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[Paphitis]

You are welcome to join, but if your going to peddle your Greek this and Greek that, just be weary that we take Cypriot nation building very seriously and don't appreciate anyone undermining it. Our existence as an independent nation without Turkey's shadow hanging over our heads depends on this. It's about time you realised this.

There comes a time when even Cypriots will mature, just like the Americans, Kiwis, Canadians and Aussies have!

Have you considered starting a forum in Greek for, you know, those Cypriots that stayed in Cyprus?

Don't they need to know?

You mean in the alphabet we developed.

It should be called Cypriot, not Greek!

At least you understand the task you've taken up is nation building

Every Cypriot's duty to to contribute something, no matter how big or small.

However, I'm afraid those insignificant peasants won't be too eager to replace Greek Independence Day with ANZAC Day

Why would Cypriots commemorate ANZAC Day? Cypriots are not Australians! Cypriots are Cypriots and should be commemorating their own independence day, when this is achieved.

But I do admit that Cypriots would be better off commemorating ANZAC Day, and ditching Greece as their "mother" and have Australia fulfill that role instead.

You see, Australia has never been a disaster for Cyprus, but Greece certainly has!

Sure, go and become the bitch of whoever gives you more. Cypriots are Greeks, not because Greece has helped Cyprus or not, but because that's just who they are.

Learn the language and go ask them if you don't believe me

Cypriots are Cypriots, Americans are Americans, Australians are Australians, Kiwis and Kiwis and so on.

Honestly Alexis, when are you going to grow up?

[Piratis]

Cyprus is just as Greek as any other Greek territory.

The only reason Cyprus is not part of the Greek state is because this has been denied to us by foreign Imperialists who wanted to keep Cyprus isolated in order to be easier for them to continue to exploit and control our island for their own geopolitical interests.

any mention of the hitites? it was their island once...

Can you Advise someone whose island has been invaded many times when this island now called cyprus was invaded and became part of the ancient greek empire please.

Cyprus has always been invaded, never the invader. to think that people and races didnt intermingle just as they do now, in those days of myth, legend and less socialised strata doesnt support a one race superiority/ logevity theory in my opinion, and DNA from Cypriots suggests the same.
You may well be a Cypriot from Cyprus - but you may well NOT be of Greek origin.
Of course DNA can be used to convict people but some suggest it doesnt count when referring to racial origins

Cyprus has a Greek population for 1000s of years. Our ethnicity does not depend on which empire rules Cyprus. Or maybe you think that we were ethnic Turks until 1878 and then we became English until 1960?

Nobody said that in Cyprus races didn't intermingle. Of course they did just like in every other place. And the intermingling of races does not depend on the how ofter a place is invaded. Look at the intermingling of races that is going on in places like London, even thought the city was not invaded for centuries.

If the intermingling of races is an argument against Cyprus being a Greek island, then London could not possibly be part of Britain either.

Cyprus belongs to Cypriots and if we wanted we could have united our island with Japan or Argentina (as long as those we would unite with also wanted this union). The fact that uniting our island with the rest of Greece was denied to us has nothing to do with what we are, and everything to do with the interests of those Imperialists who denied to us our right to freely and democratically decide the destiny of our own island.

[alexISS]

Honestly Alexis, when are you going to grow up?

Who knows, it only took you a few days

[alexISS]

Cyprus is just as Greek as any other Greek territory.

The only reason Cyprus is not part of the Greek state is because this has been denied to us by foreign Imperialists who wanted to keep Cyprus isolated in order to be easier for them to continue to exploit and control our island for their own geopolitical interests.

any mention of the hitites? it was their island once...

Can you Advise someone whose island has been invaded many times when this island now called cyprus was invaded and became part of the ancient greek empire please.

Cyprus has always been invaded, never the invader. to think that people and races didnt intermingle just as they do now, in those days of myth, legend and less socialised strata doesnt support a one race superiority/ logevity theory in my opinion, and DNA from Cypriots suggests the same.
You may well be a Cypriot from Cyprus - but you may well NOT be of Greek origin.
Of course DNA can be used to convict people but some suggest it doesnt count when referring to racial origins

Cyprus has a Greek population for 1000s of years. Our ethnicity does not depend on which empire rules Cyprus. Or maybe you think that we were ethnic Turks until 1878 and then we became English until 1960?

Nobody said that in Cyprus races didn't intermingle. Of course they did just like in every other place. And the intermingling of races does not depend on the how ofter a place is invaded. Look at the intermingling of races that is going on in places like London, even thought the city was not invaded for centuries.

If the intermingling of races is an argument against Cyprus being a Greek island, then London could not possibly be part of Britain either.

Cyprus belongs to Cypriots and if we wanted we could have united our island with Japan or Argentina (as long as those we would unite with also wanted this union). The fact that uniting our island with the rest of Greece was denied to us has nothing to do with what we are, and everything to do with the interests of those Imperialists who denied to us our right to freely and democratically decide the destiny of our own island.

