Piratis wrote:Paphitis wrote:Piratis wrote:Cyprus is just as Greek as any other Greek territory.
The only reason Cyprus is not part of the Greek state is because this has been denied to us by foreign Imperialists who wanted to keep Cyprus isolated in order to be easier for them to continue to exploit and control our island for their own geopolitical interests.
BOF wrote:any mention of the hitites? it was their island once...
Can you Advise someone whose island has been invaded many times when this island now called cyprus was invaded and became part of the ancient greek empire please.
Cyprus has always been invaded, never the invader. to think that people and races didnt intermingle just as they do now, in those days of myth, legend and less socialised strata doesnt support a one race superiority/ logevity theory in my opinion, and DNA from Cypriots suggests the same.
You may well be a Cypriot from Cyprus - but you may well NOT be of Greek origin.
Of course DNA can be used to convict people but some suggest it doesnt count when referring to racial origins
Cyprus has a Greek population for 1000s of years. Our ethnicity does not depend on which empire rules Cyprus. Or maybe you think that we were ethnic Turks until 1878 and then we became English until 1960?
Nobody said that in Cyprus races didn't intermingle. Of course they did just like in every other place. And the intermingling of races does not depend on the how ofter a place is invaded. Look at the intermingling of races that is going on in places like London, even thought the city was not invaded for centuries.
If the intermingling of races is an argument against Cyprus being a Greek island, then London could not possibly be part of Britain either.
Cyprus belongs to Cypriots and if we wanted we could have united our island with Japan or Argentina (as long as those we would unite with also wanted this union). The fact that uniting our island with the rest of Greece was denied to us has nothing to do with what we are, and everything to do with the interests of those Imperialists who denied to us our right to freely and democratically decide the destiny of our own island.
So this means that Australia, the US and New Zealand are British, Irish and part Germanic? This means that Canada is British and partially French?
Go back to sleep Piratis!
The Australians, Americans, Canadians etc choose to be separate. They also choose how separate they want to be. The Australian flag contains the British flag, and the head of state of Australia is Elizabeth II.
The Flag is only a symbol, but it bears no relationship to Britain. The Flag just hasn't been a major priority for Australians, as they don't have any hangups about it. However, the flag will change within the next for years.
The Australian Head of State is the Queen of Australia. It is considered an Australian symbol as Australia was a Dominion of the British Empire and equal to Britain itself. That is why, even the British SBAs, still to this day have Australian personnel and Ayios Nickolaos is part of Australia's Echelon intelligence network.
Australia is a Crown Democracy, and this too will change after the next Federal Election.
Both the Flag and the Crown are not considered British, but Australian, believe it or not.
There are no "mother" attachments to Britain anymore.
In fact, I would say that Australia is far closer to countries such as Japan, Canada, New Zealand and of course the US. Britain is almost irrelevant!
Similarly many other territories choose to be united in a single nation. An island is just another territory. Just because Tasmania is an island this doesn't mean Tasmania can not be Australian and the people that live there can not be Australians.
Tasmania was one of the original colonies that formed The Commonwealth of Australia!
It all boils down to choice. And the fact is that our choice was to be part of the Greek Republic and the British and Turkish Imperialists denied to us this right because they wanted to keep Cyprus isolated making it easier for them to exploit us.
If it comes down to choice, then Cypriots are increasingly wanting to acknowledge their Cypriotness. Not all Greek speaking Cypriots want to acknowledge their "Greek" attachments, because they realise that this is the only way forward just like Australians, Americans, Canadians and Kiwis did long ago.
The 1950s were a different time. We are now in the 21st century, and whether you like it or not, attachments to the "mother", and the "Greek" Cypriot label will fall by the wayside, because as I said earlier, their will be many more Cypriots who will never identify with the GC or TC labels in the future.
This is the reality you must face. The Cypriot ethnos must be allowed to flourish, because this is what Cypriots are increasingly wanting to do. Then maybe, one day, Cypriots will be able to form their own nation upon solid democratic foundations where all citizens are equal instead of having the Zurich constitution or some kind of racially divisive BBF.
Something similar can be said about Austria, where the vast majority of the population are ethnic Germans. Austria is not a separate country because this is what the population of that territory wanted, but because this was imposed on them by foreign powers who didn't want to allow Germany to grow bigger and more powerful.