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[Tim Drayton]

where did u get those results Deniz ?

nothing is clear yet !

who ever wins, it will win with few points.

Someone who works for LTR posted them on Facebook two days ago. I wish I never posted them. It seems Yfred and Kiks are going to declare war on each other. I too am wondering whatever happened to the 'missing' third candidate. I was just glad to see Talat ahead by a mile.

Deniz too many polls around.

have a look at the poll goes on Yenidüzen paper today. Which is the CTP news organ. u can see it from below link Deniz.
http://www.yeniduzen.com/anasayfa.asp

and results in here :

hangi adaya oy vereceksiniz? ( which candidate u will vote)

Mehmet Ali Talat( 41%)
Derviş Eroğlu( 20%)
Tahsin Ertuğruloğlu( 21%)
Zeki Beşiktepeli( 2%)
Arif Salih Kırdağ( 1%)
Mustafa Kemal Tümkan( 0%)
Ayhan Kaymak( 2%)
Karar vermedim( 0%)(not decicided yet)
Sandığa gitmeyi düşünmüyorum( 9%)(i will not vote)

good luck to all candidates....

I voted for Talat.

by looking above voting we can say Talat leading as well but who are the voters, Yenidüzen voters comes first also who ever sees this poll can vote from the web ,from everywhere people can vote thats way we can not trust above poll also from face book voting too .

Halil, that is just a straw poll of Yeni Düzen readers, and this paper is very close to Talat's CTP. I am sure a poll of Daily Telegraph readers in the UK would reveal strong support for the Conservatives. One cannot read too much into it.

According to Afrika, Turkey's ruling AKP commissioned a poll before Ertuğruloğlu announced his candidacy, and this poll showed that Eroğlu was 13% ahead of Talat.

[halil]

where did u get those results Deniz ?

nothing is clear yet !

who ever wins, it will win with few points.

Someone who works for LTR posted them on Facebook two days ago. I wish I never posted them. It seems Yfred and Kiks are going to declare war on each other. I too am wondering whatever happened to the 'missing' third candidate. I was just glad to see Talat ahead by a mile.

Deniz too many polls around.

have a look at the poll goes on Yenidüzen paper today. Which is the CTP news organ. u can see it from below link Deniz.
http://www.yeniduzen.com/anasayfa.asp

and results in here :

hangi adaya oy vereceksiniz? ( which candidate u will vote)

Mehmet Ali Talat( 41%)
Derviş Eroğlu( 20%)
Tahsin Ertuğruloğlu( 21%)
Zeki Beşiktepeli( 2%)
Arif Salih Kırdağ( 1%)
Mustafa Kemal Tümkan( 0%)
Ayhan Kaymak( 2%)
Karar vermedim( 0%)(not decicided yet)
Sandığa gitmeyi düşünmüyorum( 9%)(i will not vote)

good luck to all candidates....

I voted for Talat.

by looking above voting we can say Talat leading as well but who are the voters, Yenidüzen voters comes first also who ever sees this poll can vote from the web ,from everywhere people can vote thats way we can not trust above poll also from face book voting too .

Halil, that is just a straw poll of Yeni Düzen readers, and this paper is very close to Talat's CTP. I am sure a poll of Daily Telegraph readers in the UK would reveal strong support for the Conservatives. One cannot read too much into it.

According to Afrika, Turkey's ruling AKP commissioned a poll before Ertuğruloğlu announced his candidacy, and this poll showed that Eroğlu was 13% ahead of Talat.

Tim,

I didn't say above poll is correct. Nothing is clear yet. Even AKP poll wasn't clear as well . in two weeks time we might see the result better. let and see the political rally's and mitings.
also not all the time Afrika writes credible news.They are also side in these election with Besiktepeli. They are always opposing the Talat and every article they publishes in their paper helps to patriots to squeeze the Talat and CTP.

[Kikapu]

1) MEHMET ALİ TALAT: 61.96% (834 votes.)
2) DERVİŞ EROĞLU: 30.83% (415 votes.)
3) KARARSIZ(undecided): 3.79% (51 votes.)
4) DİĞER:others 3.42% (46 votes.)