Oh Piratis please grow up. Didn't you read Paphitis' post? Cyprus and Greece are two different words, therefore Cypriots<>Greeks.

Μερικές φορές αναρρωτιέμαι πού βρίσκεις την υπομονή...

[Paphitis]

Honestly Alexis, when are you going to grow up?

Who knows, it only took you a few days

And you a whole life time!

[Paphitis]

Cyprus is just as Greek as any other Greek territory.

The only reason Cyprus is not part of the Greek state is because this has been denied to us by foreign Imperialists who wanted to keep Cyprus isolated in order to be easier for them to continue to exploit and control our island for their own geopolitical interests.

any mention of the hitites? it was their island once...

Can you Advise someone whose island has been invaded many times when this island now called cyprus was invaded and became part of the ancient greek empire please.

Cyprus has always been invaded, never the invader. to think that people and races didnt intermingle just as they do now, in those days of myth, legend and less socialised strata doesnt support a one race superiority/ logevity theory in my opinion, and DNA from Cypriots suggests the same.
You may well be a Cypriot from Cyprus - but you may well NOT be of Greek origin.
Of course DNA can be used to convict people but some suggest it doesnt count when referring to racial origins

Cyprus has a Greek population for 1000s of years. Our ethnicity does not depend on which empire rules Cyprus. Or maybe you think that we were ethnic Turks until 1878 and then we became English until 1960?

Nobody said that in Cyprus races didn't intermingle. Of course they did just like in every other place. And the intermingling of races does not depend on the how ofter a place is invaded. Look at the intermingling of races that is going on in places like London, even thought the city was not invaded for centuries.

If the intermingling of races is an argument against Cyprus being a Greek island, then London could not possibly be part of Britain either.

Cyprus belongs to Cypriots and if we wanted we could have united our island with Japan or Argentina (as long as those we would unite with also wanted this union). The fact that uniting our island with the rest of Greece was denied to us has nothing to do with what we are, and everything to do with the interests of those Imperialists who denied to us our right to freely and democratically decide the destiny of our own island.

So this means that Australia, the US and New Zealand are British, Irish and part Germanic? This means that Canada is British and partially French?

Go back to sleep Piratis!

[Svetlana]

But Piratis Cyprus is not 'as any other Greek territory'

Cyprus is a self ruling Sovereign State, where Law is laid down in Lefkosia not Arthens.

We get out cars from Germany
We get our TVs from japan
We get our mobiles from Korea
We get our tourists from the UK
We get out fast food and trendy coffee houses from the US, and , most importantly, we get our over-arching Legislation from the EU.

I would suggest to you that now there are more inhabitants for who Greek is not their first language (but Turkish/Russian/English/Sinhala) than for who it is.

30 years ago, when there was a threat of further invasion, there was a need to cling to Greece's coatails, but no longer. I do not believe the younger generation feel the same loyalty to Greece and IMO the flags we will see flying over our offices and homes will be those of Cyprus and the EU and no longer Greece.

Lana

[alexISS]

This means that Canada is British and partially French?

It would be if the people of Canada would want so. That' the difference between Canada and Cyprus: Canadians want to be Canadians, Greek Cypriots want to be Greek Cypriots, and no outsider has the authority to change that.
I'll say it again: first learn their language and then go tell the Cypriots who they are

[Paphitis]

This means that Canada is British and partially French?

It would be if the people of Canada would want so. That' the difference between Canada and Cyprus: Canadians want to be Canadians, Greek Cypriots want to be Greek Cypriots, and no outsider has the authority to change that.
I'll say it again: first learn their language and then go tell the Cypriots who they are

So what you are saying is that some Cypriots have some growing up to do!

Why are you so determined to prevent this from happening?

Not all Cypriots want to be "Greek" Cypriots. Many just want to be Cypriot! Sketo!

[Paphitis]

But Piratis Cyprus is not 'as any other Greek territory'

Cyprus is a self ruling Sovereign State, where Law is laid down in Lefkosia not Arthens.

We get out cars from Germany
We get our TVs from japan
We get our mobiles from Korea
We get our tourists from the UK
We get out fast food and trendy coffee houses from the US, and , most importantly, we get our over-arching Legislation from the EU.

I would suggest to you that now there are more inhabitants for who Greek is not their first language (but Turkish/Russian/English/Sinhala) than for who it is.

30 years ago, when there was a threat of further invasion, there was a need to cling to Greece's coatails, but no longer. I do not believe the younger generation feel the same loyalty to Greece and IMO the flags we will see flying over our offices and homes will be those of Cyprus and the EU and no longer Greece.

Lana

This is true, and in a 100 years from now, there will be many more non "Greek" Cypriots who are nevertheless Cypriot.

So it is only natural that Cypriots will develop their own ethnos even further, just like other new countries have, in order to be all encompassing and inclusive of all new arrivals.

If we maintain these "Turkish" Cypriot and "Greek" Cypriot labels, then the day will come when both these communities will be minorities. Cypriots politics will become the domain of other larger British, Russian or Indian communities. But if all become just plain Cypriot, then there will never be any issue.