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Joint statement on the agreed points so far.

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Postby Kikapu » Mon Mar 22, 2010 11:27 pm

YFred wrote:Talking of de-railing every thread can we have his highnesses opinion on Muhtaro X not wanting to make a joint statement regarding agreement so far?
If you please Ağa bey, just to save me looking for it you understand.


Kikapu wrote:There is a very good reason as to why Christofias does not want to give a joint statement on what has been agreed on so far, BECAUSE, it seems like what has been agreed to mostly has to do with power sharing, the rotating presidency and BBF concept, and from what the GCs see it, they see it all this as their compromise for a solution and yet nothing from the TC side for their compromise on property, settlers, and land adjustment, troops, Turkey's guarantees and so on, therefore, if a joint statement is given now, the TCs and the world will accept the GCs compromise as being set in stone and nothing from the other side, so, in the event the talks break off and another one starts in the future, everyone will expect the negotiations to start from what the GCs already agreed on, which will give the TCs the upper hand. No, I agree with Christofias, when everything is agreed on, good or bad, then let everyone show their hands.!
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Postby DTA » Mon Mar 22, 2010 11:40 pm

Kikapu wrote:
DTA wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
DTA wrote:I would be interested in that answer as wel

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he cant answer and will continue to throw up crap in order to change the subject.



The subject of this thread is "Joint statement" by the leaders and not about me, so it is you who wants to change the subject by injecting crap.

Do not confuse my opposition to Fascist NeoPartitionist like yourself to the TCs viewpoint. You are not an elected official, therefore you ONLY speak for yourself, as we all do with our own opinions. As a TC, how can I be "Anti TC". That is the most moronic statement if I ever heard of one. Am I Anti Fascist NeoPartitonist, no matter whom they may be, you better believe it.!

If you want to discuss me and not the topic of this thread, then gather all your other Fascist NeoPartitionist friends and open a thread in the General section and have a good time.! :lol:


How do you know I am not an elected official and yes Id rather discuss on this thread why you are anti-TC? answer the question everyone can see you are biased and your views are totally one sided not once have you said anything remotely in favor of the TCs or against the GCs tell us all why???


If you are a elected official, you can only be for the Fascist NeoPartitonist Party, therefore I will oppose you at every turn. So, tell us which political party you are elected to if you want us to believe you are elected to anything.

I'm willing to accept anything TC as long as it does not violate Cypriots Democratic, Human Rights and International Laws, which you yourself can't find one for me to support. The decent TCs are helpless in the hands of Fascists like yourself in the north. I'm certain they welcome all my points of views that opposes Fascist NeoPartitionist like yourself and all your Fascist friends.

Now, tell me why my original post couple of days ago pissed you off so much.? You don't think I'm the only person who knows as to why Christofias does not want to hold a "joint statement" for the reasons I've stated, do you.? If you want to talk about the topic of this thread, I'm willing, but if you want to talk about me, then go and open another thread in the General Section, because I don't have time to waste with your bullshit.!


Kikapu with out making this personal... and this is not an attack so please dont take it as such, but how many TCs on this forum do you think view you as anything other then anti TC?


It is non of my business how other TCs view me as or my views. If some TCs do not like what I have to say, they will find every reason under the sun to justify what they do not want to hear. How can any Fascist NeoPartitionist can feel good about anything that I throw at them, pointing out what they stand for, which are violation of other Cypriots Democratic, Human Rights and International Laws. Well, they don't, so they want to then "shoot" the messenger, just because the message is too hard for them to swallow, that's all. Fascism is a mental illness, just remember that. They are irrational people and all means are justifiable to them just so to reach their end at all cost. What did you think Fascism was DTA.?? Not a Picnic Party, I hope.!!


That is not the question that I asked you have berrated people on this thread for not answering your question so can answer mine?
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Postby Kikapu » Mon Mar 22, 2010 11:43 pm

YFred wrote:
When your cowboy friend says may all TCs burn in hell, does it bother you?


"Nasrettin Hoca" was told by his friend that another man was fucking his wife and that he should feel ashamed, in which the Hoca put his hand on his ass and said to his friend, "my ass is not fucked by another man, so why should I be the one who should be ashamed. Let her be the one to feel ashamed."!
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Postby DTA » Mon Mar 22, 2010 11:43 pm

YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
DTA wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
DTA wrote:I would be interested in that answer as wel

l kikapu


he cant answer and will continue to throw up crap in order to change the subject.