Encouraging I'd say.

Perhaps it wont even make the slightest difference. Who knows?

It seems Kickapoo is talking crap again. This 3rd man is nowhere to be seen. Good god all these settlers and they are voting for Talat.
The old house of card ideas is tumbling down one by one.
Where are Bastardo25 and his gang tonight?

What Turkey wants, is what Turkey gets to be elected. TCs do not have a choice.!

What happened to all the voters who were for Eroglu for the last 6 months or so, with all that "our motherland Turkey" jargon all the time which would appeal to all the settlers. Well, the settlers listen to Turkey and not to the TCs or Eroglu.

This pole was probably conducted before the 3rd man came to light.!

YFred still doesn't get it.!

Who doesn't get it? You said this third person will take the votes. You must be joking. All TCs will voice their opinion when the time comes. I hope Talat wins and it has nothing to do with one member of the YFred clan getting another 5 years in the President's office.
You are an incredible person. You call yourself Democratic and when you see it in operation you don't even recognise it. TCs said what they wanted to when they voted for UBP, the UN and Erdogan and the Muhtaro X as well as UK have taken note.
Kicks baby you are crap. Now that's official coming from a VIP. So there.

But the poll was probably taken before the 3rd man came to light...Hello.!!

Secondly, The followers of the 3rd man may just vote for Talat instead of for the 3rd man himself, orders from Turkey, to avoid a run-off and to also give Talat a much wider victory which would give him a mandate. Turkey is orchestrating the whole puppet show, so just shut up and enjoy the show. I told you Talat was going to win almost 3 weeks ago and I'm correct in saying that. That's all you need to know.!

Don't talk crap, UBP people hate CTP they will not vote for Talat. You know nothing of the mentality of the members of each party. It is the wavierer that will switch because they have seen the light at the end of the tunnel and what a good job Talat is doing. TCs naturally would vote for CTP. It was Turkey's interference that always defeated them. All Turkey has to do is nothing and CTP will win.
Get a hold of reality man.

I can't add more to what you said, YFred, except to say, Turkey gets what Turkey wants in the north. Thanks for the confirmation.!

Amazing how quickly last years elections are forgotten.
Apparently,Turkey wanted CTP to win that as well.Then again,what do I know!!!

Well, it seems that you don't know, and will never know as long as you remain gullible to "Smoking Mirrors", "Bait and Switch" and "Good Guy, Bad Guy" politics so to serve Turkey's best interest. I'm not picking on you, because there are many on here who sees politics from what they are told as well as seeing politics in a "One Dimensional" view, much like what YFred does all the time, since he can barely see beyond his nose.

So lets go back to last years election in the north. It was very useful for Turkey to have Eroglu win so to instill fear into the GCs and the negotiations, that unless the GCs rushed to find a settlement in a hurry with Talat (The Good Guy) and give Talat (Turkey) what he wanted, there was going to be a leadership change with Eroglu ( The Bad Guy) who was not interested in finding a settlement and that he would instead go to that dreaded "Plan B" and "we have alternatives" to make the north a partitioned state as it is now without giving any land back. Eroglu was painted as this Big Bad Wolf (Grey ) who was going to huff and puff for partition and getting it. Well, needless to say, the GCs ignored all the Huffing and Puffing by Eroglu ( Turkey) so now it's time to bring Talat (The Good Guy) back because Eroglu spells disaster for Turkey's EU talks as well as he is an embarrassment for Turkey for him to become the Fascist Face of the "trnc". Turkey already got rid of another Fascist with Denktash, which served Turkey well at the time, but now, Turkey needs a good image in the north to be seen as supporting a "Good Guy" rather than be seen as supporting the "Bad Guy" in Eroglu.

I hope you have learned something, that what you see and read is not what always goes on behind the close doors of Politics.!

