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[YFred]

Bill, all well and good, but we will no doubt be interested in how the south deal with their claims by TCs. Timing will no doubt be kept of response as too will compensation.
Tax payers on both sides will be left lumbered with the costs, and of course lawyers' cut.

Mate, can only refer you to two things,

First the implication of the Sofi Settlement earlier this year which spells the end of the 6 month residency requirement in the near future. You will be aware of this and its implications. It's a Remedy that leads to RESTITUTION and not to compensation, cos the property rights of tissies in the Free Areas have never been in doubt. (Please don't waste our time by replying with the usual pollocks about Larnaca airport and refugee housing estates).

Second take a walk to the Tissy Information Centre, near the top end of Ledras, where you can get FREE advice at Mr Candounas's charitable expense of how to claim your property. You may even wish to engage his professional services through the Courts of the Republic, although it may soon be as easy as wandering up to the appropriate Land registry Office.

So it looks like, as usual, it's pretty easy at least for some of us to get our rights to property recognised and well nigh impossible for others.

Now how do you justify that mate??????

Dear Bill, please explain to us again why it is that we have to apply to the court with legal expenses to get what's ours from a legally recognised government again. How is that justified?
While you are at it, how does the said court justify putting them to one side on the grounds that they are TC claims and push them through when they are GC claims?
Please explain it to us one more time, I am having difficulty sleeping tonight.

[bill cobbett]

Bill, all well and good, but we will no doubt be interested in how the south deal with their claims by TCs. Timing will no doubt be kept of response as too will compensation.
Tax payers on both sides will be left lumbered with the costs, and of course lawyers' cut.

Mate, can only refer you to two things,

First the implication of the Sofi Settlement earlier this year which spells the end of the 6 month residency requirement in the near future. You will be aware of this and its implications. It's a Remedy that leads to RESTITUTION and not to compensation, cos the property rights of tissies in the Free Areas have never been in doubt. (Please don't waste our time by replying with the usual pollocks about Larnaca airport and refugee housing estates).

Second take a walk to the Tissy Information Centre, near the top end of Ledras, where you can get FREE advice at Mr Candounas's charitable expense of how to claim your property. You may even wish to engage his professional services through the Courts of the Republic, although it may soon be as easy as wandering up to the appropriate Land registry Office.

So it looks like, as usual, it's pretty easy at least for some of us to get our rights to property recognised and well nigh impossible for others.

Now how do you justify that mate??????

Dear Bill, please explain to us again why it is that we have to apply to the court with legal expenses to get what's ours from a legally recognised government again. How is that justified?
While you are at it, how does the said court justify putting them to one side on the grounds that they are TC claims and push them through when they are GC claims?
Please explain it to us one more time, I am having difficulty sleeping tonight.

That's not all that I said mate. Now stop squirming and read the bit where I say that shortly in the light of the Sofi Settlement you may even be able to simply wander down to the local Land Registry Department!!!!!!!

(Larnaca airport? Refugee estates? Highways on Tissy land? RoC Shipping using tissy land? No RoC Unemployment benefit for tissies? No RoC pensions for tissies? Stubbed your toe on an RoC pavement and want to make a claim?)

(Have put it in bold and large for stravous)

[Acikgoz]

The issue of timing taken and what is appropriate re the ECHR has been much discussed, the experiences of TCs in RoC courts have been hugely hindered by tardiness, lost documents etc.
As per usual, no one here is saying rights should not be pursued, however quality of action is not likely to be insisted as one sided. 6 years the Vroisa case has been pending, and that is for a village destroyed in 1963, currently no one living there and 6 years have passed and it is only now being seen.....

In addition, there is the issue of compensation. The taxpayers will have to decide if they want to shoulder the burden for the thousands of claims.

Simply modifying the stay time of 6 months required in south Cyprus will not be a panacea for the equal and opposite headache to be had by GCs over the property issue.

Side note: (not trying to make a point but simply curious) are you an agent for the law firms, or do you actually work for them? From your posts it is obvious you do a good job of drumming up business for their interests.

[B25]

Side note: (not trying to make a point but simply curious) are you an agent for the law firms, or do you actually work for them? From your posts it is obvious you do a good job of drumming up business for their interests.

May I ask you the same whilst we wait BC answer.

Side note: (not trying to make a point but simply curious) are you an agent for the Turkey, or do you actually work for her? From your posts it is obvious you do a good job of drumming up business for her interests and not that of Cyprus and the Cypriots.