The subject of this thread is "Joint statement" by the leaders and not about me, so it is you who wants to change the subject by injecting crap.

Do not confuse my opposition to Fascist NeoPartitionist like yourself to the TCs viewpoint. You are not an elected official, therefore you ONLY speak for yourself, as we all do with our own opinions. As a TC, how can I be "Anti TC". That is the most moronic statement if I ever heard of one. Am I Anti Fascist NeoPartitonist, no matter whom they may be, you better believe it.!

If you want to discuss me and not the topic of this thread, then gather all your other Fascist NeoPartitionist friends and open a thread in the General section and have a good time.! :lol:


How do you know I am not an elected official and yes Id rather discuss on this thread why you are anti-TC? answer the question everyone can see you are biased and your views are totally one sided not once have you said anything remotely in favor of the TCs or against the GCs tell us all why???


If you are a elected official, you can only be for the Fascist NeoPartitonist Party, therefore I will oppose you at every turn. So, tell us which political party you are elected to if you want us to believe you are elected to anything.

I'm willing to accept anything TC as long as it does not violate Cypriots Democratic, Human Rights and International Laws, which you yourself can't find one for me to support. The decent TCs are helpless in the hands of Fascists like yourself in the north. I'm certain they welcome all my points of views that opposes Fascist NeoPartitionist like yourself and all your Fascist friends.

Now, tell me why my original post couple of days ago pissed you off so much.? You don't think I'm the only person who knows as to why Christofias does not want to hold a "joint statement" for the reasons I've stated, do you.? If you want to talk about the topic of this thread, I'm willing, but if you want to talk about me, then go and open another thread in the General Section, because I don't have time to waste with your bullshit.!


Kikapu with out making this personal... and this is not an attack so please dont take it as such, but how many TCs on this forum do you think view you as anything other then anti TC?


It is non of my business how other TCs view me as or my views. If some TCs do not like what I have to say, they will find every reason under the sun to justify what they do not want to hear. How can any Fascist NeoPartitionist can feel good about anything that I throw at them, pointing out what they stand for, which are violation of other Cypriots Democratic, Human Rights and International Laws. Well, they don't, so they want to then "shoot" the messenger, just because the message is too hard for them to swallow, that's all. Fascism is a mental illness, just remember that. They are irrational people and all means are justifiable to them just so to reach their end at all cost. What did you think Fascism was DTA.?? Not a Picnic Party, I hope.!!

When your cowboy friend says may all TCs burn in hell, does it bother you?


And this is my problem with kikapu, it is the fact that he finds no occasion to condemn GC if they display blatantly fascist views (that he claims to oppose)
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Postby Kikapu » Mon Mar 22, 2010 11:50 pm

DTA wrote:
YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
DTA wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
DTA wrote:I would be interested in that answer as wel

l kikapu


he cant answer and will continue to throw up crap in order to change the subject.



The subject of this thread is "Joint statement" by the leaders and not about me, so it is you who wants to change the subject by injecting crap.

Do not confuse my opposition to Fascist NeoPartitionist like yourself to the TCs viewpoint. You are not an elected official, therefore you ONLY speak for yourself, as we all do with our own opinions. As a TC, how can I be "Anti TC". That is the most moronic statement if I ever heard of one. Am I Anti Fascist NeoPartitonist, no matter whom they may be, you better believe it.!

If you want to discuss me and not the topic of this thread, then gather all your other Fascist NeoPartitionist friends and open a thread in the General section and have a good time.! :lol:


How do you know I am not an elected official and yes Id rather discuss on this thread why you are anti-TC? answer the question everyone can see you are biased and your views are totally one sided not once have you said anything remotely in favor of the TCs or against the GCs tell us all why???


If you are a elected official, you can only be for the Fascist NeoPartitonist Party, therefore I will oppose you at every turn. So, tell us which political party you are elected to if you want us to believe you are elected to anything.

I'm willing to accept anything TC as long as it does not violate Cypriots Democratic, Human Rights and International Laws, which you yourself can't find one for me to support. The decent TCs are helpless in the hands of Fascists like yourself in the north. I'm certain they welcome all my points of views that opposes Fascist NeoPartitionist like yourself and all your Fascist friends.