[Kikapu]

1) MEHMET ALİ TALAT: 61.96% (834 votes.)
2) DERVİŞ EROĞLU: 30.83% (415 votes.)
3) KARARSIZ(undecided): 3.79% (51 votes.)
4) DİĞER:others 3.42% (46 votes.)


Encouraging I'd say.

Perhaps it wont even make the slightest difference. Who knows?

It seems Kickapoo is talking crap again. This 3rd man is nowhere to be seen. Good god all these settlers and they are voting for Talat.
The old house of card ideas is tumbling down one by one.
Where are Bastardo25 and his gang tonight?

What Turkey wants, is what Turkey gets to be elected. TCs do not have a choice.!

What happened to all the voters who were for Eroglu for the last 6 months or so, with all that "our motherland Turkey" jargon all the time which would appeal to all the settlers. Well, the settlers listen to Turkey and not to the TCs or Eroglu.

This pole was probably conducted before the 3rd man came to light.!

YFred still doesn't get it.!

Who doesn't get it? You said this third person will take the votes. You must be joking. All TCs will voice their opinion when the time comes. I hope Talat wins and it has nothing to do with one member of the YFred clan getting another 5 years in the President's office.
You are an incredible person. You call yourself Democratic and when you see it in operation you don't even recognise it. TCs said what they wanted to when they voted for UBP, the UN and Erdogan and the Muhtaro X as well as UK have taken note.
Kicks baby you are crap. Now that's official coming from a VIP. So there.

But the poll was probably taken before the 3rd man came to light...Hello.!!

Secondly, The followers of the 3rd man may just vote for Talat instead of for the 3rd man himself, orders from Turkey, to avoid a run-off and to also give Talat a much wider victory which would give him a mandate. Turkey is orchestrating the whole puppet show, so just shut up and enjoy the show. I told you Talat was going to win almost 3 weeks ago and I'm correct in saying that. That's all you need to know.!

Don't talk crap, UBP people hate CTP they will not vote for Talat. You know nothing of the mentality of the members of each party. It is the wavierer that will switch because they have seen the light at the end of the tunnel and what a good job Talat is doing. TCs naturally would vote for CTP. It was Turkey's interference that always defeated them. All Turkey has to do is nothing and CTP will win.
Get a hold of reality man.

I can't add more to what you said, YFred, except to say, Turkey gets what Turkey wants in the north. Thanks for the confirmation.!

Amazing how quickly last years elections are forgotten.
Apparently,Turkey wanted CTP to win that as well.Then again,what do I know!!!

That was TCs telling the rest of the world inc Turkey and GCs to fuck off if you pardon my french. Turkey did not want CTP to win the the previous elections either, so TCs have gone against Turkey's wishes twice know. Perhaps it will be 3rd time lucky and Kicks bay will see the light and how strong the TCs are politically.
But Kickapoo only understands one type type of democracy where what ever he says goes. It's not easy suffering from OCD and superiority complex at the same time. It's like a peace of dynamite stuck up his arse.
Dr YFred says double the dose Agha Pasha.
Sorry Deniz, but I caint keep it no more.

The mistake you make all the time, YFred, is that you think the north is a Democracy.!!

[YFred]

1) MEHMET ALİ TALAT: 61.96% (834 votes.)
2) DERVİŞ EROĞLU: 30.83% (415 votes.)
3) KARARSIZ(undecided): 3.79% (51 votes.)
4) DİĞER:others 3.42% (46 votes.)


Encouraging I'd say.

Perhaps it wont even make the slightest difference. Who knows?

It seems Kickapoo is talking crap again. This 3rd man is nowhere to be seen. Good god all these settlers and they are voting for Talat.
The old house of card ideas is tumbling down one by one.
Where are Bastardo25 and his gang tonight?

What Turkey wants, is what Turkey gets to be elected. TCs do not have a choice.!

What happened to all the voters who were for Eroglu for the last 6 months or so, with all that "our motherland Turkey" jargon all the time which would appeal to all the settlers. Well, the settlers listen to Turkey and not to the TCs or Eroglu.

This pole was probably conducted before the 3rd man came to light.!

YFred still doesn't get it.!

