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Postby Paphitis » Tue Mar 30, 2010 1:42 pm

Oracle wrote:
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Oracle wrote:If you look deeply, you will see how it is the GO church which continued the teachings of the ancient Greek philosophers and how it has sought to preserve the direct lines from these ideas. Paganism was being redefined by many Hellenistic philosophers hundreds of years before "Jesus". Socrates was accused of atheism (as well as corrupting the youth).


Ancient Greeks were famous for their liberalism, democracy and free thought, until the GO Church came along and destroyed everything!!


That's because you don't know enough about either to possibly judge accordingly. It is your own limitations which you exhibit when making such statements! Could the GO church have produced such a democracy-seeking intellectual and heroic figure as Makarios if it suffered from the constraints you suggest? No! The failures are with you and not the GO Church!


I hate to say this, but I firmly believe that it was figures such as Makarios and Grivas, that have contributed to the destruction of Cyprus, no matter how heroic you we may think they are. You see, Makarios was never an adequate politician in my view, and there were many blunders made. The signing of the undemocratic Zurich Agreement is a good example.

Sorry, but your post is very flawed.

Perhaps it is your political naivety or bias which forces you to make stupid posts like this, but then you have the audacity to talk about 'limitations' elsewhere. You need to study Cypriot history from a non emotional plane to figure things out.
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Postby Oracle » Tue Mar 30, 2010 9:47 pm

Paphitis ... get real!

What a megalomaniac you have become. Suddenly you know better than Makarios!

For Gawd's sake! :roll:
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Postby Paphitis » Wed Mar 31, 2010 4:37 am

Oracle wrote:Paphitis ... get real!

What a megalomaniac you have become. Suddenly you know better than Makarios!

For Gawd's sake! :roll:


History is the best judge of all, but the sad thing is, our generations are now suffering because of the inadequacies in the past. Perhaps Cypriots felt that through Makarios, we will have the assistance of "God's hand", but now we need divine intervention to end the division. Another example of the GO Church's negative influence which has ultimately contributed to what we have today.

We behaved like a superpower. We had wild delusions of grandeur and believed we could play the USA and USSR against each other.

Take off the rose tinted glasses and do some reading. :roll:

Get Very Real! Indeed.....
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Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Mar 31, 2010 4:50 am

Paphitis,
checkit out: "they"
tried to murder him many
times, he sat first to the
right of the Queen, hero
to men like Castro, a preist.

Statesmen: measure accordingly
the time and the place, he chose
Cyprus first, even as a Greek, then

this with his contemporaire were they
molding; it came to that, Cold War
poor Junta starved of the Glory
whorly played a wider field, they
betrayed the trust pledged, not just
to their People,
it was a crime against Humanity

those who suffered most were Turkish Cypriots like
brethren Greek Cypriots, torn apart and now
occupied because we are "Greek" and/or "Turkish"

...don't blame that on Makarios.

and if you are are willing, change, think big
i am just as willing to revise history so that
even Denktash is a hero
he opened the gates closed so long, didn't he?
deep inside inescapably Cypriots first.
p.s. the population of Cyprus is twelve million

...30...

one man one vote, three seperate slates, an
Upper House equally divided, and won
by Majority, the choice:
one Turkish Cypriot, one Greek Cypriot,
by Party, our President their leader
and a third Representative in a Lower House for
sober second thinking, members of the Government
Committees, but Independant
they vote through their Speaker by Consensus

blah blah blah you know my schpeele...

National Assemblies too? enclaves what?

please read my manifesto.
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Postby Paphitis » Wed Mar 31, 2010 2:25 pm

RW,

I do not blame Makarios for everything but merely stated that he had made some enormous blunders which ultimately contributed to the chain reaction which caused the Cyprus Problem and the division we have today. A politician or a Statesman he was not. Statesmen, would not have signed the Zurich Agreement.

Respect from Castro is nothing to be proud of in my view. It further goes to show how we played a very dangerous game with both the USA and USSR during the Cold War, and like a child playing with a box of matches, we got our fingers burnt.