Now, tell me why my original post couple of days ago pissed you off so much.? You don't think I'm the only person who knows as to why Christofias does not want to hold a "joint statement" for the reasons I've stated, do you.? If you want to talk about the topic of this thread, I'm willing, but if you want to talk about me, then go and open another thread in the General Section, because I don't have time to waste with your bullshit.!


Kikapu with out making this personal... and this is not an attack so please dont take it as such, but how many TCs on this forum do you think view you as anything other then anti TC?


It is non of my business how other TCs view me as or my views. If some TCs do not like what I have to say, they will find every reason under the sun to justify what they do not want to hear. How can any Fascist NeoPartitionist can feel good about anything that I throw at them, pointing out what they stand for, which are violation of other Cypriots Democratic, Human Rights and International Laws. Well, they don't, so they want to then "shoot" the messenger, just because the message is too hard for them to swallow, that's all. Fascism is a mental illness, just remember that. They are irrational people and all means are justifiable to them just so to reach their end at all cost. What did you think Fascism was DTA.?? Not a Picnic Party, I hope.!!

When your cowboy friend says may all TCs burn in hell, does it bother you?


And this is my problem with kikapu, it is the fact that he finds no occasion to condemn GC if they display blatantly fascist views (that he claims to oppose)


I care what is said by my own community more than what others say. If you see me support such views expressed by the GCs, then you have the right to complain. I'll let people like Bananiot to deal with his own community in what they say which is more effective than if I as a TC complained.. You are not also justifying what the Fascist NeoPartitionist are saying that are violating other Cypriots Democratic and Human Rights, are you DTA:???
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Mar 22, 2010 11:56 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
DTA wrote:I would be interested in that answer as wel

l kikapu


he cant answer and will continue to throw up crap in order to change the subject.



The subject of this thread is "Joint statement" by the leaders and not about me, so it is you who wants to change the subject by injecting crap.

Do not confuse my opposition to Fascist NeoPartitionist like yourself to the TCs viewpoint. You are not an elected official, therefore you ONLY speak for yourself, as we all do with our own opinions. As a TC, how can I be "Anti TC". That is the most moronic statement if I ever heard of one. Am I Anti Fascist NeoPartitonist, no matter whom they may be, you better believe it.!

If you want to discuss me and not the topic of this thread, then gather all your other Fascist NeoPartitionist friends and open a thread in the General section and have a good time.! :lol:


How do you know I am not an elected official and yes Id rather discuss on this thread why you are anti-TC? answer the question everyone can see you are biased and your views are totally one sided not once have you said anything remotely in favor of the TCs or against the GCs tell us all why???


If you are a elected official, you can only be for the Fascist NeoPartitonist Party, therefore I will oppose you at every turn. So, tell us which political party you are elected to if you want us to believe you are elected to anything.

I'm willing to accept anything TC as long as it does not violate Cypriots Democratic, Human Rights and International Laws, which you yourself can't find one for me to support. The decent TCs are helpless in the hands of Fascists like yourself in the north. I'm certain they welcome all my points of views that opposes Fascist NeoPartitionist like yourself and all your Fascist friends.

Now, tell me why my original post couple of days ago pissed you off so much.? You don't think I'm the only person who knows as to why Christofias does not want to hold a "joint statement" for the reasons I've stated, do you.? If you want to talk about the topic of this thread, I'm willing, but if you want to talk about me, then go and open another thread in the General Section, because I don't have time to waste with your bullshit.!


Any crediblity you had left has just gone out of the window, try answering the question your tactics will not work with me. Im sure all Tcs would like to know why you are so one sided, I dont see any Tcs supporting your stance which is 100% in line with GCs.
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Mar 22, 2010 11:59 pm

paliometoxo wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
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Viewpoint wrote:Visiting each others side is not the same as sharing a country where we have to place our future in your hands and hope for the best we could do that today by moving south but we dont because we do not feel we belong in a gc state.


and we dont feel we belong in a coountry that we where forced to split it in two and make another state by force to accept the rape murder by the turks and make it all legal..


