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Re: If Cyprus reunites...

Postby Get Real! » Mon Mar 22, 2010 3:29 pm

Ozan89 wrote:'If the island of Cyprus reunites, would Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots repeat the crimes of the past?'

:? The answer to your question is entirely dependant on the meaning of this word.
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Postby Ozan89 » Mon Mar 22, 2010 3:45 pm

Well I'm not actually questioning whether Cyprus will be united or not; I am focusing on the consequences of reunifying the island... I am moving away from the popular usage of politics and taking this subject into a sociological and criminological perspective. Therefore, the questions are based on peoples realistic thoughts about the other.
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Mar 22, 2010 3:47 pm

Ozan89 wrote:Well I'm not actually questioning whether Cyprus will be united or not; I am focusing on the consequences of reunifying the island... I am moving away from the popular usage of politics and taking this subject into a sociological and criminological perspective. Therefore, the questions are based on peoples realistic thoughts about the other.

What exactly does “reunites” mean?

Politically arranged in the TCs favor? In the GCs favor? In favor of Cypriots? In Americas or Turkey’s favor?

That's what's going to determine what you ask about...
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Postby Ozan89 » Mon Mar 22, 2010 3:54 pm

As I said before, my focus is not on reunification... only the sociological and criminological consquences of it. Therefore, I am not looking at 'whose favour it will be in'. I am trying to take the 'Cyprus problem' to a different academic perspective. My aim is to examine the attitudes of both communities towards each other by investigating whether their current feelings towards eachother would lead to a repetition of ethnic conflicts between the two communities.
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Mar 22, 2010 3:55 pm

Ozan89 wrote:As I said before, my focus is not on reunification... only the sociological and criminological consquences of it. Therefore, I am not looking at 'whose favour it will be in'. I am trying to take the 'Cyprus problem' to a different academic perspective. My aim is to examine the attitudes of both communities towards each other by investigating whether their current feelings towards eachother would lead to a repetition of ethnic conflicts between the two communities.

The political arrangement established on Cyprus will determine whether or not trouble will erupt. <-That's the answer to your question.

For example, a BBF or BBC is a racially motivated undemocratic arrangement that is bound to end up in clashes and ultimately serve Turkey.

However, a democratic one-person-one-vote system leaves no room for such games, sets the path for the ousting of foreign interferences, and is thus the best guarantee for peace and prosperity.
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Mar 22, 2010 4:16 pm

Ozan89 wrote:...by investigating whether their current feelings towards eachother would lead to a repetition of ethnic conflicts...

Current feelings have nothing to do with the potential for clashes but INJUSTICE in the “solution”.

Dejavu London/Zurich agreements of 1959!

What went wrong? Disproportional House of Representatives!

And what would a current BBF or BBC do? Disproportional everything!

Result: Disaster!
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Postby Ozan89 » Mon Mar 22, 2010 4:27 pm

Get Real, people such as myself were not even born in 1959. What about the thoughts and feelings of Cypriots born after 1963-74?

I personally believe that looking at the 'Cyprus problem' in a political sense is extremely backwards and ineffective. We need to look at the subject in another light. If people keep repeating the same political thoughts over and over again what will it achieve? Nothing. Hence the reason why my dissertation will avoid politics.
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Postby YFred » Mon Mar 22, 2010 4:37 pm

Ozan89 wrote:Get Real, people such as myself were not even born in 1959. What about the thoughts and feelings of Cypriots born after 1963-74?

I personally believe that looking at the 'Cyprus problem' in a political sense is extremely backwards and ineffective. We need to look at the subject in another light. If people keep repeating the same political thoughts over and over again what will it achieve? Nothing. Hence the reason why my dissertation will avoid politics.

Welcome to the forum Ozan. To the patriot GC cousins the fact that you were not born at the time does not absolve you of the problem . You caused it because you are a turkish cypritot.

My advice to you is to tell people like GR and Oracle and the rest of the patriot sheepriots to get stuffed.
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Mar 22, 2010 4:41 pm

Ozan89 wrote:Get Real, people such as myself were not even born in 1959. What about the thoughts and feelings of Cypriots born after 1963-74?

I was born in 65 but so what? :?

I personally believe that looking at the 'Cyprus problem' in a political sense is extremely backwards and ineffective. We need to look at the subject in another light. If people keep repeating the same political thoughts over and over again what will it achieve?

If I were to look at the Cyprus problem strictly from a humanitarian/social standpoint then I would conclude that all “Turkish Cypriots” should be repatriated back to Turkey where they belong and where they’ll be safe via a civilized UN program with all concerned countries participating toward this cause.

So the choices that WOULD work are as follows:

1. A civilized UN repatriation program. (The minority departs to join its people)

2. A democratic one-person-one-vote system. (The breakaway minority blends in with Cypriots)

3. War to determine the outcome. (Winner takes all)

There you go!

Nothing. Hence the reason why my dissertation will avoid politics.

:? I'm starting to wonder if it's gonna be worth reading! :lol:
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Postby denizaksulu » Mon Mar 22, 2010 5:03 pm

YFred wrote:
Ozan89 wrote:Get Real, people such as myself were not even born in 1959. What about the thoughts and feelings of Cypriots born after 1963-74?

I personally believe that looking at the 'Cyprus problem' in a political sense is extremely backwards and ineffective. We need to look at the subject in another light. If people keep repeating the same political thoughts over and over again what will it achieve? Nothing. Hence the reason why my dissertation will avoid politics.

Welcome to the forum Ozan. To the patriot GC cousins the fact that you were not born at the time does not absolve you of the problem . You caused it because you are a turkish cypritot.

My advice to you is to tell people like GR and Oracle and the rest of the patriot sheepriots to get stuffed.



Thats NOT nice Yfred. How do we prevent us making the same mistakes again? We have to bear the past in mind.
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