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Postby alexISS » Wed Mar 24, 2010 11:37 am

Happy March 25th to GetReal and Paphitis!
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Postby DT. » Wed Mar 24, 2010 11:51 am

I feel that I need to thank GR, Malapapa, Oracle and even the Aphrodist Paphitits ( :lol: ) for producing one of the most entertaining threads I've ever had the pleasure to read on this forum.

The whole Cypriot from Cyprus saga will go down in history alongside Abbot and Costello's "Who's on first" :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Postby BOF » Wed Mar 24, 2010 12:03 pm

any mention of the hitites? it was their island once...

Can you Advise someone whose island has been invaded many times when this island now called cyprus was invaded and became part of the ancient greek empire please.

Cyprus has always been invaded, never the invader. to think that people and races didnt intermingle just as they do now, in those days of myth, legend and less socialised strata doesnt support a one race superiority/ logevity theory in my opinion, and DNA from Cypriots suggests the same.
You may well be a Cypriot from Cyprus - but you may well NOT be of Greek origin.
Of course DNA can be used to convict people but some suggest it doesnt count when referring to racial origins :wink:
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Postby Kikapu » Wed Mar 24, 2010 12:08 pm

DT. wrote:I feel that I need to thank GR, Malapapa, Oracle and even the Aphrodist Paphitits ( :lol: ) for producing one of the most entertaining threads I've ever had the pleasure to read on this forum.

The whole Cypriot from Cyprus saga will go down in history alongside Abbot and Costello's "Who's on first" :lol: :lol: :lol:



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Postby Malapapa » Wed Mar 24, 2010 12:21 pm

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Postby Malapapa » Wed Mar 24, 2010 12:25 pm

Oracle wrote:@ Malapappa

Just to reiterate some points over which you remained ignorant. Now confirmed and double-checked ... :D

There was no word in Ancient Greek for "Cypriot" ... zero. Not used!

These were the descriptors used:

Κύπριος ...... of Cyprus
Κύπρονδε ........ to Cyprus
Κύπρος ........ Cyprus
Κυπρόθεν ........ from Cyprus
Κυπρογενής ..... the Cyprusborn



So your Levite was born of Cyprus and was not termed "Cypriot".


Κύπριος means of Cyprus only in so far as English means of England, Greek means of Greece, or Athenian means of Athens. (This stuff about the dative case frankly shows a complete ignorance of Greek, ancient or otherwise: τῷ γένει (by birth) may be in the dative case, but Κύπριος is clearly nominative.)

The correct translation of Κύπριος (leaving aside the characteristically loose translation of the King James Bible) is Cypriot. (Other possibilities are Cyprian or Cypriote, but only if you prefer a more archaic style.) And Κύπριος τῷ γένει means Cypriot by birth, although born in Cyprus might be a reasonable paraphrasing in the same way as one might interchangeably say born in Greece or Greek born.

In the context of the Roman Empire of the early Christian period, nationality and ethnicity were not meaningful concepts (arguably they’re not today either). The fact that one spoke Latin or Koine (the lingua francas in the Western and Eastern Mediterranean respectively) didn’t make one Roman or Greek, any more than using English today necessarily makes one English.

People from Cyprus were Cypriots, according to the Bible. And no doubt they spoke a form of Koine, even if they were early Christians tracing their ancestry to the Tribe of Levi. Their descendants today are also Cypriots, though some seem to have transmogrified into prefix-obsessed ‘Greek’ Cypriots after reading too much mythology instead of concentrating on the scriptures.
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Postby Paphitis » Wed Mar 24, 2010 12:34 pm

alexISS wrote:Happy March 25th to GetReal and Paphitis!


Erm...ANZAC Day is on April 25th. You got your months mixed up! :D
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Postby observer » Wed Mar 24, 2010 12:47 pm

I think that he means Greek Independence Day - or for some reason I can only guess at, Elton John's birthday :lol:
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Postby alexISS » Wed Mar 24, 2010 12:48 pm

Paphitis wrote:
alexISS wrote:Happy March 25th to GetReal and Paphitis!


Erm...ANZAC Day is on April 25th. You got your months mixed up! :D


http://www.cyprusinfo.gr/kyprosplirofor ... index.html
Δημόσιες Αργίες στην Κύπρο

1η Ιανουαρίου - Πρωτοχρονιά

6η Ιανουαρίου - Γιορτή των Θεοφανίων

25η Μαρτίου - Ελληνική Εθνική Γιορτή

1η Απριλίου - Εθνική Επέτειος

1η Μαϊου - Εργατική Πρωτομαγιά

15η Αυγούστου - Κοίμησης της Θεοτόκου

1η Οκτωβρίου - Ημέρα της Ανεξαρτησίας της Κύπρου

28η Οκτωβρίου - Ελληνική Εθνική Επέτειος

24η Δεκεμβρίου - Παραμονή Χριστουγέννων*

25η Δεκεμβρίου - Χριστούγεννα

26η Δεκεμβρίου - Δεύτερη μέρα των Χριστουγέννων

Καθαρή Δευτέρα (50 μέρες πριν από το Ορθόδοξο Πάσχα)

Μεγάλη Παρασκευή

Δευτέρα του Πάσχα

Πεντηκοστή - Κατακλυσμός


No April 25th in that list, sorry.
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Postby alexISS » Wed Mar 24, 2010 12:52 pm

observer wrote:I think that he means Greek Independence Day - or for some reason I can only guess at, Elton John's birthday :lol:


I can only guess why you've memorized Elton John's birthday :lol:
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