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Postby halil » Sat Mar 20, 2010 12:29 am

paliometoxo wrote:so did the tc hard liners when they put tmt to place the bomb and started the troubles on the island... and when they came to cyprus and killed 20,000 gcs for no reason that was not even to "protect" any one.

tcs are not the innocent ones either both are guilty tc and gc hard liners had other plans



I wonder which fiction(novel) u are reading Palio :!: show us this credible fiction that we can also read that TC's killed 20000 GC's.......

I bet u have a grandparents too Palio ,did u ever ask them what happened in 1963 in Cyprus....forget about what the novels says.
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Mar 20, 2010 12:34 am

This thread is a total waste of time as it makes no difference whatsoever who wins.
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Postby paliometoxo » Sat Mar 20, 2010 12:34 am

how convenient.. nothing the tcs did counted? sure it supposed to but obviously they did not wipe anything clean for the hard liners firstly the ones of the gcs who wanted turks to go home to turkey and the turkish cypriots who wanted takism so you still have a lot of unhappy people. maybe the gcs did not trust the tcs seing as they did plant bombs and let the tc people think it was gcs... just as you say you cannot trust the gc people now, maybe the gcs could not trust the tcs then. but it happened and because of that bomb the fighting spread. im not trying to blame it all on tcs but if the bomb was not set would the fight of spread? would tcs of looted gcs buildings? would eoka counter attacked? (not that there would of been anything to counter attack)

would the hard liner gcs still killed many tcs to try unite with greece? i think nothing will ever be forgotten just like any agreement now will NEVER make any tcs forget 1963 .. or will it. if we both agree on a solution tomorrow and your very happy with the terms the tc side and the gc side very happy.. will that make you suddenly forget the tcs that the gcs killed?

it would be nice to put it all behind us 63 74 all the dates. a fresh start is what we all need. and talat is doing a good job sending people away from trnc.. good for their economy and in the end it would be good for ours if we ever united as one.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Mar 20, 2010 12:41 am

paliometoxo wrote:how convenient.. nothing the tcs did counted? sure it supposed to but obviously they did not wipe anything clean for the hard liners firstly the ones of the gcs who wanted turks to go home to turkey and the turkish cypriots who wanted takism so you still have a lot of unhappy people. maybe the gcs did not trust the tcs seing as they did plant bombs and let the tc people think it was gcs... just as you say you cannot trust the gc people now, maybe the gcs could not trust the tcs then. but it happened and because of that bomb the fighting spread. im not trying to blame it all on tcs but if the bomb was not set would the fight of spread? would tcs of looted gcs buildings? would eoka counter attacked? (not that there would of been anything to counter attack)

would the hard liner gcs still killed many tcs to try unite with greece? i think nothing will ever be forgotten just like any agreement now will NEVER make any tcs forget 1963 .. or will it. if we both agree on a solution tomorrow and your very happy with the terms the tc side and the gc side very happy.. will that make you suddenly forget the tcs that the gcs killed?

it would be nice to put it all behind us 63 74 all the dates. a fresh start is what we all need. and talat is doing a good job sending people away from trnc.. good for their economy and in the end it would be good for ours if we ever united as one.


The only way we can ever unite is using a BBF solution with political equality of the 2 sides as backed by the UN thats the only we will ever trust you again.
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Mar 20, 2010 12:48 am

Viewpoint wrote:The only way we can ever unite is using a BBF solution with political equality of the 2 sides as backed by the UN thats the only we will ever trust you again.

Sounds good for you but we can NEVER trust you full stop!
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Postby halil » Sat Mar 20, 2010 12:52 am

paliometoxo wrote:how convenient.. nothing the tcs did counted? sure it supposed to but obviously they did not wipe anything clean for the hard liners firstly the ones of the gcs who wanted turks to go home to turkey and the turkish cypriots who wanted takism so you still have a lot of unhappy people. maybe the gcs did not trust the tcs seing as they did plant bombs and let the tc people think it was gcs... just as you say you cannot trust the gc people now, maybe the gcs could not trust the tcs then. but it happened and because of that bomb the fighting spread. im not trying to blame it all on tcs but if the bomb was not set would the fight of spread? would tcs of looted gcs buildings? would eoka counter attacked? (not that there would of been anything to counter attack)

would the hard liner gcs still killed many tcs to try unite with greece? i think nothing will ever be forgotten just like any agreement now will NEVER make any tcs forget 1963 .. or will it. if we both agree on a solution tomorrow and your very happy with the terms the tc side and the gc side very happy.. will that make you suddenly forget the tcs that the gcs killed?

it would be nice to put it all behind us 63 74 all the dates. a fresh start is what we all need. and talat is doing a good job sending people away from trnc.. good for their economy and in the end it would be good for ours if we ever united as one.


u the one always keep repeating same arguments all the time Palio just blaming all the time one side . we all suffered in this island . It is not the only Turkey's or Turkish cypriots caused everything in Cyprus.

Yes u are right we must put back the 63 and 74 and look forward. How we can do it ? How we can trust each other ? From where we can start ?
we must find common will ? to find common will always goes with good communication and good understanding. How we can share equaly our future in this island.I said equally not on the minority and majority basis.
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Postby paliometoxo » Sat Mar 20, 2010 1:06 am

no halil i did say i am not trying to blame only the tcs. we are both to blame and every one knows this

im not trying to blame it all on tcs


we can start with both sides taking a big leap of faith of good will, maybe tc side removing the huge flags on the mountains.. and the gcs remove all greek ones in the south or something bigger
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Postby apc2010 » Sat Mar 20, 2010 1:12 am

Get Real! wrote:This thread is a total waste of time as it makes no difference whatsoever who wins.

Not often i agree with you ,but this is true, who wins ..mickey or pluto???
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Postby halil » Sat Mar 20, 2010 1:25 am

paliometoxo wrote:no halil i did say i am not trying to blame only the tcs. we are both to blame and every one knows this

im not trying to blame it all on tcs


we can start with both sides taking a big leap of faith of good will, maybe tc side removing the huge flags on the mountains.. and the gcs remove all greek ones in the south or something bigger


Palio,

I can recommend u to listen and watch the videos which i gave at topic called Cyprus 2015.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Mar 20, 2010 1:30 am

Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:The only way we can ever unite is using a BBF solution with political equality of the 2 sides as backed by the UN thats the only we will ever trust you again.

Sounds good for you but we can NEVER trust you full stop!


I dont have a problem with that, ask for security.
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