And I dont want to force to belong to such a country yet you want to force me, why?


so why should i be forced to accept your ways ? it goes both ways neither tcs or gcs should be FORCED this does not help and is not a solution to the cy problem which is obviously why america and the other countries dont force turkey to leave or recognise the trnc without both tc and gc ok..

forcing the cypriots to do anything will never work.. that includes forcing us to accept your state .


Then we will always have the current status quo as you cannot see that you have to share this island we tried the mixed together and it didnt work yet you want to force me backwards whereas the last 36 years has brought a peaceful exsistence therefore a BBF with political equality is the only way we live together without forced against you will. Allow everyone the opportunity to live anywhere they wish be it the north or south accepting the administration of that state, why do you demand the whole island becomes a GC state with us as just another minority?
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Mar 23, 2010 12:02 am

Kikapu why are you again avoiding DTA question how many TCs do support your views?
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Postby runaway » Tue Mar 23, 2010 12:17 am

Viewpoint wrote:Kikapu why are you again avoiding DTA question how many TCs do support your views?


Silence says a lot. Leave the rum alone.
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Postby YFred » Tue Mar 23, 2010 12:30 am

Kikapu wrote:
DTA wrote:
YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
DTA wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
DTA wrote:I would be interested in that answer as wel

l kikapu


he cant answer and will continue to throw up crap in order to change the subject.



The subject of this thread is "Joint statement" by the leaders and not about me, so it is you who wants to change the subject by injecting crap.

Do not confuse my opposition to Fascist NeoPartitionist like yourself to the TCs viewpoint. You are not an elected official, therefore you ONLY speak for yourself, as we all do with our own opinions. As a TC, how can I be "Anti TC". That is the most moronic statement if I ever heard of one. Am I Anti Fascist NeoPartitonist, no matter whom they may be, you better believe it.!

If you want to discuss me and not the topic of this thread, then gather all your other Fascist NeoPartitionist friends and open a thread in the General section and have a good time.! :lol:


How do you know I am not an elected official and yes Id rather discuss on this thread why you are anti-TC? answer the question everyone can see you are biased and your views are totally one sided not once have you said anything remotely in favor of the TCs or against the GCs tell us all why???


If you are a elected official, you can only be for the Fascist NeoPartitonist Party, therefore I will oppose you at every turn. So, tell us which political party you are elected to if you want us to believe you are elected to anything.

I'm willing to accept anything TC as long as it does not violate Cypriots Democratic, Human Rights and International Laws, which you yourself can't find one for me to support. The decent TCs are helpless in the hands of Fascists like yourself in the north. I'm certain they welcome all my points of views that opposes Fascist NeoPartitionist like yourself and all your Fascist friends.

Now, tell me why my original post couple of days ago pissed you off so much.? You don't think I'm the only person who knows as to why Christofias does not want to hold a "joint statement" for the reasons I've stated, do you.? If you want to talk about the topic of this thread, I'm willing, but if you want to talk about me, then go and open another thread in the General Section, because I don't have time to waste with your bullshit.!


Kikapu with out making this personal... and this is not an attack so please dont take it as such, but how many TCs on this forum do you think view you as anything other then anti TC?


It is non of my business how other TCs view me as or my views. If some TCs do not like what I have to say, they will find every reason under the sun to justify what they do not want to hear. How can any Fascist NeoPartitionist can feel good about anything that I throw at them, pointing out what they stand for, which are violation of other Cypriots Democratic, Human Rights and International Laws. Well, they don't, so they want to then "shoot" the messenger, just because the message is too hard for them to swallow, that's all. Fascism is a mental illness, just remember that. They are irrational people and all means are justifiable to them just so to reach their end at all cost. What did you think Fascism was DTA.?? Not a Picnic Party, I hope.!!

When your cowboy friend says may all TCs burn in hell, does it bother you?


And this is my problem with kikapu, it is the fact that he finds no occasion to condemn GC if they display blatantly fascist views (that he claims to oppose)


I care what is said by my own community more than what others say. If you see me support such views expressed by the GCs, then you have the right to complain. I'll let people like Bananiot to deal with his own community in what they say which is more effective than if I as a TC complained.. You are not also justifying what the Fascist NeoPartitionist are saying that are violating other Cypriots Democratic and Human Rights, are you DTA:???

Your friendship with then in their other posts speaks volumes.
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