[Acikgoz]

B25 - From my posts you can clearly see I react strongly when I see blatant hypocracy, I ask questions I know little about, I have only interest in providing understanding as a TC part of the Cypriot identity.
I am no lawyer, agent or anything in that capacity for Turkey or the TRNC.

I am just fed up with the idiocy that is often raised to keep TCs oppressed.

While waiting for Bill, how about you B25?

[Kikapu]

It is really not me that is sounding ridiculous it is you, I have made you look like a fool on other threads exposing your paper thin arguements and your myopic views, your unbalance and your dillusional mental state so now you are starting with insults - that is game you should not play and I very much doubt you would say that to my face,

I will give you two facts here:

1) A lawyer is duty bound to serve his clients to this best of his/her abilities
2) The oram's case was part of an "agreed" strategy that the GC lawyers (a group of elite) have been working on for many years (and I have that on great authority).

So your claim that they were just doing the best by their clients is as flawed as the majority of the claims I have seen from you thus far. But you keep it up with your mistaken belief that you 'freethinker' wear the black sheep badge, you have earned it, but for all the wrong reasons and more importantly not for the reasons that you think.

Because the person you are and the person that you think you are - from where I stand just do not match up.

1) A lawyer is duty bound to serve his clients to this best of his/her abilities

You were an idiot for not answering the question but rather injecting totally irrelevant shit. All you had to say was, was what you said above to answer my question. As for the rest of your comment, I've had bigger "fish" than you to try and take a bite off me, and they all ended up gumming their food then on, so stop trying stroking your own ego for something you did not accomplished. Perhaps you were stroking something else that got you all confused. !

[Acikgoz]

Kiki, you talking to me? Who you talking to?

[B25]

Kiki, you talking to me? Who you talking to?

He quoted DTA so I guess it is to him that he is speaking.

[DTA]

It is really not me that is sounding ridiculous it is you, I have made you look like a fool on other threads exposing your paper thin arguements and your myopic views, your unbalance and your dillusional mental state so now you are starting with insults - that is game you should not play and I very much doubt you would say that to my face,

I will give you two facts here:

1) A lawyer is duty bound to serve his clients to this best of his/her abilities
2) The oram's case was part of an "agreed" strategy that the GC lawyers (a group of elite) have been working on for many years (and I have that on great authority).

So your claim that they were just doing the best by their clients is as flawed as the majority of the claims I have seen from you thus far. But you keep it up with your mistaken belief that you 'freethinker' wear the black sheep badge, you have earned it, but for all the wrong reasons and more importantly not for the reasons that you think.

Because the person you are and the person that you think you are - from where I stand just do not match up.

1) A lawyer is duty bound to serve his clients to this best of his/her abilities

You were an idiot for not answering the question but rather injecting totally irrelevant shit. All you had to say was, was what you said above to answer my question. As for the rest of your comment, I've had bigger "fish" than you to try and take a bite off me, and they all ended up gumming their food then on, so stop trying stroking your own ego for something you did not accomplished. Perhaps you were stroking something else that got you all confused. !

Yada yada yada

You wrote a lot but you said very little of consequence. The fact that you believe what I wrote is:

totally irrelevant shit.

when it is in its essence completely central to the points being made. Proves my theory that you are either a complete idiot or on a massive wind up, either way you are waste of my time.

I've had bigger "fish" than you to try and take a bite off me, and they all ended up gumming their food then on, so stop trying stroking your own ego

Yeah it is me that is stroking my ego... lol

[bill cobbett]

B25 - From my posts you can clearly see I react strongly when I see blatant hypocracy, I ask questions I know little about, I have only interest in providing understanding as a TC part of the Cypriot identity.
I am no lawyer, agent or anything in that capacity for Turkey or the TRNC.

I am just fed up with the idiocy that is often raised to keep TCs oppressed.

While waiting for Bill, how about you B25?

Not really sure why waiting for me. ... but will say one or two things further...

Things will improve with the removal of the 6 month rule.
If they don't go to ECHR with a test case, and the RoC will back down as it did with Sofi.

No don't work for any lawyers or was that addressed to B25?

Now some of us are very happy for all tissies to get their prop rights respected, but fear some here would rather some of us didn't get ours back.

What's right for some, is right for all. Anyone not agree with this????. Are we going to help one another out with this?????