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Joint statement on the agreed points so far.

Postby YFred » Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:20 pm

Why are GC administration partners against a joint statement pointing out what has been agreed so far?
Have the leadership lost all their senses? What have they got to loose by announcing what has been agreed. AT least it will revitalise this forum to show our bash patriot sheepriots how wrong they have been.
Especially after the decision on Orams’ case and then followed by the bombshell of ECHR recognising IPC which quite soon will lead to the biggest bombshell to be dropped by the UN which will drive our sheepriot patriots on the forum suicidal.

Deniz lets buy all the Prozac available on the market, we’ll make a killing.
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Re: Joint statement on the agreed points so far.

Postby vaughanwilliams » Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:29 pm

YFred wrote:Why are GC administration partners against a joint statement pointing out what has been agreed so far?
Have the leadership lost all their senses? What have they got to loose by announcing what has been agreed. AT least it will revitalise this forum to show our bash patriot sheepriots how wrong they have been.
Especially after the decision on Orams’ case and then followed by the bombshell of ECHR recognising IPC which quite soon will lead to the biggest bombshell to be dropped by the UN which will drive our sheepriot patriots on the forum suicidal.

Deniz lets buy all the Prozac available on the market, we’ll make a killing.


What might that be?
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Re: Joint statement on the agreed points so far.

Postby wallace » Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:34 pm

YFred wrote:Why are GC administration partners against a joint statement pointing out what has been agreed so far?
Have the leadership lost all their senses? What have they got to loose by announcing what has been agreed. AT least it will revitalise this forum to show our bash patriot sheepriots how wrong they have been.
Especially after the decision on Orams’ case and then followed by the bombshell of ECHR recognising IPC which quite soon will lead to the biggest bombshell to be dropped by the UN which will drive our sheepriot patriots on the forum suicidal.

Deniz lets buy all the Prozac available on the market, we’ll make a killing.


The statement will be....nothing is agreed untill everything is agreed :lol:
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Re: Joint statement on the agreed points so far.

Postby YFred » Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:38 pm

vaughanwilliams wrote:
YFred wrote:Why are GC administration partners against a joint statement pointing out what has been agreed so far?
Have the leadership lost all their senses? What have they got to loose by announcing what has been agreed. AT least it will revitalise this forum to show our bash patriot sheepriots how wrong they have been.
Especially after the decision on Orams’ case and then followed by the bombshell of ECHR recognising IPC which quite soon will lead to the biggest bombshell to be dropped by the UN which will drive our sheepriot patriots on the forum suicidal.

Deniz lets buy all the Prozac available on the market, we’ll make a killing.


What might that be?

Come now Mr VW, don't be so mischievous, we need our bash patriots to recover from the last one before the next one may be announced otherwise they may be pushed over the edge, pushdui patriots that they are. I am begining to feel sorry for them now.
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Re: Joint statement on the agreed points so far.

Postby YFred » Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:40 pm

wallace wrote:
YFred wrote:Why are GC administration partners against a joint statement pointing out what has been agreed so far?
Have the leadership lost all their senses? What have they got to loose by announcing what has been agreed. AT least it will revitalise this forum to show our bash patriot sheepriots how wrong they have been.
Especially after the decision on Orams’ case and then followed by the bombshell of ECHR recognising IPC which quite soon will lead to the biggest bombshell to be dropped by the UN which will drive our sheepriot patriots on the forum suicidal.

Deniz lets buy all the Prozac available on the market, we’ll make a killing.


The statement will be....nothing is agreed untill everything is agreed :lol:

Vi shel si as my German friend used to say. :lol: :lol:
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Postby Gasman » Thu Mar 18, 2010 1:43 pm

I get the impression that Christofias hasn't so far got anything to say about (regarding any matters of real importance) about anything that has been 'agreed' to the satisfaction of both the TRNC and the GCs, so is hardly likely to say anything sooner than he has to.

I just cannot see it any other way than if he agrees to anything the TRNC side will be happy with, it will greatly displease the GCs. And, probably, vice versa.

As it all has to go to referendum anyway I sometimes wonder what the point of the 'talks' are at all. Why not just ask the people? It would be quicker - and the result could probably be reliably predicted (if the opposing views expressed in places like this are anything to go by).

