georgios100 wrote:cyprusgrump wrote:georgios100 wrote:cyprusgrump wrote:georgios100 wrote:apc2010 wrote:georgios100 wrote:apc2010 wrote:Do the electric cars use fossil fuel or windmill electric?????
apc2010, is this a real question?
Electric cars use electricity produced by many ways, including wind power.
The part you are missing is this: Electric cars don't use petrol, that's why these cars don't have a gas tank but a battery bank, get it?
Georgios100
Electric cars require a massive amount of batteries which are envromentally harmfull to manufacture, discard or recycle. If you are recharging an electric car with fossil fuel ,mile for mile no better overall
The batteries are a problem, perhaps recycle might be acceptable. If renewable "hydro" was more available then mile for mile would make more sense. Still, conventional cars are made via fossil fuels and burn fossil fuels to move us around. Electric cars "burn" electricity, reducing their footprint and provide cleaner air for us to breath. It's a start. We are beginning to do something about carbon emissions and pollution. We have a long way to go. Electric cars will lead the way to better and "greener" solutions. It's better than nothing.
Georgios100
Electric cars....
Not only do they use Nickel in the batteries which has to be mined and transported half-way around the world to Japan where they are manufactured...
...but they run on fossil fuels. The electricity is generated by burning fossil fuel... all you are doing is moving the pollution from one place to another...
'Renewable energy' like wind will never replace the billions of gallons of crude oil we turn into petrol and diesel to run our vehicles. The only current advantage of electric vehicles is efficiency gained by recharging overnight when there is spare generating capacity and plants would otherwise need to be shut down...
It is a fantasy to suggest that we can do this, an expensive fantasy as is having 30% of Cyprus' generating capacity from wind...
Denmark achieved 20% windpower. Population 5.5 million people with heavy industrial sector. Electricity demand 10 times greater than Cyprus.
Still a fantasy?
I can look out of my window this morning and see them assembling the second wind generator - why? because it is so calm that they can attach massive blades hanging on the end of a crane. So this is probably a week now when the 30% of our generating capacity you would like to see from wind would produce nothing at all...
You like to see nuclear stacks from your kitchen window? Not many will agree with, my friend.
Are you suggesting that 30% of the country should close down on wind-less days, hospitals closed, operations cancelled?
30% windpower is the yearly average. While the wind is there, we can harvest it. What is wrong with that? Nearly all the countries in the world are installing wind power. Do you think it's politics? Do you think everyone is stupid?
Georgios100
Well yes, they apparently are...
While there is wind we can harvest it... but when the wind stops we have to provide an alternate source of energy.
Paying twice to get a source of electricity is clearly mad.
And think what we could have achieved if we hadn't spent billions on pointless wind farms? We may have solved the fusion problem...
And lastly, referring to your ridiculous scare tactics (typical of eco-fascists), why exactly would the nuclear plant be built outside of my kitchen...? Surely, they'd build it next to existing generating facilities allowing it to use the existing distribution network?
You are the one that complained about the turbines visible from your window... the scare tactics is your field, but where ever they install the nuclear stacks, the visibility is there.
The fusion reactor is far from reality... I bet oil will run out before any real progress in made. In the meantime, wind is harvested for many years now... more efficient turbines "see" the market more often than before.
The electric car... see link http://gm-volt.com/
Related story.
The Niagara hydro plant produces enormous amounts of electricity via the water falls, totally renewable. Some 50 golf courses in the area recharge all their electric golf carts daily for the last 15 years. Can you imagine how many thousands of gallons petrol is saved? People that live in the area can charge their "Volt" cars from the same renewable source. This is a reality, not fiction. Unlike the negative opinions like yours, other countries already are implementing these new renewable principles on every day life. Maybe, in Cyprus, people should be more open minded and welcome windpower instead of bitching about the color of the tower.
Georgios
I think the fusion reactor is closer than the 'green lobby' would like us to believe... Further, I bet if we hadn't wasted so much on building wind turbines all over the world we could have had it by now...
But how does a wind farm in Cyprus relate to Niagra falls? This is typical obfuscation!
Nobody is denying that renewable energy sources like hydro generation (driven by the extremely reliable sun) can be used to generate clean energy....
I am arguing that wind farms do not produce a cheap, reliable source of energy as they depend (obviously!) on the wind and have to be backed-up by traditional generating capacity requiring the end user to pay twice...
It would be much better to invest in research into fusion or simply retro-fitting insulation and/or PV to Cypriot homes.
