.

Yes, it is ironic, isn't it?

[CopperLine]

Responding to the title of this thread rather than the usual bigoted ignorance of the oaf who started this thread, the EU monies are allocated for the development of the Turkish Cypriot community in the north (not the TRNC government) precisely because Turkish Cypriots are Cypriots and therefore, in principle, citizens of the EU. This money - a small fraction of that flowing to the Greek Cypriot community and state - is assigned whilst the acquis communitaire is suspended in the north. Millions of people across EU Europe do not begrudge such a tiny amount of monies going to TCs, they're legitimate recipients.