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How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby bill cobbett » Wed Mar 24, 2010 9:55 pm

vaughanwilliams wrote:
B25 wrote:
vaughanwilliams wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Absolutely nothing in the face of GC intrangience.


Surely VP there's always an opportunity to wrong foot "us" with a minor concession at this critical stage? Thought Turks were a bit cleverer than this at bartering.


GCs do not want a solution they have what they want which is a gc state allnthey need to do is be seen to want a solution to keep gc refugees in line by thinking they will one day return.


Yes OK but that doesn't stop an incy wincy tiny little concession from Turkey at this stage does it? If only to win support amongst the International Community for its position in its often stated desire for a settlement


Bill,

What would you suggest?


1. Handing over all the cheapskates to the RoC for presecution
2. Buggering off the Island and leave the country to the peace loving GCs
3. Staying away from us.

Just to name a few.


In your dreams. :lol:


Gosh, what would a mischievous, playful sort of chap suggest to wrong-foot the other side,? ..... Well (and putting on a Turkish Fez as it were) something along the lines of a token withdrawal of a very, very small part of the TA, say a platoon, what's that about 100 strong, and play it for all it's worth with the promise that it's just the start.
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Postby YFred » Wed Mar 24, 2010 11:12 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
vaughanwilliams wrote:
B25 wrote:
vaughanwilliams wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Absolutely nothing in the face of GC intrangience.


Surely VP there's always an opportunity to wrong foot "us" with a minor concession at this critical stage? Thought Turks were a bit cleverer than this at bartering.


GCs do not want a solution they have what they want which is a gc state allnthey need to do is be seen to want a solution to keep gc refugees in line by thinking they will one day return.


Yes OK but that doesn't stop an incy wincy tiny little concession from Turkey at this stage does it? If only to win support amongst the International Community for its position in its often stated desire for a settlement


Bill,

What would you suggest?


1. Handing over all the cheapskates to the RoC for presecution
2. Buggering off the Island and leave the country to the peace loving GCs
3. Staying away from us.

Just to name a few.


In your dreams. :lol:


Gosh, what would a mischievous, playful sort of chap suggest to wrong-foot the other side,? ..... Well (and putting on a Turkish Fez as it were) something along the lines of a token withdrawal of a very, very small part of the TA, say a platoon, what's that about 100 strong, and play it for all it's worth with the promise that it's just the start.

Witnout the peace agreement, how can she remove a single soldier?
What's the matter with you, have you been at the magic mushrooms again?
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Postby Viewpoint » Wed Mar 24, 2010 11:28 pm

So you want them to lie?
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Postby bill cobbett » Thu Mar 25, 2010 1:24 am

YFred wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
vaughanwilliams wrote:
B25 wrote:
vaughanwilliams wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Absolutely nothing in the face of GC intrangience.


Surely VP there's always an opportunity to wrong foot "us" with a minor concession at this critical stage? Thought Turks were a bit cleverer than this at bartering.


GCs do not want a solution they have what they want which is a gc state allnthey need to do is be seen to want a solution to keep gc refugees in line by thinking they will one day return.


Yes OK but that doesn't stop an incy wincy tiny little concession from Turkey at this stage does it? If only to win support amongst the International Community for its position in its often stated desire for a settlement


Bill,

What would you suggest?


1. Handing over all the cheapskates to the RoC for presecution
2. Buggering off the Island and leave the country to the peace loving GCs
3. Staying away from us.

Just to name a few.


In your dreams. :lol:


Gosh, what would a mischievous, playful sort of chap suggest to wrong-foot the other side,? ..... Well (and putting on a Turkish Fez as it were) something along the lines of a token withdrawal of a very, very small part of the TA, say a platoon, what's that about 100 strong, and play it for all it's worth with the promise that it's just the start.

Witnout the peace agreement, how can she remove a single soldier?
What's the matter with you, have you been at the magic mushrooms again?


Thanks mate, that's absolutely the point of the thread..... not a "single soldier" ..... you said it, couldn't have put it better myself.

You've shown us the extent of goodwill, concessions and compromises etc etc that Turkey and the Regime are prepared to show......