The ECHR decision has, to my mind, made it clear that there are some things that can and will be 'imposed' on one or other side, whether they like it or not. Makes me wonder just how much or how many decisions will end up 'being imposed' if, as seems to be the case, they just cannot, or cannot show themselves to be capable of 'sorting it out themselves'.

People will come to realise that all the clamouring to get into the EU 'club' and the rejoicing at being allowed in does not just result in lots of 'handouts' and 'back up' from the other members - it does also result in them having to abide by a lot of laws and decisions made centrally.
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Postby YFred » Thu Mar 18, 2010 2:07 pm

Gasman wrote:I get the impression that Christofias hasn't so far got anything to say about (regarding any matters of real importance) about anything that has been 'agreed' to the satisfaction of both the TRNC and the GCs, so is hardly likely to say anything sooner than he has to.

I just cannot see it any other way than if he agrees to anything the TRNC side will be happy with, it will greatly displease the GCs. And, probably, vice versa.

As it all has to go to referendum anyway I sometimes wonder what the point of the 'talks' are at all. Why not just ask the people? It would be quicker - and the result could probably be reliably predicted (if the opposing views expressed in places like this are anything to go by).

The ECHR decision has, to my mind, made it clear that there are some things that can and will be 'imposed' on one or other side, whether they like it or not. Makes me wonder just how much or how many decisions will end up 'being imposed' if, as seems to be the case, they just cannot, or cannot show themselves to be capable of 'sorting it out themselves'.

People will come to realise that all the clamouring to get into the EU 'club' and the rejoicing at being allowed in does not just result in lots of 'handouts' and 'back up' from the other members - it does also result in them having to abide by a lot of laws and decisions made centrally.

After such a long discussion if they have not agreed on anything, then they should pack up and go home. I suspect not, otherwise UN would not ask for such a statement if there was no agreement. Just because it favours one side or the other is not a good enough reason not make statement.
What is even more amazing is the fact that even UN is siding with Talat rather then Eroglu. And there was my patriot GC friends and Kicks baby thinking that It did not matter as Turkey was in control in the north.
What ever next?
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Postby paliometoxo » Thu Mar 18, 2010 3:01 pm

Gasman wrote:I get the impression that Christofias hasn't so far got anything to say about (regarding any matters of real importance) about anything that has been 'agreed' to the satisfaction of both the TRNC and the GCs, so is hardly likely to say anything sooner than he has to.

I just cannot see it any other way than if he agrees to anything the TRNC side will be happy with, it will greatly displease the GCs. And, probably, vice versa.

As it all has to go to referendum anyway I sometimes wonder what the point of the 'talks' are at all. Why not just ask the people? It would be quicker - and the result could probably be reliably predicted (if the opposing views expressed in places like this are anything to go by).

The ECHR decision has, to my mind, made it clear that there are some things that can and will be 'imposed' on one or other side, whether they like it or not. Makes me wonder just how much or how many decisions will end up 'being imposed' if, as seems to be the case, they just cannot, or cannot show themselves to be capable of 'sorting it out themselves'.

People will come to realise that all the clamouring to get into the EU 'club' and the rejoicing at being allowed in does not just result in lots of 'handouts' and 'back up' from the other members - it does also result in them having to abide by a lot of laws and decisions made centrally.



lets hope this time when it goes to a vote it wont be heavily in favour of the turkish side again like a pro turkish plan like the bannana one was
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Postby CBBB » Thu Mar 18, 2010 4:06 pm

The requests for a joint statement are being made in order to boost Talat's chances at the pseudo-elections (I put the pseudo in so I don't get bollocked!).

I think their will eventually be a joint statement about progress, but only after Christophias gets some concessions out of Talat. You know it makes sense!
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Postby YFred » Thu Mar 18, 2010 4:15 pm

CBBB wrote:The requests for a joint statement are being made in order to boost Talat's chances at the pseudo-elections (I put the pseudo in so I don't get bollocked!).

I think their will eventually be a joint statement about progress, but only after Christophias gets some concessions out of Talat. You know it makes sense!

Why are they so bothered about Eroglu?
What difference does it make who wins?
After all Turkey is in control of the north, is she not?
Have we been fed bullshit all this time from Kicks baby about who is in control in the north?
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