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[Me Ed]

I wish the two leaders could, but with the level of interference by Turkey its obvious what needs sorting out first.

That is the biggest cop-out ever.

What does Turkey have to do with:
Football matches played?
Any sporting event do TCs find huge lobbying initiatives to have them not participate?
Free trade between the north and EU?
etc.

Talk about abuse of rights.

Only a partitionist like you would view this as a cop-out.

In the mean time If it helps you sleep at night, keep the Turks for your security but removing the Turks from your affairs and decision making might just get the negotiations moving in the right direction.

[Acikgoz]

What on earth has a football match got to do with Turkey - only a sadist would view that as legitimate.

Funny that, us TCs are exactly there - Turkey for our security, TCs for our democracy.

[Me Ed]

What on earth has a football match got to do with Turkey - only a sadist would view that as legitimate.

Funny that, us TCs are exactly there - Turkey for our security, TCs for our democracy.

I don't think the embargos quite stretch to soccer balls, and thanks for representing Cyprus in the FIFI Wild Cup.

[DT.]

I wish the two leaders could, but with the level of interference by Turkey its obvious what needs sorting out first.

That is the biggest cop-out ever.

What does Turkey have to do with:
Football matches played?
Any sporting event do TCs find huge lobbying initiatives to have them not participate?
Free trade between the north and EU?
etc.

Talk about abuse of rights.

The only group of people that have proved beyond any doubt that they have mixed up sports with politics are the tc's. When UEFA gave everyone a way out by offering the TC's a separate recognised league but under the auspices of the recognised CFA member of UEFA, they refused saying they wanted something under the "trnc"

Your youth could be playing EUropean matches now were it not for this pipedream of recongition for Disneyland in the occupied areas of CYprus.

[Acikgoz]

WHO OBJECTED - NOT TURKEY GREEEEK CYPRIOTS.

Christofias does not represent TCs that is reality. Would a Greek Cypriot team play under the flag of Talat? No.

You see Ed, that isn't Turkey's fault, TCs have the GCs to thank for their continued oppression.

[paliometoxo]

WHO OBJECTED - NOT TURKEY GREEEEK CYPRIOTS.

Christofias does not represent TCs that is reality. Would a Greek Cypriot team play under the flag of Talat? No.

You see Ed, that isn't Turkey's fault, TCs have the GCs to thank for their continued oppression.

continud opression? by who? the turkish army.. roc is offering them jobs health care id cards passports anything they want, its turkey thats pushing them into a corner by demanding two states in cyprus and having 40 thousand army men with guns to our heads

all they have to do is remove the walls and troops. so you is it is turkeys fault. Gcs do not force the turks to sit there demanding their own state that no one wants to recognise. if america recognised trnc so would the rest of the world, Gcs do not force america to not recognise the north or any other country.

how does that equal to opression in your mind? because we wont allow a second state in our ( tc and gcs ) island and the turkification of the north and flood of mainland turks to even our numbers and even outnumber us? to have two states in cyprus a tc president in the south full use of our resources and control over us while we have NOTHING in the north no elected gc nothing?

it is the turks trying to opress us and have been doing so ever since they arrived in cyprus making christians turn muslim...

there is equality and then there is trying to take control. which turkey tries to do..

what we need in cyprus is no walls no id cards to pass from one side to the other no trnc no greek turkish flags no garantore powers, turkey has to at least be reasonable in their demands

[runaway]

You may not see the fuss about this law, but Cyprus aside, its laws like this that make Turkey's EU ascension problematic.

Its an indication of a particular mind-set that passes laws like this and if you read the BBC article, what is worse is the way in which the law was passed.

This should give you an insight in the type of perception Turkey gives to wider Europeans, let alone Cypriot citizens, particularly when Turks take the moral high ground when it comes to human rights.

With a slight change of attitude, Turkey could be in the EU in the next 5-10 years.

Doesn't Ireland and Italy have laws against human rights?

I don't know.

What I do know is that Turkey is not going to improve its HR record by pointing at other countries.

Ireland : ban of abortion
Unbelievable.

[Oracle]

You may not see the fuss about this law, but Cyprus aside, its laws like this that make Turkey's EU ascension problematic.

Its an indication of a particular mind-set that passes laws like this and if you read the BBC article, what is worse is the way in which the law was passed.

This should give you an insight in the type of perception Turkey gives to wider Europeans, let alone Cypriot citizens, particularly when Turks take the moral high ground when it comes to human rights.

With a slight change of attitude, Turkey could be in the EU in the next 5-10 years.

Doesn't Ireland and Italy have laws against human rights?

I don't know.

What I do know is that Turkey is not going to improve its HR record by pointing at other countries.

Ireland : ban of abortion
Unbelievable.

In Ireland the Human Rights of the foetus are respected as a Right to Life. In some respects this is advanced ethics. Women are not denied an abortion when necessary and it's certainly not illegal any more. This isn't a direct comparison with the prohibition towards artificial insemination in or out of Turkey, anyway.

[Me Ed]

I don't know why a small number of Turkish women choose to go abroad to get inseminated.

It would be easier and cheaper if they went to Bodrum for a weekend, where young Turkish bucks wander the resort like dogs and would literally shag anything - even 70 year old women.

That would also preseve the 'racial purity' that concerns the Turkish ministers.

[Oracle]

Because it's a strict Muslim country and those women would get stoned to death or buried alive.

Besides, why should they resort to copulating with those thugs?