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Postby apc2010 » Tue Mar 23, 2010 12:08 am

the best site in the worild does not work !!!!!!!
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Postby georgios100 » Tue Mar 23, 2010 12:11 am

cyprusgrump wrote:
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apc2010 wrote:just found out if the wind is too strong they turn them off, that is there job....


Yes, they have to 'feather' the blades if the wind is too strong...

My understanding is that in Cyprus the wind is on average too weak or too strong to generate electricity...


The rotor RPM is controlled electronically via an anemometer which "reads" the wind velocity and direction. The onboard computer performs pitch blade adustments to achieve constant RPMs. The rotor always turns at the same speed regardless of wind speed. During high winds (ie over 75 mph) the turbine is shut down by the computer using the build-in brake system to protect the rotor from over-spinning ( a catastrophic event).

The whole operation is done automatically (no human intervention).

Turbine failures seen on the internet are of older types where the anemometer or the computer failed resulting in the destruction of the turbine.


I think Cyprus wind farm is rated 6ms (6 meters per second). This is a moderate wind, not really the best of the best wind sites. This is why the turbines chosen are small, suited for lower wind velocities.

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Chernobil failure seen on the internet are of older type where the systems or the computer failed resulting in the destruction of the reactor.

So, you agree that nuclear is now safe? Yes? :wink:


Not sure if Chernobil was a computer failure or human error... but for Cyprus, human error is very possible if not unavoidable... Cypriots are not to be trusted, right?

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Postby apc2010 » Tue Mar 23, 2010 12:14 am

georgios100 wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
georgios100 wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
apc2010 wrote:just found out if the wind is too strong they turn them off, that is there job....


Yes, they have to 'feather' the blades if the wind is too strong...

My understanding is that in Cyprus the wind is on average too weak or too strong to generate electricity...


The rotor RPM is controlled electronically via an anemometer which "reads" the wind velocity and direction. The onboard computer performs pitch blade adustments to achieve constant RPMs. The rotor always turns at the same speed regardless of wind speed. During high winds (ie over 75 mph) the turbine is shut down by the computer using the build-in brake system to protect the rotor from over-spinning ( a catastrophic event).

The whole operation is done automatically (no human intervention).

Turbine failures seen on the internet are of older types where the anemometer or the computer failed resulting in the destruction of the turbine.


I think Cyprus wind farm is rated 6ms (6 meters per second). This is a moderate wind, not really the best of the best wind sites. This is why the turbines chosen are small, suited for lower wind velocities.

Georgios100


Chernobil failure seen on the internet are of older type where the systems or the computer failed resulting in the destruction of the reactor.

So, you agree that nuclear is now safe? Yes? :wink:


Not sure if Chernobil was a computer failure or human error... but for Cyprus, human error is very possible if not unavoidable... Cypriots are not to be trusted, right?

Georgios100

thought you were cypriot, where did you do your n/s ,as you stated b4
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Postby georgios100 » Tue Mar 23, 2010 12:46 am

apc2010 wrote:
georgios100 wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
georgios100 wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
apc2010 wrote:just found out if the wind is too strong they turn them off, that is there job....


Yes, they have to 'feather' the blades if the wind is too strong...

My understanding is that in Cyprus the wind is on average too weak or too strong to generate electricity...


The rotor RPM is controlled electronically via an anemometer which "reads" the wind velocity and direction. The onboard computer performs pitch blade adustments to achieve constant RPMs. The rotor always turns at the same speed regardless of wind speed. During high winds (ie over 75 mph) the turbine is shut down by the computer using the build-in brake system to protect the rotor from over-spinning ( a catastrophic event).

The whole operation is done automatically (no human intervention).

Turbine failures seen on the internet are of older types where the anemometer or the computer failed resulting in the destruction of the turbine.


I think Cyprus wind farm is rated 6ms (6 meters per second). This is a moderate wind, not really the best of the best wind sites. This is why the turbines chosen are small, suited for lower wind velocities.

Georgios100


Chernobil failure seen on the internet are of older type where the systems or the computer failed resulting in the destruction of the reactor.

So, you agree that nuclear is now safe? Yes? :wink:


Not sure if Chernobil was a computer failure or human error... but for Cyprus, human error is very possible if not unavoidable... Cypriots are not to be trusted, right?

Georgios100

thought you were cypriot, where did you do your n/s ,as you stated b4


I am A Cypriot... just joking above.
What is "n/s" ?
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Postby apc2010 » Tue Mar 23, 2010 12:53 am

National servide
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Postby georgios100 » Tue Mar 23, 2010 1:28 am

apc2010 wrote:National servide


Did that 1972-1974, Famagusta. Was about to be released when the hostilities started. Stayed in service for another 4 months. Later left for Canada (studies), found work and settle here.

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Postby apc2010 » Tue Mar 23, 2010 1:38 am

I guess you had a commonwealth passport then?
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Postby SKI-preo » Tue Mar 23, 2010 2:00 pm

You can buy your own windfarm in Australia for $1000 AUD. These are good for hobby farms holiday homes. My boss has 4 of these on his farm:


http://www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=MG4540

In Oz the government heavily subsidizes Photovoltaics and things like insulation and rain/precipitation tanks.
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Postby cyprusgrump » Sun May 02, 2010 8:42 am

Denmark, the poster child for wind energy boosters, more than doubled its production of wind energy between 1999 and 2007. Yet data from Energinet.dk, the operator of Denmark's natural gas and electricity grids, show that carbon dioxide emissions from electricity generation in 2007 were at about the same level as they were back in 1990, before the country began its frenzied construction of turbines. Denmark has done a good job of keeping its overall carbon dioxide emissions flat, but that is in large part because of near-zero population growth and exorbitant energy taxes, not wind energy. And through 2017, the Danes foresee no decrease in carbon dioxide emissions from electricity generation.


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Postby BOF » Sun May 02, 2010 10:02 am

what about three mile island then?
Cyprus has had the ability to look into producing alternative forms of power, wave power for instance for years, but we lag behind the rest with highly polluting power stations that make us one of the most polluting countries in the EU.
Yes the houses being built are sub standard in their construction regarding energy conservation, but the technology to save energy has been available for years so why no movement on it?
Cyprus has earth tremors on a regular basis - where could you guarentee the site of a power station or the storage facilities required for hundreds of years for the waste material.
the average cypriot produces more waste than an american citizen, yet unlike other countries we havnt built a single plant for burning any waste to produce power.
There are no large scale composting units or the active implementation of home units via the government to compost green waste.
Its the future generations of Cypriots and how their lives will be that should be the agenda. and what sort of a life our descisions leave them to inherit.
plus there are two other problems here - the midset of Cypriots.
And the vested interests of those who want the status quo to stay as it is.
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