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[Malapapa]

ΠΡΑΞΕΙΣ 4:36 Greek NT: Tischendorf 8th Ed. with Diacritics
Ἰωσὴφ δὲ ὁ ἐπικληθεὶς Βαρναβᾶς ἀπὸ τῶν ἀποστόλων, ὅ ἐστιν μεθερμηνευόμενον υἱὸς παρακλήσεως, Λευείτης, Κύπριος τῷ γένει

Thanks Oracle. But a translation, literal or otherwise, isn't necessary as Cypriots know what Κύπριος means.

[Get Real!]

The Americans, Australians and Canadians are the most internationalist of them all...

Is that the act of forcefully initiating “cooperation” with other countries via invasions/occupations?

[Paphitis]

The Americans, Australians and Canadians are the most internationalist of them all...

Is that the act of forcefully initiating “cooperation” with other countries via invasions/occupations?

That's called spreading Western ideals (Hellenism) to the rest of the world. We picked up the baton from Ancient Greeks who spread Western ideals to Cyprus. Someone has to take over!

[Oracle]

ΠΡΑΞΕΙΣ 4:36 Greek NT: Tischendorf 8th Ed. with Diacritics
Ἰωσὴφ δὲ ὁ ἐπικληθεὶς Βαρναβᾶς ἀπὸ τῶν ἀποστόλων, ὅ ἐστιν μεθερμηνευόμενον υἱὸς παρακλήσεως, Λευείτης, Κύπριος τῷ γένει

Thanks Oracle. But a translation, literal or otherwise, isn't necessary as Cypriots know what Κύπριος means.

Today, perhaps (although, even that is doubtful), but GR! had a Biblical premise and in that context, I reiterate, there was no word for "Cypriot" and since you yourself provided a Classical Greek quote, you have to translate it correctly, not by your whim!

[Malapapa]

ΠΡΑΞΕΙΣ 4:36 Greek NT: Tischendorf 8th Ed. with Diacritics
Ἰωσὴφ δὲ ὁ ἐπικληθεὶς Βαρναβᾶς ἀπὸ τῶν ἀποστόλων, ὅ ἐστιν μεθερμηνευόμενον υἱὸς παρακλήσεως, Λευείτης, Κύπριος τῷ γένει

Thanks Oracle. But a translation, literal or otherwise, isn't necessary as Cypriots know what Κύπριος means.

Today, perhaps (although, even that is doubtful),

It's not doubtful to Cypriots who are 100% clear about their identity. Perhaps it is doubtful to half Cypriots.

but GR! had a Biblical premise and in that context, I reiterate, there was no word for "Cypriot"

So in which Anno Domini, exactly, did 'Κύπριος' start meaning 'Cypriot'?

[Malapapa]

And just to put this finally to bed....

http://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons ... prios.html

New Testament Greek Lexicon

Original Word
Κύπριος

Transliterated Word
Kuprios

Phonetic Spelling
koo'-pree-os

Definition
1. a Cyprian or Cypriote, i.e. a native of Cyprus

[bill cobbett]

Erm .... before we call it a day on this ......

Aristotle refers to the Cypriots some 300 years earlier in the Poetics.

An English translation .....

[1457b] [1] . . . Every noun is either "ordinary"1 or "rare" or "metaphorical" or "ornamental" or "invented" or "lengthened" or "curtailed" or "altered." An "ordinary" word is one used by everybody, a "rare" word one used by some; so that a word may obviously be both "ordinary" and "rare," but not in relation to the same people. σίγυνον,2 for instance, is to the Cypriots an "ordinary" word but to us a "rare" one.

Wonder who the "us" referred to are?

An ref to the original gr may be of interest.

[Paphitis]

Is this putting the cat among the pigeon:

.... In the dispersion that followed Stephen's death, some Disciples from Cyprus and Cyrene, obscure men, inaugurated the real mission of the Christian Church by preaching to the Gentiles. They met with great success among the Greeks at Antioch in Syria, reports of which coming to the ears of the Apostles, Barnabas was sent thither by them to investigate the work of his countrymen. He saw in the conversions effected the fruit of God's grace and, though a Jew, heartily welcomed these first Gentile converts. ...

That's correct, Deniz. His countrymen (the "men of Cyprus") indeed were Greeks!

... Just what I've been saying to Mal and GR! all along.

Idiot!

Agoraki mou, we know that you are torn between your old love of Greece, from your idyllic days on Santoniri, and your new blossoming love for Turkey; we understand that resolving conflicts of the heart are not easy. Hush now.

I am here to make a confession!

I’ve fallen head over heels for an illegal settler Turk originally from Ankara, and since that fateful day I now realize that…

Greece SUCKS!

Long live Turkey!

Could someone please point to where I can buy a Fez?

http://cyprus-now.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=148

On a lighter note, will you be inviting any forumers to the wedding? I know where you can get a great deal on koufeta in bulk!

Are you delusional?

Did you right that yourself? How creative.

I wish you and your Turkish boyfriend a long life and all the happiness in the world!

[Paphitis]

The notion of race/ethnicity is very much outdated.

Really? Says who?

Most people, including Cypriots and Greeks!The younger generation, which you are clearly NOT! I swear you belong in 19th century, early 20th century, when 'Aussies' were going to war for 'King and Country'....

It is the 26th of March, 2010!

Doesn't hold true where I reside at the moment, or even where I reside temporarily.

Care to substantiate that statement?

All you have to do is travel the world to see how even the Americans, Australians and Canadians have invented their own ethnicity. This ethnicity also comprises a Cypriot element!

How do you fail to notice your own contradictions?

First you claim :

The notion of race/ethnicity is very much outdated.

Then you " attempt to "support" this by saying:

... even the Americans, Australians and Canadians have invented their own

So what's it to be?

Is ethnicity "outdated" or being "invented" to this day?

Not a contradiction at all. The Americans, Australians and Canadians are the most internationalist of them all, and hence they are more 'Hellenic' than you, since they have the vision you don't, and have built a nation from all nations!

In the same way as the visionary Turks have built a "nation on Cyprus", perhaps?

And you are assisting their "nation" building on Cyprus.

How could I be? You are the one extolling the virtues of parallel "nation building" in other colonised territories.

Did the Greeks colonise Cyprus or not?

[bill cobbett]

Gosh, have gone all Classical tonight.

Just time before retiring to must mention Our Beloved Very Ancient and Very Late Brother, the Great CY Philosopher, Zeno Scalliotis, who although spending much of his career teaching in Atheneucia, seems to have refused Atheneucian Citizenship and maintained his attachment to the old country and his old village.

Here's an extract from somewhere or other.....

Zeno refused to become an Athenian citizen since he wanted to be loyal to Cyprus. His pride in his origins and the pride of his countrymen in him is well illustrated by an account told by Antigonus of Carystos which states: Zeno himself never denied that he was a native of Cittium. For that when on one occasion, there was a citizen of that town who had contributed to the building of some baths, and was having his name engraved on the pillar, as the countryman of Zeno the philosopher, he bade them add, "Of Cittium."