He was sincere with his loyalty to Cyprus and all Cypriots. This I don't dispute. And I don't blame him for everything!
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Postby Acikgoz » Wed Mar 31, 2010 4:10 pm

We do still have the 13 points, the Akritas plan, the isolation, the priviledge towards GC businesses over TC etc. they too were under his watch. The heavy handedness he dealt is in concurrent with his leadership.
The TCs that knew him praised his ability to put them at ease with his manner and outwardly polite nature but they also talked of how his loyalties favouring GCs was blatant and he wasn't trusted as a leader for all. I never met him but these were what I have been told.
A true leader of all Cypriots would have dealt with the thorny issues not by excluding people but by finding ways to include them. That takes foresight, inclusion and a true love of all people - it is a very difficult challenge but if he was truly great then that is where his focus would have been and his energies would have born sweet fruit.
He was a man for Greek Cypriots first and foremost, he had their best interests at heart. He was not a man for all Cypriots.
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Postby DT. » Wed Mar 31, 2010 4:40 pm

Acikgoz wrote:We do still have the 13 points, the Akritas plan, the isolation, the priviledge towards GC businesses over TC etc. they too were under his watch. The heavy handedness he dealt is in concurrent with his leadership.
The TCs that knew him praised his ability to put them at ease with his manner and outwardly polite nature but they also talked of how his loyalties favouring GCs was blatant and he wasn't trusted as a leader for all. I never met him but these were what I have been told.
A true leader of all Cypriots would have dealt with the thorny issues not by excluding people but by finding ways to include them. That takes foresight, inclusion and a true love of all people - it is a very difficult challenge but if he was truly great then that is where his focus would have been and his energies would have born sweet fruit.
He was a man for Greek Cypriots first and foremost, he had their best interests at heart. He was not a man for all Cypriots.


Unlike Kutchuk who was the entire islands Vice President and not just the tc's. :roll:
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Postby Acikgoz » Wed Mar 31, 2010 10:40 pm

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Postby repulsewarrior » Thu Apr 01, 2010 4:57 am

in the village on the wall even in '74, hung a picture of Kutchuk, Makarios, the Queen (at a Commonwealth function) and a map of Cyprus. What was the real symbol of our freedom was the cistern where we got our water with the cypriot dove and the date on it of when it was built.

...does anyone know if the Apostle Paul planted trees in Cyprus?
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Re: Bible Search for Greeks on or anywhere near Cyprus!

Postby Vuryek » Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:03 pm

Get Real! wrote:Bible Search for Greeks on or anywhere near Cyprus!

NB:
Old Testament: 1400-400 BCE
New Testament: Around 50-300 AD


Search: “Greeks in Cyprus”
Result: No Results Found!
http://www.christnotes.org/bible.php?q= ... us&ver=kjv

Search: “Greeks of Cyprus”
Result: No Results Found!
http://www.christnotes.org/bible.php?q= ... us&ver=kjv

Search: “Greeks from Cyprus”
Result: No Results Found!
http://www.christnotes.org/bible.php?q= ... us&ver=kjv

Search: “Cyprus Greeks”
Result: No Results Found!
http://www.christnotes.org/bible.php?q= ... ks&ver=kjv

Search: “Greek Cyprus”
Result: No Results Found!
http://www.christnotes.org/bible.php?q= ... us&ver=kjv

Search: “Greek Cypriot”
Result: No Results Found!
http://www.christnotes.org/bible.php?q= ... ot&ver=kjv

Search: “Cyprus”
Result: 8 Results
http://www.christnotes.org/bible.php?q=Cyprus&ver=kjv


In fact, there’s not a single mention of ANY Greek person on Cyprus! :lol:

This “Greek Cypriot” label rubbish has to be dropped altogether!

Henceforth use “Cypriot” or “Christian Cypriot”.


Regards, GR.


Thank you God! :)



I believe it will be better to seach as Orthodox rather than Greek. Additionally I do not recommend bible as a reference for any kind of information.

Try Excerpta Cypria.... it contains perfect answers...
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