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Postby yialousa1971 » Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:22 am

Thanos Petrelis - Thimizis kati apo Ellada

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Postby Svetlana » Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:27 am

Cyprus = Beautiful country + friendly people.

Greece = Bancrupt country+ rioting people.


I do not see a comparison ;-)
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Postby yialousa1971 » Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:42 am

Beautiful CYPRUS, Κύπρος



Cyprus - Island of Love



Alkistis Protopsalti: I found you at Monemvasia-Σε βρήκα στη Μονεμβασιά

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Postby yialousa1971 » Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:44 am

Svetlana wrote:Cyprus = Beautiful country + friendly people.

Greece = Bancrupt country+ rioting people.


I do not see a comparison ;-)


Thats because your Russian. :wink:
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Postby yialousa1971 » Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:52 am



Kypros-Ellada :wink:
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Postby Oracle » Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:58 am

The two states are independent but their primordial people are one and the same. It's an insult to both/either states to try and abort their connection simply because their present financial situations appear different. Those are matters of the 'here and now' and of the least importance to the psyche of the Hellenic people.

Even the Homeric legends were a collaborative work involving Stasinos of Cyprus (son-in-law of Homer) who wrote the prequel to the Iliad as background for Homer.

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Cypria / Kypria

The Cypria (Κύπρια; Latin: Cypria) is an epic of ancient Greek literature that was quite well known in the Classical period and fixed in a received text, but which subsequently was lost to view. It was one of the Epic Cycle, that is, the Trojan" cycle, which told the entire history of the Trojan War in epic hexameter verse. The story of the Cypria comes chronologically at the beginning of the Epic Cycle, and is followed by that of the Iliad; the composition of the two was apparently in the reverse order The poem comprised eleven books of verse in epic dactylic hexameters.

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The Cypria, in the written form in which it was known in classical Greece, was probably composed in the later seventh century BC,[1] but there is much uncertainty. The Cyclic poets, as the translator of Homerica Hugh G. Evelyn-White noted[2] "were careful not to trespass upon ground already occupied by Homer," one of the reasons for dating the final, literary form of Cypria as post-Homeric, in effect a "prequel". "The author of the Kypria already regarded the Iliad as a text. Any reading of the Kypria will show it preparing for events for (specifically) the Iliad in order to refer back to them, for instance the sale of Lykaon to Lemnos or the kitting out of Achilles with Briseis and Agamemnon with Chryseis".[3] A comparison can be made with the Aithiopis, also lost, but which even in its quoted fragments is more independent of the Iliad as text.

The stories contained in the Cypria, on the other hand, were fixed[4] much earlier than that, and the same problems of dating oral traditions associated with the Homeric epics also apply to the Cypria. Many or all of the stories in the Cypria were known to the composer(s) of the Iliad and Odyssey. The Cypria, in presupposing an acquaintance with the events of the Homeric poem, thus formed a kind of introduction to the Iliad (Encyclopaedia Britannica, 1911: "Stasinus").

The title Cypria, associating the epic with Cyprus,[5] demanded some explanation: the epic was said in one ancient tradition[6] to have been given by Homer as a dowry to his son-in-law, a Stasinus of Cyprus mentioned in no other context; there was apparently an allusion to this in a lost Nemean ode by Pindar. Some later writers repeated the story. It did at least serve to explain why the Cypria was attributed by some to Homer and by others to Stasinus. Others, however, ascribed the poem to Hegesias (or Hegesinus) of Salamis in Cyprus or to Cyprias of Halicarnassus (see Cyclic poets).

It is possible that the "Trojan Battle Order" (the list of Trojans and their allies, of Iliad 2.816-876, which forms an appendix to the "Catalogue of Ships") is abridged from that in the Cypria, which was known to contain in its final book a list of the Trojan allies.

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Postby wyoming cowboy » Sun Mar 21, 2010 9:31 am

Very interesting post Oracle, i think i remember that in the Illiad, it mentions that ships were sent from Cyprus...Bravo Oracle....!!!!!!!!
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Postby Oracle » Sun Mar 21, 2010 10:43 am

wyoming cowboy wrote:Very interesting post Oracle, i think i remember that in the Illiad, it mentions that ships were sent from Cyprus...Bravo Oracle....!!!!!!!!


Isn't it wonderful to think of these authors collaborating across such great distances, and so long ago? :D

Much has been discovered on the extent of trading between Cyprus and Greece via merchant ships, of builders constructing similar amphitheatres, temples, dwellings; of household items, receptacles, coinage; even Cypriot philosophers completing their studies in Athens. But to think how close-knit they must have been to complete these literary works proves how far ahead they were of anything else prevalent at that historical time-point. It's so similar to how authors, editors etc collaborate to this day e.g. a publisher in New York and an Editor in London, say, to complete a novel. Breathtaking! :D
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Postby miltiades » Sun Mar 21, 2010 11:18 am

Cyprus today is an independent nation the home of both the G/Cs and T/Cs , it is not a Greek island anymore that it is a Turkish one. I adore Greek music , I played it professional , I speak the language I share traditional values but there again I also love other music , Ella for one and Dinah Washington , Billie Holiday , Nina Simone , Nat King Cole all black and all American , Im neither black nor American.
Our relationship with the Greek people is without question but our relationship with other Cypriots , Armenian T/Cs is beyond question too.
Getting sentimental and losing sense of reality is not conducive to the long struggle for a completely unite Cyprus .
Anyone likes Turkish music by any chance ?
LONG MAY THE ETHNOS OF CYPRUS CONTINUE TO FLOURISH !!
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Postby denizaksulu » Sun Mar 21, 2010 11:23 am

Svetlana wrote:Cyprus = Beautiful country + friendly people.

Greece = Bancrupt country+ rioting people.


I do not see a comparison ;-)


Bancrupt country + revolting people :lol: :lol:


with a few exceptions ofcourse :lol: :lol:
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