Who doesn't get it? You said this third person will take the votes. You must be joking. All TCs will voice their opinion when the time comes. I hope Talat wins and it has nothing to do with one member of the YFred clan getting another 5 years in the President's office.
You are an incredible person. You call yourself Democratic and when you see it in operation you don't even recognise it. TCs said what they wanted to when they voted for UBP, the UN and Erdogan and the Muhtaro X as well as UK have taken note.
Kicks baby you are crap. Now that's official coming from a VIP. So there.

But the poll was probably taken before the 3rd man came to light...Hello.!!

Secondly, The followers of the 3rd man may just vote for Talat instead of for the 3rd man himself, orders from Turkey, to avoid a run-off and to also give Talat a much wider victory which would give him a mandate. Turkey is orchestrating the whole puppet show, so just shut up and enjoy the show. I told you Talat was going to win almost 3 weeks ago and I'm correct in saying that. That's all you need to know.!

Don't talk crap, UBP people hate CTP they will not vote for Talat. You know nothing of the mentality of the members of each party. It is the wavierer that will switch because they have seen the light at the end of the tunnel and what a good job Talat is doing. TCs naturally would vote for CTP. It was Turkey's interference that always defeated them. All Turkey has to do is nothing and CTP will win.
Get a hold of reality man.

I can't add more to what you said, YFred, except to say, Turkey gets what Turkey wants in the north. Thanks for the confirmation.!

Amazing how quickly last years elections are forgotten.
Apparently,Turkey wanted CTP to win that as well.Then again,what do I know!!!

That was TCs telling the rest of the world inc Turkey and GCs to fuck off if you pardon my french. Turkey did not want CTP to win the the previous elections either, so TCs have gone against Turkey's wishes twice know. Perhaps it will be 3rd time lucky and Kicks bay will see the light and how strong the TCs are politically.
But Kickapoo only understands one type type of democracy where what ever he says goes. It's not easy suffering from OCD and superiority complex at the same time. It's like a peace of dynamite stuck up his arse.
Dr YFred says double the dose Agha Pasha.
Sorry Deniz, but I caint keep it no more.

The mistake you make all the time, YFred, is that you think the north is a Democracy.!!

No Kickapoo, the mistake you make is that True Democracy exists anywhere in the world.
1. They are all 5 year dictatorships
2. The one with most money to spend and corrupt wins.

Why go for the unachievable? I live in the real world and you live in yours.
Eyvallah?

[umit07]

1) MEHMET ALİ TALAT: 61.96% (834 votes.)
2) DERVİŞ EROĞLU: 30.83% (415 votes.)
3) KARARSIZ(undecided): 3.79% (51 votes.)
4) DİĞER:others 3.42% (46 votes.)


Encouraging I'd say.

Perhaps it wont even make the slightest difference. Who knows?

Deniz, The only polls you should take seriously are the one's conducted by KADEM. In the most recent poll by them before Tahsin Ertoruloglu was in the picture showed that Eroglu led by about 3%.

[denizaksulu]

1) MEHMET ALİ TALAT: 61.96% (834 votes.)
2) DERVİŞ EROĞLU: 30.83% (415 votes.)
3) KARARSIZ(undecided): 3.79% (51 votes.)
4) DİĞER:others 3.42% (46 votes.)


Encouraging I'd say.

Perhaps it wont even make the slightest difference. Who knows?

Deniz, The only polls you should take seriously are the one's conducted by KADEM. In the most recent poll by them before Tahsin Ertoruloglu was in the picture showed that Eroglu led by about 3%.

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[umit07]

[denizaksulu]

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I have loved this song since my childhood. I'd say it has moulded my musical pleasure. Give me Lachrymals, melancholic songs/music anytime.

[umit07]

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I have loved this song since my childhood. I'd say it has moulded my musical pleasure. Give me Lachrymals, melancholic songs/music anytime.

My old man likes to listen to Turk Sanat muzigi, he'd quite often sing along. I used to resent listening to this sort of stuff but now I am beginning to appreciate it a little.

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