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[Nikitas]

CG, now you know why I receive threatening calls from green activists!

I must really piss them off, and to top it all I must be the only journalist in Greece who does not own a car and ride to work on a bike!

[cyprusgrump]

CG, now you know why I receive threatening calls from green activists!

I must really piss them off, and to top it all I must be the only journalist in Greece who does not own a car and ride to work on a bike!

I'm frustrated by 'greens' that read about this stuff in the Daily Fail and believe everything... It is wonderful to have a balanced view from somebody that clearly understands their subject...

I can imagine how difficult it is for you...

[bsharpish]

Hey .... I spent 15 years in the environmental industry.

Specifically in emissions to atmosphere and I can tell you.............
This business IS not A CON,,,,, really

I retired at 42 years old as the profits were pathetic .

On a more serious note ..... Cyprus should worry more about the level of shipping that passes on a daily basis than its power stations.
The power of the shipping industry has "somewhat delayed" the implementation of MARPOL regulations.

FYI ships burn the worst fuel imaginable with little or no abatement technologies...... think pollution levels 100's of times higher than would be permitted by a land based engine

But shhhhhhh............ tell no one

[cyprusgrump]

Hey .... I spent 15 years in the environmental industry.

Specifically in emissions to atmosphere and I can tell you.............
This business IS not A CON,,,,, really

I retired at 42 years old as the profits were pathetic .

On a more serious note ..... Cyprus should worry more about the level of shipping that passes on a daily basis than its power stations.
The power of the shipping industry has "somewhat delayed" the implementation of MARPOL regulations.

FYI ships burn the worst fuel imaginable with little or no abatement technologies...... think pollution levels 100's of times higher than would be permitted by a land based engine

But shhhhhhh............ tell no one

I've mentioned the polluting 'heavy oil' used by shipping many times on this and other forums...

I can see the filthy black fumes coming from ships that pass by close to my house on the South Western tip of the island on the way to/from Limassol...

We import 'clean' wind farms from half way round the world delivered on the most polluting form of transport imaginable....

See also 'low energy' light bulbs shipped from China...

[Nikitas]

Bsharpish,

You make a good point. So you can appreciate the chagrin when in Greece the major media pushing for "green" policies is owned by a shipping magnate. When his stations ram "green" messages down our collective throat it pisses me off.

Modern diesel engines for ships are efficient, but there has to be someone pressing for a retrofit, and no one is.

[Oracle]

If we all gave up refrigerating our food and used basic hygiene methods, we would not be in this mess!

[georgios100]

Countries and scientists from all over the world are actively looking for alternative energy solutions. The investment in R&D is in the billions.

And yet, a few forumers already came to the conclusion, the effort is useless and too expensive. For the moment, yes, renewable energy equipment are costly and need government subsidies. As the technology advances, the cost will be reduced parallel with the increase of oil prices.

I won't be alive, neither will you, to answer our kids, why alternative fuels were not pursued earlier.

A typical phenomenon of unqualified forumers discarding green technology is the lack of vision towards long term energy needs. But we must plan for 50-100 years down the road, if we are to survive on this planet. This is the only reason, green technology is examined, tested and applied.

Of course, we all have our opinions which should be respected, right or wrong.

Georgios100

[CBBB]

Countries and scientists from all over the world are actively looking for alternative energy solutions. The investment in R&D is in the billions.

And yet, a few forumers already came to the conclusion, the effort is useless and too expensive. For the moment, yes, renewable energy equipment are costly and need government subsidies. As the technology advances, the cost will be reduced parallel with the increase of oil prices.

I won't be alive, neither will you, to answer our kids, why alternative fuels were not pursued earlier.

A typical phenomenon of unqualified forumers discarding green technology is the lack of vision towards long term energy needs. But we must plan for 50-100 years down the road, if we are to survive on this planet. This is the only reason, green technology is examined, tested and applied.

Of course, we all have our opinions which should be respected, right or wrong.

Georgios100

Then we will have Nuclear Fusion!

[Get Real!]

Perhaps steel framed houses are the answer, easier to insulate.

http://www.elysianfieldsproperties.com/ ... v-concrete

I have never understood why rusty steel wire/rods wrapped in concrete has ever been accepted as a durable building practice. The ancient Greeks used to wrap iron reinforcing bars in lead to avoid corrosion.

Cypriot houses can be better built by…

1. Not using the Cypriot Vassiliko cement because it contains seawater (which they get for free) resulting in efflorescence during winter.

2. Not using the standard Cyprus brick for external walls which is far too porous and soaks up water like a sponge.

3. Using plastic caps on the ends of steel reinforcement bars to provide room for steel expansion/contraction during changes in climate.

[georgios100]

Countries and scientists from all over the world are actively looking for alternative energy solutions. The investment in R&D is in the billions.

And yet, a few forumers already came to the conclusion, the effort is useless and too expensive. For the moment, yes, renewable energy equipment are costly and need government subsidies. As the technology advances, the cost will be reduced parallel with the increase of oil prices.

I won't be alive, neither will you, to answer our kids, why alternative fuels were not pursued earlier.

A typical phenomenon of unqualified forumers discarding green technology is the lack of vision towards long term energy needs. But we must plan for 50-100 years down the road, if we are to survive on this planet. This is the only reason, green technology is examined, tested and applied.

Of course, we all have our opinions which should be respected, right or wrong.

Georgios100

Then we will have Nuclear Fusion!

Hopefully yes, thanks for your input CBBB. Nuclear fusion is definitely very promising but... there is a but... alternative energy solutions implies by definition, more that one(1), just in case nuclear fusion is proven unreliable or inadequate to satisfy the total needs of a growing population.
Therefor, the R&D continues in all areas of green potential resources.

Where is cyprusgrump? I am sure, he will blow a gasket, reading the above comments as he hates green energy with passion.

Hey grump... are you still with us?