..........not a "single soldier" .
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Postby vaughanwilliams » Thu Mar 25, 2010 8:53 am

bill cobbett wrote:
YFred wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
vaughanwilliams wrote:
B25 wrote:
vaughanwilliams wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Absolutely nothing in the face of GC intrangience.


Surely VP there's always an opportunity to wrong foot "us" with a minor concession at this critical stage? Thought Turks were a bit cleverer than this at bartering.


GCs do not want a solution they have what they want which is a gc state allnthey need to do is be seen to want a solution to keep gc refugees in line by thinking they will one day return.


Yes OK but that doesn't stop an incy wincy tiny little concession from Turkey at this stage does it? If only to win support amongst the International Community for its position in its often stated desire for a settlement


Bill,

What would you suggest?


1. Handing over all the cheapskates to the RoC for presecution
2. Buggering off the Island and leave the country to the peace loving GCs
3. Staying away from us.

Just to name a few.


In your dreams. :lol:


Gosh, what would a mischievous, playful sort of chap suggest to wrong-foot the other side,? ..... Well (and putting on a Turkish Fez as it were) something along the lines of a token withdrawal of a very, very small part of the TA, say a platoon, what's that about 100 strong, and play it for all it's worth with the promise that it's just the start.

Witnout the peace agreement, how can she remove a single soldier?
What's the matter with you, have you been at the magic mushrooms again?


Thanks mate, that's absolutely the point of the thread..... not a "single soldier" ..... you said it, couldn't have put it better myself.

You've shown us the extent of goodwill, concessions and compromises etc etc that Turkey and the Regime are prepared to show......

..........not a "single soldier" .


Troop deployments vary all the time depending on the demands put on the armed forces of any nation.
There are probably far more soldiers here than the situation warrants and I imagine thinks like the PKK trouble put demands on the TA that causes some troops to be withdrawn from TRNC and sent to Eastern Turkey from time to time.
My point here is that occasionally troop numbers here do decrease for operational reasons and TR could easily say the transfer of these troops is a partial withdrawal to be seen as a political goodwill gesture.
The problem is: would you believe them?
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Postby YFred » Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:12 am

vaughanwilliams wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
YFred wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
vaughanwilliams wrote:
B25 wrote:
vaughanwilliams wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Absolutely nothing in the face of GC intrangience.


Surely VP there's always an opportunity to wrong foot "us" with a minor concession at this critical stage? Thought Turks were a bit cleverer than this at bartering.


GCs do not want a solution they have what they want which is a gc state allnthey need to do is be seen to want a solution to keep gc refugees in line by thinking they will one day return.


Yes OK but that doesn't stop an incy wincy tiny little concession from Turkey at this stage does it? If only to win support amongst the International Community for its position in its often stated desire for a settlement


Bill,

What would you suggest?


1. Handing over all the cheapskates to the RoC for presecution
2. Buggering off the Island and leave the country to the peace loving GCs
3. Staying away from us.

Just to name a few.


In your dreams. :lol:


Gosh, what would a mischievous, playful sort of chap suggest to wrong-foot the other side,? ..... Well (and putting on a Turkish Fez as it were) something along the lines of a token withdrawal of a very, very small part of the TA, say a platoon, what's that about 100 strong, and play it for all it's worth with the promise that it's just the start.

Witnout the peace agreement, how can she remove a single soldier?
What's the matter with you, have you been at the magic mushrooms again?


Thanks mate, that's absolutely the point of the thread..... not a "single soldier" ..... you said it, couldn't have put it better myself.

You've shown us the extent of goodwill, concessions and compromises etc etc that Turkey and the Regime are prepared to show......

..........not a "single soldier" .


Troop deployments vary all the time depending on the demands put on the armed forces of any nation.
There are probably far more soldiers here than the situation warrants and I imagine thinks like the PKK trouble put demands on the TA that causes some troops to be withdrawn from TRNC and sent to Eastern Turkey from time to time.
My point here is that occasionally troop numbers here do decrease for operational reasons and TR could easily say the transfer of these troops is a partial withdrawal to be seen as a political goodwill gesture.
The problem is: would you believe them?

Now listen here VW. You can't go round giving TA secrets away just like that. The fact that the numbers have gone down to 25000 from 50000 is neither here nor there. Here I am trying to wind them up and there you are trying to help them. Shame on you. :lol: :lol:
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